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The thing is though, it really isn't that long. Especially compared to how much TV people, and probably your friends, already watch. It's about ~42 hours of show. Nothing to sneeze at, especially for an anime series, but people binge watch longer poo poo all the time. Breaking Bad is around 20 hours longer than LoGH (also a show considered to have a short-ish run for a Drama). 30 Rock had 28 more episodes than LoGH. And there are a lot of people who have watched those shows completely. I guess reading subtitles might wear some people out more than a normal show, if they don't read much or something like that. But for most it shouldn't make a show much tougher to watch. Each episode being only 20-21 minutes long also helps the time fly by, and the show easier to digest by virtue of being in smaller pieces. So yeah, it's nothing your average Netflix viewer these days can't handle easily just like they do with their favorite shows all the time. The "it's too long" excuse really doesn't make much sense when you think about it. Damo fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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Damo posted:The thing is though, it really isn't that long. Especially compared to how much TV people, and probably your friends, already watch. 110 episodes over 4 30 ish epsiode seasons just feels alot longer to people used to 13 or 10 episode seasons even if it is actually shorter. It doesn't help that while Breaking Bad has what? 15 characters whose name you have to remember, LoGH can have hundreds, which will put off most more causal watchers and people who don't binge.
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Oct 1, 2014 08:25
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Gaius Marius posted:Anyway, maybe I should throw on an episode...it has been about 2 weeks since I saw the last one... (I love reading posts from people early in the series)
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Oct 1, 2014 08:39
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LOGH is one of the best things I've ever seen, but it doesn't ruin everything in the future because, frankly, there's not a whole lot like it. Ultrapolitical space operas aren't exactly being churned out every year, it is thankfully of a rare breed because it would probably sour outlooks on other series if it was, say, as good as it is but a Shonen series. Although in that case there's a good example of that currently running in the form of One Piece, which manages to be Shonen while having incredible pacing, consistency, drama, backstory, character variety, and action while having run for almost two decades with basically no filler (anime version notwithstanding). It has certainly ruined the chances of other series at keeping my attention for very long.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:04
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Also since most people can't understand Japanese you actually have to pay attention to the subs and whats on the TV. This runs completely contrary to the viewing habits of most modern people. Just look at the average TVIV thread to see just how little people actually watch tv nowadays instead of being glued to their drat iPads so they can tell everyone about what they just "watched".
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Oct 1, 2014 09:27
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Any time I watched something with my sister, she'd be glued to her phone and couldn't put it down and would be texting during important scenes of whatever we'd watch. We don't watch things anymore. But yeah, this show is one of the best TV shows I've seen (not just anime), and I've seen more TV than most people. That's the thing too, having seen as much TV as I have, there is hardly anything you can compare it to. The closest I can think of off the top of my head is Code Geass, but that's not nearly as good as this show. I'm just surprised that it could afford to be in production for so long. Does this show have a huge Japanese audience? Cause evidently most people haven't heard of this show here.
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Oct 1, 2014 09:50
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Cubemario posted:Any time I watched something with my sister, she'd be glued to her phone and couldn't put it down and would be texting during important scenes of whatever we'd watch. We don't watch things anymore. LOGH was animated in the 80s and even now there's still a pretty big fan base in Japan. The books have sold millions of copies and the show ran for about 10 years riding on that popularity. More modern and popular shows like Code Geass or Death Note openly draw a lot from LOGH but the problem with LOGH is that its too big and old to be brought out of Japan. That and the franchise owners never seemed like they wanted to monopolise it. From memory I think they priced the blu ray release at around $800USD for the whole series making it completely inaccessible to any new fans and the only official subs released were in French. Things are looking up with the remake though.
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I'd say Game of Thrones is the closest TV show I've seen to it, although that's obviously in a different genre. In terms of anime Space Battleship Yamato has some political space opera elements, and it's highly likely that it provided some inspiration for LotGH.
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Oct 1, 2014 13:36
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TheKingofSprings posted:What's been the experience for posters in this thread wrt getting people to watch the show? I tried getting some of my anime watching friends to check it out and they pretty much hated it. The first movie got all of them to stop but one, who watched the second movie after I talked him into it and then stopped after that. I got an ex that pretty much would not watch anime full stop to watch like 50 episodes of it . We probably would have finished if we'd, you know, stayed together. She was deeply invested in space bros Reinhard and Kirchiess, Yang and Dusty
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Oct 1, 2014 14:10
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DamnGlitch posted:I got an ex that pretty much would not watch anime full stop to watch like 50 episodes of it . We probably would have finished if we'd, you know, stayed together. She was deeply invested in space bros Reinhard and Kirchiess, Yang and Dusty Ironically, in episode 51 Yang proposes marriage to Frederica, so Yang ceases to be a space bro who doesn't touch women like the other three. Anyway it's quite an accomplishment, my own attempts to make other people watch this show have failed horribly.
