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I was thinking this one https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PiLVAz-Jczg “You’re not supposed to do that, Daryl!”
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Phi230 posted:the milhist thread taught me that all leftists support soviet style centrally planned state capitalism and that trotskyism, maoism, titoism, leftcoms, and socialists/demsocs never existed and were all apart of the comintern without dissent and the soviet system is, and always has been, the only form of socialism to ever exist You're a dumb.
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Fangz posted:Edit: this is like someone coming in to dispute that the Nazis did bad things with "omg Hitler wasn't a real Nazi, don't you know about the night of the long knives, how dare you erase strasserites, you darn lefties" or something Death in June does exist, yes.
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my dad posted:Death in June does exist, yes. Please tell me you are joking. There is only so much general faith in humanity that I can lose in one year.
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Hunt11 posted:Please tell me you are joking. There is only so much general faith in humanity that I can lose in one year. quote:In search of a political view for the future we came across National Bolshevism which is closely connected with the SA hierarchy. People like Gregor Strasser and Ernst Röhm,who were later known as 'second revolutionaries' attracted our attention. quote:I prefer to suck, white, uncircumsised cocks of a certain age so I suppose that rules out quite a few races and religions in one huge act of sexual discrimination. However, that's natural selection for you. It follows on that, of course race is important to me! quote:I don't think women deserve the same rights as men. I don't think women are on an equal footing with men. I think they're totally different creatures. I think the world operated better when they had less say over how the way things went, had less control. Actual quotes from band members. Some of them fought alongside fascist militias in Croatia back in the early 90s. my dad fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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Nov 17, 2017 23:59
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my dad posted:Actual quotes from band members. Some of them fought alongside fascist militias in Croatia back in the early 90s. Out of all the horrifying things they said, the quote saying 'of a certain age' adds a whole new level of horror from all this poo poo.
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A certain segment of the right that got rather popular recently and which that particular quote might remind you of did not just spring out of nowhere, is actually drawing on a well established historical tradition with recognizable traits, and is not something fundamentally new. edit: Bonus quotes quote:I feel that I'm a fascist, but Nazi is a real specific term. I'm a fascist in the sense of the modern bastardised meaning of the word. quote:Whereas modern music propaganda is an instrument of Jewish interest and Black and so forth, we see emerging a new propaganda form for white Aryans. my dad fucked around with this message at 00:21 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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I was gonna say no way gwot re enacting exists but then I remembered there are arma realism clans. Ey, who said they had the old manuals from Finnish artillery? I wanna read that
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What's the oldest war that people reenact? I assume there are Greek warrior fans, but does anyone re-enact ancient Egypt or the Hittites or such?
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Hunt11 posted:As a general note if you want to view a world that slowly moves towards communism one has to address the fact that the only attempts that seemed to have lasting power all ended up being this horrifyingly oppressive states.
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wdarkk posted:What's the oldest war that people reenact? I assume there are Greek warrior fans, but does anyone re-enact ancient Egypt or the Hittites or such? Oldest I've seen in person are Early Imperial Romans.
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scissorman posted:I'm sorry for digging up this post but could you please elaborate on how this worked? this is also how you introduce officers to the company, the company forms its ring and the officers walk into the middle of it and they they say "now you know these officers by sight, do you accept them or not" and the soldiers either yell yes or no edit: geoffrey parker has an article about this, about strikes in the spanish army of flanders: they throw their own officers out, elect their own officers, and then start making demands
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Ainsley McTree posted:Were there any other guns in history that went ping
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Rockopolis posted:You need two sides? Is this reenactment stuff like, boffer LARP with guns or something? You don't just like, set up a camp and steal chickens and poop in a hole in the ground?
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Phi230 posted:How do you determine who gets shot in a tactical then if it's like childish like that if one of those happened to someone and they refuse to die anyway? total douche, gently caress him
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HEY GUNS posted:if i keep saying that "every attempt to do X has failed horrifically" that might mean stop trying to do X, it's impossible Yeah let's ignore most attempts at leftist change have been violently suppressed, overthrown, or caused by external agitation Totally should give up because it's totally the ideology and not making a disingenuous bad faith post that ignores a lot of fact Do those above examples fit into the data or do you just feel some kind of way about left ideology Phi230 fucked around with this message at 02:12 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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I bet if we went back in time you wouldn't say that about, say, protestants. You could apply that logic to any political or social movement too that challenges established power structures
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Nov 18, 2017 02:09
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Phi230 posted:I bet if we went back in time you wouldn't say that about, say, protestants. You could apply that logic to any political or social movement too The politics sub-forum is that'a'way!
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Jobbo_Fett posted:The politics sub-forum is that'a'way! Heed this man's advice.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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The past 10 pages remind me of a thing I read that said the only thing the left hates more than the right is everyone else on the left. HEY GUNS posted:it gets really childish and usually it's (if you are a musketeer) if you're out of shots or (if you're a pikemen) did your enemy land a hit that would have killed you if his weapon were real A friend of mine does American Revolution reenactment, and what I've seen is it's a whole lot of doing historical drill and firing blanks at each other. Cool to look at but I don't quite see why I'd want to be in the sun for that long wearing those clothes. Side note that the thread might be interested in. His family originally came to America before and during the Revolution and he takes pride in reenacting family history. But his family is Scottish and except for a small group of them who had already settled in america much earlier, most of them were royalists. He told me one member of his family fought in the battle of long island as part of the Black Watch, not sure how true that is but you can guess what he is always reenacting as (playing as? I have no idea what the proper terminology is). I should ask him about details one of these days, I didnt know there were a lot of Scots in the revolution until he told me he spent every summer pretending to be Scottish and shooting at George Washington.
