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Ace of Baes posted:If you showed me that picture without context I would assume it's a goonmeet. DSA is a goon meet
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whipping votes for a proclamation that doesn't really say or do anything is extremely liberal
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Postoyevsky posted:DSA doesnt accurately represent the working class...? I mean no argument here but I've yet to see a non labor union org in America that does Hell most labor unions only represent workers superficially
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Maybe when she says "me and malloy wrote a statement about DSA" she actually means "me, malloy, and several comrades from various rural states wrote a statement" but I don't really know how the wily brains of these DC and California flyover types work.
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For the love of Allah read Combat Liberalism and if you sound like what mao calls a liberal? Stop paying dues and go join the Kamala Harris campaign or something
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Larry Parrish posted:Stop paying dues and go join the Kamala Harris campaign most of them will end up doing the latter pretty happily
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Larry Parrish posted:For the love of Allah read Combat Liberalism and if you sound like what mao calls a liberal? Stop paying dues and go join the Kamala Harris campaign or something If the liberals in the DSA read combatting liberalism they would just twist and contort it to confirm whatever they believe and that the real liberals were whoever their "enemies" are.
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My prediction at this point is that they'll be a small loud minority who break away from DSA after the org endorses Bernie and Bernie campaign caucuses become a feature of virtually every DSA chapter. They will then go on to "found" a new socialist org that declares itself radical, it will quickly either implode or fall into disrepair and stop existing before the 2020 election actually happens. A bunch of "socialists" will become Beto/Kamala/Warren/Gilibrand people during this entire process, which has already started.
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Ace of Baes posted:My prediction at this point is that they'll be a small loud minority who break away from DSA after the org endorses Bernie and Bernie campaign caucuses become a feature of virtually every DSA chapter. They will then go on to "found" a new socialist org that declares itself radical, it will quickly either implode or fall into disrepair and stop existing before the 2020 election actually happens. A bunch of "socialists" will become Beto/Kamala/Warren/Gilibrand people during this entire process, which has already started. watching some of the post-2016 twitter leftists suddenly start wringing theri hands about bernie to pivot to gillibrand or warren or whatever has been pretty funny
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:watching some of the post-2016 twitter leftists suddenly start wringing theri hands about bernie to pivot to gillibrand or warren or whatever has been pretty funny https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1080713413980971009
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tbf pritchard has always been a huge dumb lib
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Ace of Baes posted:My prediction at this point is that they'll be a small loud minority who break away from DSA after the org endorses Bernie and Bernie campaign caucuses become a feature of virtually every DSA chapter. They will then go on to "found" a new socialist org that declares itself radical, it will quickly either implode or fall into disrepair and stop existing before the 2020 election actually happens. A bunch of "socialists" will become Beto/Kamala/Warren/Gilibrand people during this entire process, which has already started. Forgot to add this is a really good thing because these people are incredibly toxic to organizing if that hasn't been obvious yet, and the growth of the DSA during this time will only increase in their absence, addition by subtraction.
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gillibrand is just a younger hillary ffs
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Dreddout posted:I mean no argument here but I've yet to see a non labor union org in America that does there's plenty of orgs that are more diverse than DSA the thing most people have to wrap their heads around is that diversity isn't an indication of politics. my union is something like 40% latino, has non-white leadership, and is much more centrist than even most of the libs in the DSA are. but, on the other hand, labor unions provide actual material benefit to their members, even the bad ones, so 
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It's amazing how much posters in this thread feel like they inhabit an entirely different organization. I've sat down with drat near every person who's come to a meeting of my local chapter, folks from across Florida chapters, and even a handful of out of state folks, and talked to them about DSA and I've never heard anything like what Tercio talk about. Nobody's come in because of Bernie, nobody opposes all m4a work, nobody opposes endorsing Bernie. It reminds me a lot of incels tbh, where there's this imaginary evil force (be it "bitches" or "wreckers") that colors every interaction and creates weird slights out of thin air.
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big black turnout posted:It's amazing how much posters in this thread feel like they inhabit an entirely different organization. I've sat down with drat near every person who's come to a meeting of my local chapter, folks from across Florida chapters, and even a handful of out of state folks, and talked to them about DSA and I've never heard anything like what Tercio talk about. Nobody's come in because of Bernie, nobody opposes all m4a work, nobody opposes endorsing Bernie. It reminds me a lot of incels tbh, where there's this imaginary evil force (be it "bitches" or "wreckers") that colors every interaction and creates weird slights out of thin air. There's definitely a faction of the DSA who is against Bernie and M4A work, they're just a minority, pretending they don't exist is dumb though since they literally post in this thread.
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Ace of Baes posted:There's definitely a faction of the DSA who is against Bernie and M4A work, they're just a minority, pretending they don't exist is dumb though since they literally post in this thread. Where? Edit: other than WJ
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Like one of them (Peter Morency) was literally on Boston DSAs leadership.
