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UltimoDragonQuest posted:
They interviewed DMX.
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I hope that that once Hillary assumes power in 2016, she denounces Obama in the same vein that Nikita Khrushchev did to Stalin during the former Soviet Union, ushering in a less repressive era in the United States. She'll likely denounce Obama himself, along with the various scandals & abuse of power his administration has been involved in, including PRISM, NSA, IRS, Benghazi, the the AP phones, just to name a few highlights. She's the only politician in the U.S. currently who's had the iron-clad will of denouncing America's terrible healthcare system since the early 1990's, while remaining consistent about it ever since. It's time for some real change in the United States of America, folks. 
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Jul 2, 2013 03:18
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Devour posted:I hope that that once Hillary assumes power in 2016, she denounces Obama in the same vein that Nikita Khrushchev did to Stalin during the former Soviet Union, ushering in a less repressive era in the United States. She'll likely denounce Obama himself, along with the various scandals & abuse of power his administration has been involved in, including PRISM, NSA, IRS, Benghazi, the the AP phones, just to name a few highlights. She's the only politician in the U.S. currently who's had the iron-clad will of denouncing America's terrible healthcare system since the early 1990's, while remaining consistent about it ever since. More likely scenario: she won't and things will stay mostly the same.
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Jul 2, 2013 04:32
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Ammat The Ankh posted:More likely scenario: she won't and things will stay mostly the same. Let the man dream.
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Jul 2, 2013 04:50
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Where does this belief that Hillary Clinton is some sort of True Progressive Champion just waiting to reveal herself come from? She's a hawk and a neo-liberal with a very conventional 1990s New Democrat DLC policy perspective. One of the reasons I supported Obama in the primaries was the possibility that Obama would bring some fresh faces into his administration that weren't just 1990s Clinton retreads of the Ickes/Rubin/Begala/Bowles/Panetta/etc. school. It didn't work out that way (Obama won, and then promptly filled his administration with Clintonites anyway, starting with the Secretary of State herself), but I figured it was worth a shot.
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Jul 2, 2013 04:56
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Ammat The Ankh posted:More likely scenario: she won't and things will stay mostly the same. Most likely scenario: she expands those programs further.
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Jul 2, 2013 04:56
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Guys it was a joke. 
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Jul 2, 2013 05:20
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eSports Chaebol posted:They interviewed DMX. That is literally the worst interview I have ever read. It's exactly what I would expect from DMX.
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Jul 2, 2013 07:40
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FMguru posted:Where does this belief that Hillary Clinton is some sort of True Progressive Champion just waiting to reveal herself come from? She's a hawk and a neo-liberal with a very conventional 1990s New Democrat DLC policy perspective. Exactly. The reasons to not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 will be exatly the same as the reasons not to vote for her in 2008. It just depends what mood the Democratic electorate is in.
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Jul 2, 2013 12:48
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FMguru posted:Where does this belief that Hillary Clinton is some sort of True Progressive Champion just waiting to reveal herself come from? She's a hawk and a neo-liberal with a very conventional 1990s New Democrat DLC policy perspective.
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Jul 2, 2013 17:11
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Ravenfood posted:And at the very least, Obama ran on being a more liberal/progressive candidate than Clinton, who basically ran on a platform that Obama has enacted. They both ran on extremely similar platforms. You can go look them up yourselves. The major differences they stressed in the campaign were about non-policy issues like judgement, character, and "new ideas". The only major policy differences they had in the platform were: 1) Obama was against an individual mandate, Hillary was for it. 2) Obama wanted to repeal 2 sections of DOMA, Hillary wanted to repeal just the federal recognition ban. 3) Hillary was going to bring the troops back from Iraq slightly faster than Obama's time table. 4) Obama's tax plan included a "Making Work Pay" Credit, while Hilary's expanded the Child Tax credit. 5) Both of them had vague education reform messages that were anti-No Child, but generally pro-reform. Obama's focused slightly more on State-level education reforms and had a slightly bigger college tuition tax credit.
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Jul 2, 2013 17:25
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yes, that's part of what I meant. Both Castro and Cruz are new political figures outside of Texas, but for some reason Castro is way over performing his national visibility (Cruz is over performing as well, but to a much smaller degree than Castro). It's just surprising, even notorious self-promoter, frequent national news participant, and fellow mayor Cory Booker is only about half as visible as Castro. Castro also just had a fairly public response for the racist reactions to Sebastian de la Cruz preforming the National Anthem during the NBA finals so that may explain more people knowing who he is and viewing him favorably in a poll taken yesterday when the finals just wrapped up just 11 days before hand.
