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McGavin posted:Jesus Christ. You need tens of thousands of views before you can get statistically significant results from A/B testing. The worst part is it really cuts into my posting
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Splicer posted:Dumb poo poo your work does: do skeleton and let go I mean, it was meant to be go skeleton, but upon reflection that doesn't make a whole lot more sense either
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Dameius posted:You need to do the minimum viable compliance. Try that and gauge the reaction and then adjust accordingly. Yeah I really gotta do this tbh 
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Chewbecca posted:I mean, it was meant to be go skeleton, but upon reflection that doesn't make a whole lot more sense either Never go full skeleton
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Atopian posted:Lmao, even. Lmao indeed A company I know let everyone compete for an opening when a boss left and promoted the winner. The winner then, immediately consolidated power by PIP and pushing out everyone of their former peers.
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Barudak posted:Lmao indeed Full-on royal family power struggle with slightly less blood.
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Chewbecca posted:I mean, it was meant to be go skeleton, but upon reflection that doesn't make a whole lot more sense either Make like a skeleton and bone (maybe not at work)
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May 9, 2024 12:38
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Freaquency posted:“Now that this person is on their way out the door they’re a corporate espionage risk! We’re the 3rd-biggest widget supplier in the tri-state area and they might be sending all of our secrets to a competitor right now. Better throw them out on their rear end, even if they have a load of institutional knowledge that would be nice to hand over to someone else” The obsession with security over functionality is one of the more annoying parts of working on modern offices. I get it, we need to be safe, but maybe stop self-owning so hard on your attempts to do so? Because yeah this poo poo just leads to throwing out someone with valuable institutional knowledge, information that they should be using their last two weeks documenting and getting together for their replacement, but instead it's considered way WAY more important to get ahead of the risk rather than leave the company functional. Meanwhile zero consideration for how leaving a gaping hole in work processes ends up compromising security because people end up having to do weird poo poo to cover the gaps. There should be balance between security vs leaving the role in a functional spot, maybe reduced access for employees during their final weeks, etc - but doing that would require the various departments of places working together and lol on that. Meanwhile the reality is that person still has all those secrets in their loving head, so cutting server access isn't really going to keep them from sharing that info. It just means Bob in opsec can check off in his excel sheet that he's kept us all safe, once again, from our own former coworker. StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 13:14 on May 9, 2024 |
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My favorite story about employees giving notice and getting walked out the door is from an electric utility transmission control room. The story goes, people would give their two week notice, and immediately be walked out the building. Something about the fact that management was afraid the employee could sabotage the electrical system or something. That lasted until someone just faxed in (this story is a bit old now) their notice, so they didn’t have to deal with being escorted out. Supposedly that woke up someone at management that things had to change. I think they finally realized that if someone is that upset, they are not going to wait to submit their notice. They are either just going to break something, or they are going to walk off the job.
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Sabotaging the grid to tap out your two week notice in Morse code
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wash bucket posted:So do y'all not use Windows or Microsoft products? That poo poo if filthy with AI these days. Copilot is the new Clippy. StrangersInTheNight posted:The obsession with security over functionality is one of the more annoying parts of working on modern offices. I get it, we need to be safe, but maybe stop self-owning so hard on your attempts to do so? Because yeah this poo poo just leads to throwing out someone with valuable institutional knowledge, information that they should be using their last two weeks documenting and getting together for their replacement, but instead it's considered way WAY more important to get ahead of the risk rather than leave the company functional. Meanwhile zero consideration for how leaving a gaping hole in work processes ends up compromising security because people end up having to do weird poo poo to cover the gaps. There should be balance between security vs leaving the role in a functional spot, maybe reduced access for employees during their final weeks, etc - but doing that would require the various departments of places working together and lol on that.
