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Fray posted:I think he's just punting. The plaintiffs could appeal to circuit and try to get it remanded with their standing established, but that will take time. And by giving that unofficial ruling on the merits, he may be signaling the plaintiffs that it's not worth their time to do that. If the judge is signaling that using tents to conduct drive-thru voting violates state law, then it seems absolutely worth their time to appeal, even if those votes are thrown out after election day. (or maybe especially if those votes are thrown out after election day). It seems consistent for the 5th circuit (or even SCOTUS) to mandate following the state legislature's requirements to the letter.
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saintonan posted:If the judge is signaling that using tents to conduct drive-thru voting violates state law, then it seems absolutely worth their time to appeal, even if those votes are thrown out after election day. (or maybe especially if those votes are thrown out after election day). It seems consistent for the 5th circuit (or even SCOTUS) to mandate following the state legislature's requirements to the letter. He said this: "I also do not find the voting to be illegal. These are registered voters who gave their ID." He's clearly saying plaintiffs would lose on the merits if it came to that.
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I guess we could say Steve's got the Hotze for voter suppression? I'll see myself out now.
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i actually don't like that they have to keep the tent votes separated from the rest, seems ominious
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i say swears online posted:i actually don't like that they have to keep the tent votes separated from the rest, seems ominious yeah it's a clever vile ploy, honestly - doesn't actually get him in as much trouble as making an actual ruling - reserves the right to throw them out if they'd make a difference - discourages people from using the tents
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Harris Co. was only anticipating 20k through the tents tomorrow. Obviously they should count, but at least most of those people can still cast a vote of election day. Also the judge said "If I were you I wouldn't drive through vote tomorrow" which is even more ominious  zoux fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Nov 2, 2020 |
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What about those of us who drive thru voted in a parking garage? Are we not included in this?
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Bioshuffle posted:This is the point I was making. Not all Trump supporters will have flags in their trucks. I think a button mess-up happened here with the follow-up lol
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There is now a ton of confusion as to whether people who drive thru voted should fill out a provisional ballot tomorrow “just in case”. I’m leaning towards not doing that (pandemic) but it’s bugging me and will continue to do so until we know who won.
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b0ng posted:There is now a ton of confusion as to whether people who drive thru voted should fill out a provisional ballot tomorrow “just in case”. I’m leaning towards not doing that (pandemic) but it’s bugging me and will continue to do so until we know who won. If they toss votes out I think pitchforks and torches are a more reasonable course of action.
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What? Provisional ballots get thrown in a shredder. If they don't give you an actual ballot then they're fuckin with you.
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Kull the Conqueror posted:If they toss votes out I think pitchforks and torches are a more reasonable course of action. If 127,000+ votes get thrown out, I don't see how parts of Houston don't end the night in flames.
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Like, what would be the previous record for voiding that many ballots in any situation? Is there any precedent?
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Tom Perez is in Austin. Just watched him and some other partisans speak. He specifically mentioned the texas supreme court... which I thought was... interesting ? Is there a snow balls chance? You have to wonder if these are for the volunteers or for the candidates at this point. Jose Garza was the best speaker.
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https://twitter.com/scottbraddock/status/1323406834858905600 I don't think people get just how crazy Steve Hotze is
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zoux posted:I don't think people get just how crazy Steve Hotze is https://twitter.com/Jennifer_Hiller/status/1323376828522860545 Even the lawyer is just saying the quiet part out loud now, huh
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https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1323397825712001029 Here's his full ruling. He said that the statute governing early voting means tents count as buildings for the purposes of voting, but the election day statue means that tents don't count.
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Oh Snapple! posted:I think a button mess-up happened here with the follow-up lol Yea yea its getting fixed.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:Yea yea its getting fixed. That happened to me in this thread and I got an extra full day on top of a sixer for lightly poking fun at zoux. That dude both sidesed Nazis and has a history of both sidesing Nazis, so maybe it'd be ok to just let those two sixers stack or whatever. Or maybe I misunderstood what's getting fixed.