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big black turnout posted:It's amazing how much posters in this thread feel like they inhabit an entirely different organization. I've sat down with drat near every person who's come to a meeting of my local chapter, folks from across Florida chapters, and even a handful of out of state folks, and talked to them about DSA and I've never heard anything like what Tercio talk about. Nobody's come in because of Bernie, nobody opposes all m4a work, nobody opposes endorsing Bernie. It reminds me a lot of incels tbh, where there's this imaginary evil force (be it "bitches" or "wreckers") that colors every interaction and creates weird slights out of thin air. DSA chapters especially in different areas of the country, are radically different. there are even cities that have multiple chapters where the chapters don't even cooperate to any meaningful degree because they have such strong personal or political differences. I don't doubt your experiences in Florida based off what I know of the chapters there, but I also don't doubt the stuff being said by other folks about chapters in other parts of the country.
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maybe the reason you cant find any wreckers in florida is because you are the wrecker BBT 
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big black turnout posted:Where? Idk you couldn't pay me to read back in this thread but there's definitely ppl opposed to endorsing Bernie and think M4A is a waste of time.
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Jan 14, 2019 02:59
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When I helped found a DSA chapter about half the people who showed up were inspired by Bernie or were radicals who'd been completely disengaged with political activity before Bernie ran in 2016.
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big black turnout posted:It's amazing how much posters in this thread feel like they inhabit an entirely different organization. I've sat down with drat near every person who's come to a meeting of my local chapter, folks from across Florida chapters, and even a handful of out of state folks, and talked to them about DSA and I've never heard anything like what Tercio talk about. Nobody's come in because of Bernie, nobody opposes all m4a work, nobody opposes endorsing Bernie. It reminds me a lot of incels tbh, where there's this imaginary evil force (be it "bitches" or "wreckers") that colors every interaction and creates weird slights out of thin air.
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freckle posted:what is their problem with RBC? They were upset that we didn't want to use their syllabus in our agenda that we spent months planning out with all the Rust Belt chapters. They in fact tried to force us to use it by threatening to not give 1,000$ for funding the event. We eventually forced them to pay us. I know Maria Svart has been an rear end in a top hat to our Membership Coordinator who consequently was also the main organizer for the RBC (and is 1000000000000000x the organizer than most people in this org and especially National which isn't shocking given she's an IWW organizer). Specifically because our Membership Coordinator personally asked Maria for National's help in keeping Pittsburgh's Membership lists up to date and show who was lapsing and well according to Maria it wasn't National's responsibility to do that and Pittsburgh should try better in keeping track of it's members. achillesforever6 has issued a correction as of 04:18 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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solidarity forever* *terms and conditions may apply
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Goon Danton posted:anyone have any dsa news that wont make me more depressed or angry? Detroit chapter has an action planned this Friday outside of the "Auto Prom" where all the GM execs and other rich folks will be blowing themselves about how charitable they are. *edit* Just realized the tweets related to this are on the last page. mrfreeze has issued a correction as of 04:38 on Jan 14, 2019 |
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Jan 14, 2019 04:33
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national should use the dues money to buy an abandoned factory and have it run and controlled by members who are also the workers.
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This will be vital when we need somewhere to manufacture arms and bullets during the revolution.
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In 2030 Ace of Baes is going to still be posting about Peter Morency. Posting to a tree stump in front of the collapsed car park he lives under after the megacane took out the entire eastern side of America.
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:In 2030 Ace of Baes is going to still be posting about Peter Morency. Posting to a tree stump in front of the collapsed car park he lives under after the megacane took out the entire eastern side of America. hell... same.
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Unbelievably Fat Man posted:In 2030 Ace of Baes is going to still be posting about Peter Morency. Posting to a tree stump in front of the collapsed car park he lives under after the megacane took out the entire eastern side of America. i'll be drawing amber from memory in a patch of mud with a stick, only to beat it with a crutch
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im gonna be redistributing flesh in neo-angeles and organizing the workers at the neo-Dennys
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the only people I’ve met in my chapter who weren’t at least started on the road to the DSA by the sanders campaign were the people who’ve been in the dsa for years and years already also Bernie is good and it’d be extremely foolish not to dive in to the campaign when he declares. the chapter whose priority is figuring out how to handle the incoming influx of potential members has the right plan
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Ace of Baes posted:national should use the dues money to buy an abandoned factory and have it run and controlled by members who are also the workers. Democratic Left published daily
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I'm gonna guess the DC DSA sucks because it's full of rich liberal failsons who weren't cool enough to get in on one of the real political-themed daycares for future lobbyists so they latch onto whatever other options are available.
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big black turnout posted:Where? I'm not against, I don't think either m4a or Bernie are ways to grow power, given that we're largely ambulance chasing with respect to both If we're organizing around getting Bernie elected, why would interested people join us instead of joining the Bernie campaign apparatus?
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gods and radicals lmao
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