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luminalflux posted:If they drugtested in the bay area there's no way they could find the level of talent that exists here now. The way I best heard this phrased was "we do drug testing here, we like to test a lot of drugs."
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luminalflux posted:If they drugtested in the bay area there's no way they could find the level of talent that exists here now. I've yet to have a drug test for a computer-related job of any sort.
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Nov 18, 2015 05:43
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:I've yet to have a drug test for a computer-related job of any sort. Friend of mine works for a pipeline service company. He's subject to random testing.
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The Fool posted:Friend of mine works for a pipeline service company. He's subject to random testing. Is the pipeline in question the urethra
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luminalflux posted:If they drugtested in the bay area there's no way they could find the level of talent that exists here now. One of the three letter agencies, I don't recall which, had a new guy complain (publicly) a few months ago that drug testing was preventing them from getting the best developers and other tech talent.
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E: Nvm, I can't read while half asleep
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Nov 18, 2015 09:42
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Malachite_Dragon posted:Is this for the job you're leaving or the one you're applying for? He mentions "the station" in the post so the former.
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Nov 18, 2015 10:03
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 Thats what I get for trying to post at 3 in the morning.
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Nov 18, 2015 10:05
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Drug testing is weird to me anyways, because all the drugs you'd think they'd be testing for are usually not caught in time to actually test for them before the body gets rid of them, unless it's weed or opiates or benzos. If you're not sober on the job it's pretty obvious, so why even bother with the test? What about legitimate perscriptions?
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Nov 18, 2015 10:10
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Drug testing is weird to me anyways, because all the drugs you'd think they'd be testing for are usually not caught in time to actually test for them before the body gets rid of them, unless it's weed or opiates or benzos. If you're not sober on the job it's pretty obvious, so why even bother with the test? What about legitimate perscriptions? Weed is evil you know! If you smoke we you probably do that other stuff! And if you have a prescription you take it with you and show them.
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Nov 18, 2015 12:21
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It really doesn't matter if they have a prescription; under federal law, which trumps state law, it is still an illegal substance. I mean, it doesn't matter to me whether you smoke or shoot. Its just the law. I also know that health insurance providers that insure a company require the drug testing, not the employer itself. \/ Weed was what I was referring to. SlayVus fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Nov 18, 2015 |
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Nov 18, 2015 12:40
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SlayVus posted:It really doesn't matter if they have a prescription; under federal law, which trumps state law, it is still an illegal substance. I've had to deal with have a narcotic prescription before. You prove you have it legally (meaning a prescription) and you are fine. Unless it's weed since the government denies that it might have any valid medical effect.
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Nov 18, 2015 13:12
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I was surprised that my company doesn't drug test at all. But then I realized that the banking floors are filled with Patrick Bateman clones in sneakers and it all made sense. So we all reap the benefits of the need for coke-fueled type A personalities to keep the income flowing.
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Nov 18, 2015 14:20
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Aunt Beth posted:I mostly meant in terms of employment. Their devices are fine in my opinion, but their offices are generally depressing. Because who cares if your Hahaha I spent a summer as real time analyst/workforce manager / The Person Who Does at XEROX. as soon as the numbers went down all our free sandwiches and pizza and whatever got taken away. Our stats tanking might have something to do with the management hiring everyone who can put a headset on within three tries but hey... Not like I warned them about that. I watched the stats tumble, documented my automated payroll system (which, my successor informs me, isn't being used despite testing and approval by ops and HR lol) and Python tools I'd crafted and ollied out back to academia. It was wonderful; the IT guy and I shared and office and spent our days fixing things and bitching about management.
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Nov 18, 2015 14:35
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mediaphage posted:One of the three letter agencies, I don't recall which, had a new guy complain (publicly) a few months ago that drug testing was preventing them from getting the best developers and other tech talent. I read something similar, basically the CIA, NSA, FBI cant recruit any young tech workers anymore. Between the comparatively mediocre pay, culture, and civil rights issues revealed by Jon Snowden no young tech talent wants to go work for them anymore. So basically they get stuck with the leftovers.