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Captain Monkey posted:That happened to me in this thread and I got an extra full day on top of a sixer for lightly poking fun at zoux. That dude both sidesed Nazis and has a history of both sidesing Nazis, so maybe it'd be ok to just let those two sixers stack or whatever. Or maybe I misunderstood what's getting fixed. No, he is getting something longer.
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Seven Hundred Bee posted:No, he is getting something longer. Ok that's cool.
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b0ng posted:There is now a ton of confusion as to whether people who drive thru voted should fill out a provisional ballot tomorrow “just in case”. I’m leaning towards not doing that (pandemic) but it’s bugging me and will continue to do so until we know who won. What's the process for this? I drive thru voted at Toyota Center a couple weeks ago, and sort of want to hedge my bets - do I just go to my voting location, tell them I voted but it might not count since it was drive thru, and they give me a provisional one?
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1323397825712001029 Now, I know that the areas/precincts at the center of this are strongly democratic, but given the strong D lean of early voters as a whole, and the signaling from republicans that they intend to vote ON election day in higher numbers, isn't this still kinda an own goal in that it's going to complicate election day voting for a disproportionately high for the area republican electorate?
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ReidRansom posted:Now, I know that the areas/precincts at the center of this are strongly democratic, but given the strong D lean of early voters as a whole, and the signaling from republicans that they intend to vote ON election day in higher numbers, isn't this still kinda an own goal in that it's going to complicate election day voting for a disproportionately high for the area republican electorate?
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Dramatika posted:What's the process for this? I drive thru voted at Toyota Center a couple weeks ago, and sort of want to hedge my bets - do I just go to my voting location, tell them I voted but it might not count since it was drive thru, and they give me a provisional one? If you take the judge's ruling at face value, he's saying the statute for early voting is different than election day voting. Early voting requires a "structure", but election day voting requires a "building". The judge threaded that particular needle by saying that a tent is a structure, but not a building. Who knows what the 5th Circuit will say, but I would not drive thru vote tomorrow, because it's plausible that those votes will be deemed illegal with no way to add those votes later.
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Apparently Fifth Circuit already has this on the docket https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1323415407831752704
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The worst case scenario for Drive Thru voting is that you can't do it on Election day. The already cast votes will not be thrown own. Not only is that something beyond the pale, Hannen explictly said he wasn't going to toss the already cast votes. Additionally, I think defendants are going to run up again laches (i.e. they waited too long to file). This is nothing more than a disinformation campaign and I'm torn between stomping these claims in the ground and ignoring them
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Is this the Twitter censorship that the cons have been bitching about https://twitter.com/taddmike/status/1323435763166576642
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maybe this is showing my rear end but who the hell is @ira
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He is adjacent to the pod save bros
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It’s ira glass.
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Dramatika posted:Apparently Fifth Circuit already has this on the docket https://twitter.com/RMFifthCircuit/status/1323468264882774016 They added the founder of Conservapedia to the case. It's a real who's who of the top RW shits in the legal realm. FBS posted:maybe this is showing my rear end but who the hell is @ira Ira Madison III, he hosts a show on the Crooked Media (Pod Save America) network about pop culture/politics. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ira_Madison_III
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Looks like with this appeal, they're just pushing for the injunction for tomorrow (so far) and not to throw out the 127k votes?
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https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1323481658767663104?s=20 It's cool and awesome how this is what's happening the night before Election Day
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FBS posted:https://twitter.com/zachdespart/status/1323481658767663104?s=20 Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! They don't even have to win their evil legal challenge to win.
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Despite the ridiculous anti-voter judicial climate, I do think Chris Hollins is pretty drat good at his job. The Toyota Center (which will remain open and satisfies the 'building' technicality discussed earlier today) is at the heart of dem support in Houston, and many of the other 'tent' locations are out towards the suburbs. Did the Republicans just suppress their own voters on their big day? 
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My fear when I read "[Harris official aka big time democrat] closes 9 of 10 drive-through polling places" was that they picked the one to keep open based on partisan math, because that's what Republicans would do. Instead it seems to be based on the actual legal question: https://twitter.com/CGHollins/status/1323480531309309952
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Alright y’all, time to lay down your markers: President: T+2 Senate: C+5 State House: Flip
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