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Vengarr posted:For the last time, he's going to replace The Traitor™, who will inevitably be a dude so that the class' male-female ratio isn't disrupted This always struck me as the main argument against Hagakure being the traitor. Although it would be a moot point if there are new homeroom classes for the second year, since Class 1-B has 7 girls to 1-A's 6.
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i understand all the overhaul arc complaints but i'm rereading it for the first time and it legit owns being able to power through it. Mirio owns
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Jose posted:i understand all the overhaul arc complaints but i'm rereading it for the first time and it legit owns being able to power through it. Mirio owns
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Sep 8, 2018 22:59
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yea it still has pacing issues but being able to read the whole thing start to finish makes the flashbacks less aggravating. mirio's part of the raid is great but I wish he'd been introduced or foreshadowed earlier super saiyan deku will always be really goofy looking tho
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Sep 8, 2018 23:07
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i'm hoping SS Deku doesn't go so far as to have a hair color change and it's just his hair whipping around or even just changing a bit like all might's, since that's established as a thing that can happen
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Rouncer posted:She could potentially be an insanely good hero if she worked on one other aspect of her frogginess. Her mucous could potentially subdue villains with just a touch if she could learn to secrete muscle relaxants like what can be obtained from poison dart frogs. I honestly didn't know frogs could change color until I googled it. Some frog species can secrete Dermorphin, which is 40 times stronger than morphine, or super-strong adhesive (piss off, Mineta), not to mention the various poisons and hallucinogens they secrete. In conclusion, Froppy is potentially the most dangerous hero alive.
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Frogwoman is so much cooler of a hero concept than Spiderman ever was.
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In volume 20 who does Tokoyami say is going to be the character in volume 21?
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It is kind of weird how most of the anime thread are expecting Deku to crush Bakugo.
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that is the safe bet with your average shonen series tbf
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SKULL.GIF posted:Frogwoman is so much cooler of a hero concept than Spiderman ever was. He eats flies He lays eggs He's got way too many legs Look out, here comes the Spiderman
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Hunt11 posted:It is kind of weird how most of the anime thread are expecting Deku to crush Bakugo. Bakugo hasn't had a good chance to show off how kickin rad he is in the anime, has he? Although given how he just absolutely aced his perception and insight checks wrt Deku/All-Might, feel like people shouldn't be so quick to underestimate him. Especially in a 1-on-1 scenario without any hero training guidelines or objectives. Bakugowns
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Horikoshi is extremely good at playing with expectations in both micro and macro ways. The Toga reveal is so ace - especially if you're deep into Western comic stuff - because even though there are other hints and she pretty much acts like Toga when alone with Deku, we also see her transform from Ochako to Camie and people with shapeshifter abilities usually can't layer the designs. So it's kind of a cheat, but it's an extremely effective one. This one is for the Eastern audience accustomed to Goku/Vegeta style rivalries. Like Manatee Cannon said, almost every other shounen series takes this opportunity to have the Vegeta bump (either decisively or 'just barely') to the Goku - but Horikoshi might be the best writer in mass market shounen ever when it comes to complex character beats. MHA is a pretty standard shounen, but it's the highest execution of the form to date IMO
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Patware posted:MHA is a pretty standard shounen, but it's the highest execution of the form to date IMO I would like to submit Eyeshield 21 for consideration but I do agree MHA is one of the very best takes on the genre I've ever read.
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Sep 9, 2018 06:33
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Maybe it comes from reading a couple of Sports shonen, but the hero losing to the rival isn’t super uncommon.
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sports is definitely a different genre than battle shounen, it's practically built on constant protagonist failure
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Sep 9, 2018 07:11
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Naruto lost to Sasuke too Besides Vegeta has never lost to just Goku 
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Andrast posted:Naruto lost to Sasuke too and naruto losing to sasuke was considered a big-rear end twist. fortunately, in my hero academia, nobody is sasuke meanwhile vegeta never gets beat by goku but he sure gets murdered a lot by people goku then beats, which is functionally identical
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Sep 9, 2018 07:47
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I don't remember how I felt going into this fight, since I don't think I expected Deku to commit to it like he did. I think Bakugo gets a bad rap and even outside of winning/losing discussion it'll be interesting to see how anime watcher perceptions change in the aftermath.
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I feel like comparing Goku vs Vegeta to Deku vs Bakugou is kinda weird because they're completely different scenarios. The Deku vs Bakugou fight is way lower stakes than any time Goku and Vegeta face off. It's more personal and Deku can afford to lose without any world-shattering consequences or anything, which isn't something that was really the case in Dragon Ball Z. Deku losing is still a big surprise but I think it's for a couple of reasons, not just "Oh, he is the hero and the hero wins fights". Like, I was pretty certain Bakugou was going to lose because he was going through some heavy character development and I was expecting a loss to put him in a situation for some more self-reflection on that. And although Bakugou winning was cool and unexpected I don't think it was like a huge subversion of the traditional battle shonen rivalry.
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I was pretty annoyed by it, but I've also been sick of Bakugo and his sole personality trait for a while now so I really wanted him to get punted through a building.
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Hunt11 posted:It is kind of weird how most of the anime thread are expecting Deku to crush Bakugo. I felt the same way when I first read it tbh. We've seen Deku improve so much and I was still in a post-Midoriya vs Todoroki hype-mode thinking 'Eh, if Deku gets serious he'd just kick him through a building and its not like Bakugo has superspeed like him'. I do still think how Bakugo wins is bullshit, you can't just grit your teeth and yell that you're not going to lose after being super-punched in mid-air. That's not how physics work.