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Nov 18, 2015 14:46
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This is from 2014. http://www.thewire.com/national/2014/05/fbi-director-dont-let-weed-stop-you-from-applying-to-the-fbi/371279/
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Crowley posted:This is from 2014. What I have always been told with regards to government jobs and stuff like this is that if they want you, they'll waive anything.
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Nov 18, 2015 14:55
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For me, I was drug tested for my first IT gig in 2005 at a local manufacturer. This was allegedly because their insurance required it, as it was a place with dangerous machines.
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Nov 18, 2015 15:21
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I was randomly drug tested once at my first real IT gig. I was IT for a large mattress chain. Random tests were required because we had a fleet of delivery guys, and insurance required it for anyone who would drive for work. As a business you have to do it for ALL employees to be fair. We actually lost our 58 year old AS/400 operator/maintainer to a random test...
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Nov 18, 2015 15:25
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I had to be drug tested when I worked as a "sales associate" for $8.50/hr at Fry's.
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Nov 18, 2015 15:28
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I think in most cases drug testing is done for the same reason a lot of questionable business processes are: cargo cult mentality. The government and IBM do/did it so clearly it must be a good idea!
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My company has annual mandatory online training, i.e. "Everyone has to take the online safety presentations every year." It's essentially a condition of employment, yet every year there are people that are shocked, SHOCKED by the deadlines. We even have a fancy little dashboard that we set up to list what classes you have to take and it's color coded by status: green is complete, yellow means "deadline approaching," red means overdue. A call came in...  : Hey, Macaroni! How can we be expected to comply with these requirements when the dashboard provides faulty information? I don't have time for this! : I'm sorry for any technical problems that may have occurred. Let's take a look at your dashboard.: See? There's a list of 8 classes and I did them all months ago! It's broken!: Um, there are indeed 8 classes listed, but they're all green and the dashboard lists the date you completed them. See, there's a whole column for "Date Completed." Great work getting your requirements done early!: How am I supposed to know what a green dot means? If I see a list of classes, I assume that means I need to take them! I'm escalating this problem to management. : Please feel free to do so. Fortunately management has already won over the C-level folks with our convenient, easy to read dashboard, so this got shut down quickly. Sirotan posted:I got a new coworker a bit ago that I've not posted anything about because I was worried he might be a goon. But then today I learned that he had no idea what rickrolling was. 
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RFC2324 posted:Weed is evil you know! If you smoke we you probably do that other stuff! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKCYDrur_WI
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Sirotan posted:I got a new coworker a bit ago that I've not posted anything about because I was worried he might be a goon. But then today I learned that he had no idea what rickrolling was. He's playing the long con. Expect a mammoth rickroll in a cake sometime in your future.
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Japanese Dating Sim posted:I had to be drug tested when I worked as a "sales associate" for $8.50/hr at Fry's. God I hate going into Fry's- it's like the Walmart of tech equipment. Just like Walmart, everyone working there just seems to want to die.
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Just Offscreen posted:God I hate going into Fry's- it's like the Walmart of tech equipment. Just like Walmart, everyone working there just seems to want to die. I've worked enough lovely retail jobs to have learned one thing - anyone working in that job that doesn't want to die (outside of part time highschool kids) is a broken human being.
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I had to complete drug screening for saleman works at both Best Buy and Lowes. Lowes, I could understand, due to the forklifts and other power tools. Best Buy, to sell fridges and washers? Not so much. My current job did a thorough background check, thumb print, drug screening, etc., so that they could say that every one of their employees are basically certified non-criminals. There's no other drug screenings past the initial one, but now I'm In The System should my prints ever come up on anything the cops are interested in.