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Oct 1, 2014 14:18
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My roommate is pretty chill, but he hates most anime, for totally valid reasons. I showed him this show though, and now he's hooked  Mission accomplished
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Oct 1, 2014 14:27
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'd say Game of Thrones is the closest TV show I've seen to it, although that's obviously in a different genre. Yeah Game of Thrones is the comparison I usually make too, except in space and actually well written instead of being a train wreck of shocking twists
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Oct 1, 2014 14:40
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Cubemario posted:Any time I watched something with my sister, she'd be glued to her phone and couldn't put it down and would be texting during important scenes of whatever we'd watch. We don't watch things anymore. This was my experience trying to get my brother into the show. He had to ask me what happened every 5 minutes since he wouldn't stop playing with his phone. Simply summarizing the plot doesn't do justice to the show since the beauty is in the characters and their interactions.
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Oct 1, 2014 18:28
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If you find political drama and theory interesting, you'll like LoGH. If you think that sort of stuff is dull, you'll have trouble getting through it. I'm an enthusiastic reader of political theory, and LoGH was therefore perfect for me. I suspect I would have to go to great difficulty to get most people I know to watch it, especially considering the fact that it's a cartoon. The idea of a cartoon detailing a serious political drama is a somewhat bizarre or unthinkable idea in the West. There really aren't any points of comparison as far as animated shows go.
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Oct 1, 2014 23:27
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I'd say Game of Thrones is the closest TV show I've seen to it, although that's obviously in a different genre. Aren't they both based on the war of the roses?
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TheKingofSprings posted:What's been the experience for posters in this thread wrt getting people to watch the show? I tried getting some of my anime watching friends to check it out and they pretty much hated it. The first movie got all of them to stop but one, who watched the second movie after I talked him into it and then stopped after that. If they don't find the movies interesting, I think it's probably not for them. I mean, the first film is a pretty accurate reflection of the series to come, with higher production values. Not all people are interested in all things, c'est la vie even in cases like this.
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Cloks posted:Aren't they both based on the war of the roses? Game of Thrones draws from the War of the Roses but LOGH seems to cover a much bigger story. The closest thing to a tv show it has is probably a historical documentary of the world (complete with unreliable narrator) during a time of great upheaval and change or a visual retelling of Gibbon's The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire. If you like history, space operas and politics, then LOGH is going to suit you just fine.
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Oct 2, 2014 03:53
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Reinhardt always struck me as basically a composite of Alexander the Great, Julius and Augustus Caesar, Napoleon, Frederick the Great, and similar historical figures. He's his own character but has elements of all of them too.
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Despite the Western gloss, LoGH is pretty explicitly based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms. It's not an outright remake but definitely a space-themed remix. Yang is Zhuge Liang, Reinhard is Cao Cao, etc. The scene where Minister Silverbirch falls ill and his second-in-command can't keep up with his workload and resigns, only to have Reinhard tell him that if he were as good as Silverbirch then he wouldn't be second-in-command is one of many scenes that are near-direct lifts from parables in RoTK. This (and the character of Yang) makes a lot more sense when you realize that the author of the books is a gigantic Chinese history nerd (check out his bibliography).
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Oct 2, 2014 06:38
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Elotana posted:Despite the Western gloss, LoGH is pretty explicitly based on Romance of the Three Kingdoms. It's not an outright remake but definitely a space-themed remix. Yang is Zhuge Liang, Reinhard is Cao Cao, etc. The scene where Minister Silverbirch falls ill and his second-in-command can't keep up with his workload and resigns, only to have Reinhard tell him that if he were as good as Silverbirch then he wouldn't be second-in-command is one of many scenes that are near-direct lifts from parables in RoTK. This (and the character of Yang) makes a lot more sense when you realize that the author of the books is a gigantic Chinese history nerd (check out his bibliography). I was just going to post this. I'm sure there's a ton of other things based on Chinese history that western fans just don't realize because of the lack of Chinese history education in the west. Although if you wanna compare Reinhard to one western figure I'd say it's Augustus. They both gained power first through Familial connections and then from their own skill. Remade the entire political and social landscape of their empires, and both had best friends that were extremely skilled and loyal to back them up. The only difference is Kircheis died while Agrippa survived for quite a while into Augustus's reign.