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The two managers I interact with the most, the one right above me (A) and the one above him (B), are the WORST when it comes to both micro-managing, AND not being observant of the most recent developments in the issues they're trying to micromanage. Example: An email will come in to our department's mailing list, or maybe one/both of them is just CC'd on an email about an issue. It might not even be a pressing issue, could just be some user (who, BTW, is also bypassing the ticketing process by emailing us, and the official policy is that we we are SUPPOSED to tell them to submit a ticket or call the help line, but that's another issue) having a minor problem, like Printer 123 isn't working for them, but 456 is ok, so not a huge priority. There might even be some back and forth Replay All emails to the user, and we fix the problem, and she even sends a "Thanks, everyone!" email. Well, then Manager A and B finally get done a meeting they had and back to their desks, and the same sequence of events ALWAYS happens: B sees the first email. Doesn't remotely bother to check that we've replied and even fixed it, just immediately blasts out a reply (which means he ALSO has to ignore the diaglue box from Outlook telling him he's not replying to the most recent email in the chain): "We are on top of this, Megan! Someone from Desktop support, please contact Megan ASAP!" Then A, who sits right next to me, sees B's email reply first before he also sees any of the preceeding conversations (I assume he has a rule where emails from Manger B always get priority or go to a folder marked "Read this right away!") and will wheel his chair over and tell me to go help Megan right away! B asked about it, and the first email was an hour agho, and it's top priority. And, time after time, I tell A we fixed it already, it's even in the email chain, and we post-facto made a ticket and closed it. I need to gain access to their Outlook and switch it to Conversation View. Use Conversation View, people! At least if you're the type to frequently miss the most recent email in a chain.
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zedprime posted:Except for really specific intersections of regulatory requirements and previous problems with the employee it's now an officially bad practice because every CMS, CRM, HRM etc. have fairly easy to use data loss prevention tattletales that can be interfaced and turned on when termination is commenced in an HRM. Anyone doing it is too lazy to figure out how to turn it on and manage the alarm tickets. You can then extra test it by HR accidentally offboarding the CFO by doing god knows what. Nuking all her accounts, privileges etc, all good fun. We only even heard of it because she very quiet ninja mousy asked for some temp reporting access while it all got worked out.
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The safety team and the engineering team are now actively at odds to the point the engineers are essentially on strike  Safety rolled out a really robust working from heights protocol with no warning and in it contained the language that all attachment points for fall protection must tested for a 5000lb load. Engineering points out that none of our attachment points meet this standard (this place was built in 1984) Safety says all work at heights must stop until engineering tests all attachment points (we're on a 20 acre complex, this would take...months) Meanwhile the AC in the engineering office is out and they can't get the HVAC fixed because the unit is on the roof within 6 feet of the edge and safety declared it to be impossible to safely repair I suspect the safety office is going to get their power cut
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Barudak posted:Lmao indeed Well, at least the new Yakuza boss for the kinder, gentler Yakuza only fires you from your job, not from life.
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tactlessbastard posted:The safety team and the engineering team are now actively at odds to the point the engineers are essentially on strike Well, the 10 hour OSHA training I went through a couple of months ago finally comes in handy! The fall protection attachment point 5000lb load is OSHA standard 29 CFR 1910.140(c)(13) https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/regulations/standardnumber/1910/1910.140 They don't have to be tested, just designed to support 5000lbs. tactlessbastard posted:... Meanwhile the AC in the engineering office is out and they can't get the HVAC fixed because the unit is on the roof within 6 feet of the edge and safety declared it to be impossible to safely repair... PFAS, lift, or scaffold per 29 CFR 1926.501
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skrapp mettle posted:Well, the 10 hour OSHA training I went through a couple of months ago finally comes in handy! The fall protection attachment point 5000lb load is OSHA standard 29 CFR 1910.140(c)(13) Oh, I know that, and the engineers know that. I’d go so far as to say going around applying 5000lbs of force to girders has a certain amount of safety risk to it, but here we are.
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OwlFancier posted:How heavy are your engineers? These are goon-class engineers!