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Nephthys posted:I felt the same way when I first read it tbh. We've seen Deku improve so much and I was still in a post-Midoriya vs Todoroki hype-mode thinking 'Eh, if Deku gets serious he'd just kick him through a building and its not like Bakugo has superspeed like him'. That’s definitely how shonen physics work
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Sep 9, 2018 08:42
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Gritting your teeth and yelling is basically exactly what PLUS ULTRA means.
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Nephthys posted:I felt the same way when I first read it tbh. We've seen Deku improve so much and I was still in a post-Midoriya vs Todoroki hype-mode thinking 'Eh, if Deku gets serious he'd just kick him through a building and its not like Bakugo has superspeed like him'. The entire theme of the kids' education is that real heroes go beyond what should be possible. Bakugo vs Deku is just one of the only on-screen examples of someone who isn't All Might or Deku actually doing it.
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I'm pretty sure that's a matter of pushing past your natural limits, not ignoring the laws of momentum through sheer gently caress-you power. I just really wanted Deku to win. 
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The real winner was you, the reader.
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SyntheticPolygon posted:Gritting your teeth and yelling is basically exactly what PLUS ULTRA means.
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I think Bakugou vs Deku round 2 works so well because Bakugou is literally kinda UPSET that he won. All Might isn't supposed to lose, so neither should the guy he gave all his power too.
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Deku and Bakugo will fight again at some point and it's gonna own I mean narratively it kinda makes sense for Deku to take an L since he's been on a rise since the Sports Festival. By contrast, Bakugo REALLY needed a win considering the series to this point has been knocking him down the rungs. I think it's a really good fight that puts the two back on somewhat equal standing Carlosologist fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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Bakugo could barely keep up with Deku operating at 8%. He's currently at 20% and he's just going to get stronger. I know that relying on that kind of logic is silly in a shonen but Deku should be on the cusp of outright owning him at this point. I'd be interested to see how his air bullets stack up to Bakugo's explosions though.
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Rhonne posted:New Vigilantes There's a lot of  in this chapter.All Might being cute and so worried about his new friend! Poor guy has probably been really lonely for a while now so I can see why he'd react so strongly here. It also has a nice subversion on the whole "superhero saves one person in particular that's special to them" because the Symbol of Peace doing that would show a chink on his armor that villains would just exploit. Makoto continues to be the best and not afraid to sass the cop. She and Tsukauchi have a believable sibling dynamic too. And cat cop makes another appearance.
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Nephthys posted:Bakugo could barely keep up with Deku operating at 8%. He's currently at 20% and he's just going to get stronger. I know that relying on that kind of logic is silly in a shonen but Deku should be on the cusp of outright owning him at this point. they keep pushing each other further and further and taking the rest of the class with them that's the whole point of their dynamic e: like bakugo's fury at todoroki holding back during the sports festival was mostly based in ego but beyond that was a need to see how he measured up to todoroki at his best in other words, "if you wont be better, then how am i supposed to get better" Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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While that's true, I think its been firmly established in the story that One for All just eclipses everything else to almost comical levels so Deku really should start getting further and further ahead of the rest of the school. It's always been one of those big things hanging over the series that no-one is quite sure how Horikoshi is going to handle. Maybe this current arc we'll get a firmer handle on how he stacks up against the other students.
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Nephthys posted:While that's true, I think its been firmly established in the story that One for All just eclipses everything else to almost comical levels so Deku should start getting further and further ahead of the rest of the school. It's always been one of those big things hanging over the series that no-one is quite sure how Horikoshi is going to handle. All Might's supremacy wasn't just because of his Quirk, it's because he was All Might Midoriya thinking otherwise is why he kept reducing his skeleton to confetti the symbol of peace can't be fulfilled by just one person anymore, even with One for All, it's going to be Bakugo and Midoriya working in tandem setting a mutual example for the next generation
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like so much of the fanbase (not saying it's anyone here) so badly wants bakugo to be the schoolyard bully who gets surpassed by midoriya in some big show of catharsis, which is partly why no one ever stops bitching about the "jump off a building" line but he's not that, the narrative has and always will afford him equal respect as midoriya, just for different reasons, and the story is about both of them fulfilling different aspects of the ideal hero that All Might was
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Dude I don't even care about that line. I think its very realistic of what a teenaged bully would say and I think Bakago's a great character. I just don't think it makes sense for a guy whose quirk is explosions and no kind of physical enhancement abiility to possibly be able to keep up with someone even remotely on All Mights level of speed and strength. A weakened All Might was so fast Shigiraki couldn't even see him and he's so fast he can practically teleport on screen. And even Deku was equaling Bakago's explosions with his freaking finger flicks, not even counting All Might shattering a city block by punching the air. Plus the fact that already Deku is over twice as strong and fast as the last time the two fought makes me doubtful Bakago is going to be able to keep up with that scale of lateral improvement. Like I'm sure you're right because Deku absolutely eclipsing his rival like that would be lame but I'm at a loss for how the story could justify him being on Midoriya's level at any point in the future. Nephthys fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Sep 9, 2018 |
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Nephthys posted:Dude I don't even care about that line. I think its very realistic of what a teenaged bully would say and I think Bakago's a great character. I just don't think it makes sense for a guy whose quirk is explosions and no kind of physical enhancement abiility to possibly be able to keep up with someone even remotely on All Mights level of speed and strength. A weakened All Might was so fast Shigiraki couldn't even see him and he's so fast he can practically teleport on screen. And even Deku was equaling Bakago's explosions with his freaking finger flicks, not even counting All Might shattering a city block by punching the air. Plus the fact that already Deku is over twice as strong and fast as the last time the two fought makes me doubtful Bakago is going to be able to keep up with that scale of lateral improvement. Horikoshi obviously disagrees
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