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Phi230 posted:I bet if we went back in time you wouldn't say that about, say, protestants. You could apply that logic to any political or social movement too that challenges established power structures This argument is going nowhere but I feel like if you are going to make examples like that, then using a religious branch that was already having major political victories about twenty years or so after the movement started and in less then one hundred years was already creating a permanent foothold for itself is not the best choice.
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look I think regardless of one's views on the true nature of communism, we should all be able to agree that in retrospect the reformation was a mistake
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Hunt11 posted:This argument is going nowhere but I feel like if you are going to make examples like that, then using a religious branch that was already having major political victories about twenty years or so after the movement started and in less then one hundred years was already creating a permanent foothold for itself is not the best choice. Yeah sure let's ignore the brutal suppression of prots and, if going by Hey guns post, also ignore all existing or successful examples while only including their failures. By that standard where we only look at examples of protestant failures, and maintain an overbroad definition of failure, then I would say every attempt had failed and they should have given up tbh
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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:look I think regardless of one's views on the true nature of communism, we should all be able to agree that in retrospect the reformation was a mistake Despite prots being bad nowadays they were still a progressive force of history in fostering the transition to capitalism and I would prefer a world where I need to visit a reliquary twice a week or else I get burned alive, or like pay for indulgences
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I actually believe all religion is a mistake. Not a lot of people do (guys come on stop)
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Shut the gently caress up Keldoclock.
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Phi230 posted:Yeah sure let's ignore the brutal suppression of prots and, if going by Hey guns post, also ignore all existing or successful examples while only including their failures. The reason people aren't falling over themselves to agree with you isn't that they aren't leftist or that they don't understand what communism is, it's that you're an rear end in a top hat and you don't know what you're talking about.
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A question: could there ever have been a Walloon dragoon platoon armed with spadroons? Bonus pts if they became marooned at some point.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:Wow are you capable of just shutting up. It's obvious at this point the only ideology you consider "leftist' is communism, and communism has never done wrong by your assessment, because then it's not communist. My argument has always been that the Soviet Union was not authoritarian to build socialism but rather to consolidate power in the Soviet state and eliminate opposition against the party, and that we can learn lessons from the blunders of socialism past. And that the Soviet state cannot be described as a communist system because it did not fit the definition of one. The USSR's idea of building socialism, unique to the USSR,was flawed from the start and devolved into authoritarianism. Y'all never heard of pretext? I bet you take the CPRC at face value then when they claim they're using markets to build socialism in the future as well. You're yelling past my posts And no you are the one who doesn't seem to understand the existence of a patchwork of left ideology, and most relevant the anti-stalinist left. Or even the existence of anarchist, syndicalist, and socialist states/entities that don't/didnt follow Marxism-Leninism or Maoism. Most of those said entities were crushed militarily or in counter-revolution, like many south American countries, Catalonia, Paris, in Germany. Even left movements crushed by the USSR in Hungary and Kronstatd. Phi230 fucked around with this message at 02:50 on Nov 18, 2017 |
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Tree Bucket posted:A question: could there ever have been a Walloon dragoon platoon armed with spadroons? Bonus pts if they became marooned at some point. A platoon of Walloon dragoons with spadroons and harpoons marooned on the moon, Dr Seuss's little known last book.
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Phi230 posted:My argument has always been that the Soviet Union was not authoritarian to build socialism but rather to consolidate power in the Soviet state and eliminate opposition against the party, and that we can learn lessons from the blunders of socialism past. And that the Soviet state cannot be described as a communist system because it did not fit the definition of one. No I understood your argument I just think it’s a stupid one.
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Don Gato posted:A platoon of Walloon dragoons with spadroons and harpoons marooned on the moon, Dr Seuss's little known last book. Floating on a pontoon and armed as well with spontoons
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WoodrowSkillson posted:Floating on a pontoon and armed as well with spontoons In a raging monsoon.
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dublish posted:Shut the gently caress up Keldoclock.
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Molentik posted:Another combat jump was made by the Dutch in Indonesia the rhodesian's used paratroopers in the bush war/2nd chimerenga. i don't know how frequently this occurred but they'd drop a platoon sized element when insurgents were identified. they used helos as well and probably more often. im not sure about the split because it wasn't really relevant to what i was doing in school.
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In 20 years, somebody is fiddling around in the library of congress with the hard drive where all of SA is stored for posterity. The power goes out for just a moment, and it turns out a wee little bit of data was corrupted, and they're all worried at first, but then they do the numbers and figure out that only about 10 pages from a single thread was lost. After looking at the page before the 10 lost pages, and the page after the lost 10 pages, they determine absolutely nothing of any value was lost. Which is a real shame, because P-Mack had a great line about that infernal bone empire.
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I’m a little salty still over people who made giant requests at once, EE, because the backlog there. But I would like to request the US 105mm howitzer
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Ainsley McTree posted:I actually believe all religion is a mistake. Not a lot of people do Those airmen who venerated that moldy slice of baloney left on bunkbed had the right idea. Pure faith, unhindered by any holy writ or contorted theological arguments or even any tradition. No need to justify their belief in the unjustifiable, just pure belief in. . . something.
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dublish posted:Shut the gently caress up Keldoclock.
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