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Out of curiosity, has anyone here read the original novels? How were they?
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I just watched 43 episodes of this show (thanks goons) and its pretty great but I still keep expecting this Adrian Rubinsky fucker to put on purple and green Kryptonite-powered robot armor and try to block out the rays of Earth's yellow sun.
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Omnomnomnivore posted:I just watched 43 episodes of this show (thanks goons) and its pretty great but I still keep expecting this Adrian Rubinsky fucker to put on purple and green Kryptonite-powered robot armor and try to block out the rays of Earth's yellow sun. Keep watching.
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Oct 11, 2014 07:42
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How come most of the time this show looks like this: But then in some shots it looks like this:  Those are both from the same episode and the style difference is very noticeable.
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Oct 16, 2014 14:29
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When it was remastered for DVD some scenes were not usable and had to be re-animated. This bothers a lot of people but personally I think it's a hit worth taking compared to the laserdisc quality.
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Oct 16, 2014 14:32
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It's also a bit more tenable when you've watched the Gaidens, which utilize the same newer-looking style in about 70% of those episodes.
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Oct 16, 2014 18:05
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You can take my Laserdisc LOGH eps when you pry them from my cold dead hard drive.
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Oct 17, 2014 08:48
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aparmenideanmonad posted:You can take my Laserdisc LOGH eps when you pry them from my cold dead hard drive. You can't have mine even then. I burned them to DVDs as well.
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Oct 17, 2014 08:53
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I finally finished watching LoGH as my downtime filler when I was done with other anime I was following last season. Am I the only one that can't help but think that this is basically Michener a la anime?
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Oct 17, 2014 15:41
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People are clearly still watching this show, but nobody seems to be seeding the torrents in the op. What gives?! Actually, it looks like bakabt doesn't allow the use of the latest version of bittorrent... BLARGHLE fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Oct 20, 2014 |
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Oct 20, 2014 18:30
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BLARGHLE posted:People are clearly still watching this show, but nobody seems to be seeding the torrents in the op. What gives?! When I get home tonight I'll grab that and start seeding it for a while. Don't have a super great connection, but every little bit helps, right?
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Oct 20, 2014 19:12
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If you don't care about BD rips (and I'm not sure why you would for this anime), you can get Central Anime's DVD versions here: http://www.nyaa.se/?user=71491&sort=6&order=2 Or you can try to snag the one true version of LOGH here: http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=148995
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Oct 20, 2014 21:26
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aparmenideanmonad posted:If you don't care about BD rips (and I'm not sure why you would for this anime), you can get Central Anime's DVD versions here: http://www.nyaa.se/?user=71491&sort=6&order=2 Thanks, those are downloading properly.
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Oct 21, 2014 02:11
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I'm seeding the 2nd link (LD version) again now if anyone wants it. They still have the corrupt 13th episode in that batch for whatever reason, so get the DVD version from the first torrent I linked. EDIT: At least 4 people have jumped on the LD torrent since I posted the link. I'm going to assume these are all goons who have seen the light.  *sings FPA anthem in the original engrish*
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Oct 21, 2014 05:11
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aparmenideanmonad posted:You can take my Laserdisc LOGH eps when you pry them from my cold dead hard drive. I have to admit I'm rather more partial to the LD originals as well, even with the super wonky designs at times. I'm not sure if it's just the jarring difference in styles or it being my first exposure to it. Hmm.
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Oct 23, 2014 06:50
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In my honest opinion if you get jinkie joinkies over the random changes in animation in the logh 110 epsiode series then you are a seriouus sperglord and need to reevaluate your life choices.
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Oct 23, 2014 07:09
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I'm doing a little rewatching of LoGH, and man, some lines are way harsher when you see them again. "If the time comes, I'll get you to save me." "Yeah, of course I'll protect you." 
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Oct 23, 2014 08:52
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd1sxsJ0zJg&t=5m45s ??? ???
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Hahahaha them funny lil' yella fellers, drawin' cartoons of white folks in space and voicin' them with their rat-scratchy ching chong voices, what a hoot!
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hosed up
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