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Just Offscreen posted:God I hate going into Fry's- it's like the Walmart of tech equipment. Just like Walmart, everyone working there just seems to want to die. I lasted two months there. It was the worst job I've ever had and converted me from someone who would shop their occasionally to someone who will not ever go there under any circumstances. STORY TIME: The primary reason that I quit, aside from it being generally soul-crushing work, was the following situation. I worked "Accessory Sales" in the computer department which basically means I was in charge of stocking the aisles and arranging things and answering questions, etc. Your general retail grunt. Fry's also employs salesmen that work off of commission to sell desktops - sometimes, though, the customers would approach us and we'd help them. Once we they'd made a selection, it was customary for us to hand them off to someone who worked on commission so that they could get said commission. Sales guy would generate a quote that they'd take up to the front to buy their computer, said quote would have their info so they'd get a commission, etc. The sales manager's station was located right next to the printer where the quotes came out. Apparently the guy I had found to print the quote out was on his shitlist, so the the manager grabbed the quote when it came out, saw that it had no accessories on it, and promptly ripped it up and threw it away. This was of course after the salesman and I had explained to the customer that their quote would come out at that station and directed their attention toward it. They saw this happen, turned and asked us wtf, and for some reason the salesman explained everything in full detail - about how he was supposed to sell them accessories - which made the customers go up the manager, yell at him and make a scene, and storm out. Manager immediately turns over to us, has us come into the back, and yells at us. For whatever reason he assumes I was the one who told the customer that, and I decide that I really could not give any less of a gently caress about the job so I don't correct him. Afterward the salesman thanks me for not correcting him and saying that he was sure he would've been fired if I had. I tell him I don't care about the job and that I'm giving my two weeks notice (I wanted to collect the last full paycheck following the insanity/overtime pay of Black Friday). I learn shortly after from someone who had worked there a while that it was customary for him to fire & have security escort people giving their two weeks' notices on the spot, so I opted to instead just quit 15 minutes before one of my shifts about two weeks later instead. Also they just repackage all of their returned stuff and a bunch of guys got fired for stealing like 30 iPods while I worked there. I think three separate people were fired for separate occasions of harassing the one woman who worked in our department, too. Basically I hope they go out of business but somehow they keep crawling along...
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A ticket came in. Subject: [girl's first name, not the submitter] Contents: [blank] Attachments: [picture of assurion loss form for an iphone that was dropped off a dresser at home and broke] [image of a driver's license] important note: We don't provide phones to employees. Like, WTF?
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So a ticket came in a few weeks ago. User needed Visio installed on his laptop. I don't have access to the vlsc portal so I get the sa to grab me the key. He emails me 5 keys. They are all kms. I ask him for a mak key as the client doesn't run kms but he tells me they are interchangeable. I try and argue with him but he was having none of that. Fast forward to today when I catch the user not on the road, I install Visio, try the keys and surprise surprise they didn't work. I go back to the sa asking for mak keys as the kms keys didn't work and he loses it on me. I love working for msp's sometimes.
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blackswordca posted:So a ticket came in a few weeks ago. User needed Visio installed on his laptop. I don't have access to the vlsc portal so I get the sa to grab me the key. He emails me 5 keys. They are all kms. I ask him for a mak key as the client doesn't run kms but he tells me they are interchangeable. I try and argue with him but he was having none of that. Fast forward to today when I catch the user not on the road, I install Visio, try the keys and surprise surprise they didn't work. I go back to the sa asking for mak keys as the kms keys didn't work and he loses it on me. The paging system goes through our phone system. Part of the building isn't getting pages. I believe there is a wiring fault someplace, or that the amp from the 70s needs to be replaced. Nope manager insists it has to be the phone system loving up. Still waiting for support to come out and tell me it's not their problem and give me the bill so I can call someone who can actually fix this. The phone system puts pages through a single line out port. There is no way this is a configuration issue. Sometimes you just need to go through the motions. Even when you know it's wrong to appease someone higher up.
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Tickets won't be coming in April 22nd through 24th! Cause I got PAX East passes  In ticket news the RAID batteries on the NetApp arrays Quantum uses for metadata sure do like to die a lot.
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God's speed. So that you don't get run over crossing the street.
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larchesdanrew posted:Here I go
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larchesdanrew posted:Here I go Make sure to wave at your old boss.
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pixaal posted:Make sure to wave at your old boss. He's watching with binoculars.
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Someone asked why my job is putting personal phones out the justification was if the firm is giving them money for their cell phone then tough poo poo it's going on the email signature. I'm off today but the notice about this went out 5pm EST so most people missed it but I'll have to go find how many tickets this generated cause I know the handful we go were just the tip of the iceberg.
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larchesdanrew posted:Here I go Good luck.
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