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Sorry for lack of full details, I'm not on the A/V team so hearing this from them: Company upgraded a bunch of AV stuff for their main presentation room. It already had multiple cameras, projectors, decent sound system, etc... so this was more a "back end" upgrade on the stuff "running the show", so to speak. Well, they now discovered that the new equipment they have recognizes that they're broadcasting the meetings/presentations to multiple locations (Zoom to both WFH people and the company's other physical building) and, as a result, they can't play licensed music anymore. It knows it's being streamed and refuses to send the audio. This was discovered for the first time during a BIG meeting with CEO and board of directors. It wasn't found during the dry run-through because that was local-only, they weren't doing any testing of the Zoom stream then, just the local multimedia aspect.
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OwlFancier posted:How heavy are your engineers? TotalLossBrain posted:These are goon-class engineers! ... How heavy was Grover? 
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Volmarias posted:... How heavy was Grover? Did Grover finally die in his own house? I was away for a while. Also it's review time here so I should be poised to get a decent raise. A while back I pitched a new security system for work because we were paying multiple companies to do a poo poo job of things, so I found a company that does all in one and goes way above and beyond. Ownership gave me the green light to get it. In doing the walkthrough with the sales rep on what equipment we're going to need and where to put it, the topic of installation came up. My boss quickly piped up that the installation would be done by me and another guy here rather than paying a company to do it. It may surprise you to know that I'm not a security system installer. Nonetheless, myself and the other guy devoted our weekends to getting everything installed and took extra time to clean up the mess that is the network wiring in this building. We're done for now and ultimately saved the company about $25k. Best believe I'm bringing that poo poo up.
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Combo posted:Did Grover finally die in his own house? I was away for a while. Would not the time to bring it up have been BEFORE you did it? How much work that's not yours to do did you just do for free? Your only reward here is going to be more work that falls outside of the scope of your job. Hope you left some sort of hidden cutoff switch on that you can trigger right before you quit. You're not a security system installer, if it breaks well???
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im with desert bus here on this one. oh you want me to install a thingy that is not my literal job to save you more money huh on top of the money its already saving by coming up with the idea for you? yeah i'll get right on that after lunch. 
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DrBouvenstein posted:Sorry for lack of full details, I'm not on the A/V team so hearing this from them: That is hilarious. I wonder what product is doing audio fingerprinting like that live, and if you can flag streams to show you have broadcast rights.
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tactlessbastard posted:The safety team and the engineering team are now actively at odds to the point the engineers are essentially on strike I worked for an aerospace company that had thousands of pieces of lifting hardware; shackles, turnbuckles, straps, hoist rings, swivel rings, and hooks. For some ungodly reason years ago they decided calibration techs (I was one of them when I worked there, just not years ago) had to do the annual inspection on all of them to make sure they weren't cracked or damaged. I would say whoever pawned that off on us was a genius, but I think it was actually some dipshit previous manager of our department who decided we didn't have enough work. Fast forward a few years and the company now has over 20000 items to calibrate and those drat pieces of lifting hardware cost us about two people doing it full time when we needed two people doing actual calibratable items. At some point they also decided everything needed a proof load test, and we had hundreds of items that just didn't have anything, so here we are sending a couple hundred items out to a vendor to get them proof loaded when we'd been using some of them for 25+ years. I get the logic behind that decision, but why wasn't that a requirement from the beginning? All in all, gently caress lifting hardware. I was so salty when we had to do them. Great for numbers but also a huge waste of our time
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Desert Bus posted:Would not the time to bring it up have been BEFORE you did it? How much work that's not yours to do did you just do for free? Your only reward here is going to be more work that falls outside of the scope of your job. I've posted about my workplace here a decent amount, poo poo like this is annoying but falls more under the "don't attribute to malice what can be attributed to stupidity" kind of thing. My boss (the owner of the company) knows he's got a good, devoted core of people helping him run things but just assumes sometimes that we all love doing it just as much as he does. So when I get to sit down with him and go through things he'll make it right probably not many questions asked. He's just an engineer who likes to create/come up with things and would much rather be the dude making not much but traveling the country on one of our service crews than run the company. Once i point out how much effort it was he'll come around, he always does, it's just annoying. I guess I learned a new skill in the process and made things easier on myself on any new building network install poo poo (even though that's not really my job either, I hired an IT company to manage that mostly).
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This one is partially my fault. I had to load test some switching equipment for high volumes of data and telephony traffic. Heat chambers and everything. The requirement was for a 90% capacity load. I thought that was shortsighted. I read through the product specs and spoke with one of the hardware engineers and a software person and they both told me it could easily handle 150% of the spec. So I set up the test to run at 110% of the spec thinking this would be really good to prove. It passed hundreds of iteration of testing over a couple days. I write up a short summary and take it to my boss and when he reads the 110% number he gets hugely pissed off. "It was suppose to be at 90%!!!!". Um, yeah, but if it works at 110% it will probably be fine at 90%, thus we have proven our product operates better than advertised! That did not fly. I had to reset the test beds to run at 90% for the next two days. I had no other tasks, so I basically showed up in the morning, check the test logs, checked them in the afternoon, and sat in my stupid cubicle surfing the net, playing minesweeper, etc, then one more check and leave by 3 pm. I turned in my new one page report and the boss was all, "Great! This is great! Thanks for doing it right." K, whatever. I shared the story with the hardware engineer a few days later and he couldn't stop laughing for a couple of minutes.
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Combo posted:Basically yes if you are ok with it and feel square at the end of the day good for you, ive done enough of going the extra mile and watching folks get bled out for pennies so i tend to make sure that doesnt happen to me again or any of my collegues.
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I have to keep convincing my part time colleague to actually leave on time. She will be meant to finish at 3pm and I will find her online at 3 45 still working away In one way it makes my life easier if she does all this free labour as it reduces my workload, but I can't in good conscience knowingly let her do it! Also it makes higher ups think that less people are needed because look how much is possible in only 15 hours!! If the company is paying you for 15 hours (or whatever) then that is what you should do. No more, although maybe slightly less.
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thank the gently caress out of you for that perspective. it diminishes the people who put in the work and devalues everyone because well bill from accounting works 15 hours of overtime a week and doesnt put it on his paycheck, never takes vacations and is available 24/7/365 by phone why dont you do that
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Chewbecca posted:I have to keep convincing my part time colleague to actually leave on time. She will be meant to finish at 3pm and I will find her online at 3 45 still working away Depending on where you are, that may also be breaking labor laws and/or company policy. I can imagine someone in a hr department getting very upset at that.
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ponzicar posted:Depending on where you are, that may also be breaking labor laws and/or company policy. I can imagine someone in a hr department getting very upset at that. I'm in Australia so, I'm not sure which laws are relevant exactly. The thing is she is doing this without being asked, which is different to being directed to do it - which the company would never do. She obviously feels pressured to work extra hours to get everything done, but I've told her that if things need to fall apart so be it, it's not her job to prop up an entire company. There are people paid a lot more than us who need to solve that problem. Companies often rely too much on the good will of people donating their labour. Won't be me. TehRedWheelbarrow posted:thank the gently caress out of you for that perspective. it diminishes the people who put in the work and devalues everyone because well bill from accounting works 15 hours of overtime a week and doesnt put it on his paycheck, never takes vacations and is available 24/7/365 by phone why dont you do that My solidarity is to the worker always and not the company. By loving over yourself you also gently caress over the rest of us. I really hope I can impress this on her!
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Chewbecca posted:I'm in Australia so, I'm not sure which laws are relevant exactly. The thing is she is doing this without being asked, which is different to being directed to do it - which the company would never do. She obviously feels pressured to work extra hours to get everything done, but I've told her that if things need to fall apart so be it, it's not her job to prop up an entire company. There are people paid a lot more than us who need to solve that problem. When I trained people at Amazon this was one of the big lessons I tried to teach anyone who made it beyond basic box packing drone. If you moved up to a technical role with responsibilities I taught more than a few people that they had to just let things fail if they wanted a hosed situation to get any better. Obviously do your reasonable best but don't stress yourself out, or worse physically hurt yourself, going above and beyond. Recognize when you were set up for failure, let it crash and let it burn.
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