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Jul 3, 2013 00:07
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:They both ran on extremely similar platforms. You can go look them up yourselves. The major differences they stressed in the campaign were about non-policy issues like judgement, character, and "new ideas". Seriously Hillary's hypothetical presidency is just Obama's except more overtly hawkish and instead of racism,it's sexism and instead of secret Muslim black panthers it's radical misandrist feminazi's. Now what we don't know is if the Republicans are going to continue the socialist commie nazi line of attack or complain about NAFTA.
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Jul 3, 2013 03:31
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So it looks like Drudge has a new golden boy, he doesn't choose complimentary photos for just anyone. I really can't see him running again, but maybe for Senator? I dunno, I'm hard pressed to find anyone that like Perry in Texas, but they certainly exist as he kept winning. SirKibbles posted:I"m wondering how sane the republican primaries are going to make Rubio look? Bolton and Can you imagine how great it would be to have Bolton, Gingrich, Christie, and Perry on the same stage?
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Jul 3, 2013 16:36
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man this is going to be glorious.On another note Cuomo hopefully won't get anywhere near the Democratic nomination.
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Sir Tonk posted:Can you imagine how great it would be to have Bolton, Gingrich, Christie, and Perry on the same stage? Fire codes don't allow that much ego in one enclosed space, so you'd need to hold the debate outside.
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Jul 3, 2013 17:45
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Sir Tonk posted:So it looks like Drudge has a new golden boy, he doesn't choose complimentary photos for just anyone. I suspect that would result in this finally coming to pass.
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Jul 3, 2013 18:30
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Yes, that's part of what I meant. Both Castro and Cruz are new political figures outside of Texas, but for some reason Castro is way over performing his national visibility (Cruz is over performing as well, but to a much smaller degree than Castro). It's just surprising, even notorious self-promoter, frequent national news participant, and fellow mayor Cory Booker is only about half as visible as Castro. A Winner is Jew posted:Castro also just had a fairly public response for the racist reactions to Sebastian de la Cruz preforming the National Anthem during the NBA finals so that may explain more people knowing who he is and viewing him favorably in a poll taken yesterday when the finals just wrapped up just 11 days before hand. That's a good observation. I also see similarities with the Obama v. Keyes 2004 race. Maybe I'm making too many assumptions here, but I would think that the average Latino voter is going to be more interested in and favorable towards the guy with good ideas and a strong public character versus the obstructionist smarmy conspiracy theorist shithead. Although now I find myself comparing Ted Cruz to Alan Keyes and my body physically hurts.
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Syjefroi posted:That's a good observation. I also see similarities with the Obama v. Keyes 2004 race. Maybe I'm making too many assumptions here, but I would think that the average Latino voter is going to be more interested in and favorable towards the guy with good ideas and a strong public character versus the obstructionist smarmy conspiracy theorist shithead. Although now I find myself comparing Ted Cruz to Alan Keyes and my body physically hurts. It's not even about being favorably dispositioned or not. It's just that so many people know him and have strong enough feelings to express an opinion on him, even those who are not politically tuned in. Just seems weird when he has had extremely limited national coverage, governs a small geographic area at the local level, and yet is significantly more visible than almost all the other Latino politicians in relative terms and way more visible than all the other mayors posted. Also in other sort of 2016 news: Justice Ginsburg says she will resist liberal pressure to retire and is staying on the bench past 2016. http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/justice-ginsburg-wont-bow-to-liberal-pressure-to?ref=fpb
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Quasimango posted:Exactly. The reasons to not vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016 will be exatly the same as the reasons not to vote for her in 2008. It just depends what mood the Democratic electorate is in. Because you want a Republican in the White House? Let's be honest: Hillary will the nominee if she wants to be. And it turns out that most of the reason people voted against her in 2008 were pretty loving bad. SirKibbles posted:Seriously Hillary's hypothetical presidency is just Obama's except more overtly hawkish and instead of racism,it's sexism and instead of secret Muslim black panthers it's radical misandrist feminazi's. Now what we don't know is if the Republicans are going to continue the socialist commie nazi line of attack or complain about NAFTA. The best reason to favor Hillary over Obama was that she knew what assholes the national GOP were full of, it's hard to see Clinton falling all over herself to be "post-partisan". She also seemed to care more about universal healthcare, Obama's plan was always the least far-reaching of the three and the last put out. And a Hillary White House would have been less shamelessly pro-banker.
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The Insect Court posted:The best reason to favor Hillary over Obama was that she knew what assholes the national GOP were full of, it's hard to see Clinton falling all over herself to be "post-partisan". She also seemed to care more about universal healthcare, Obama's plan was always the least far-reaching of the three and the last put out. And a Hillary White House would have been less shamelessly pro-banker. The other reason was simply the experience issue. She knew how the GOP played politically dirty, and I could've seen her actually getting congress to act more too. Could you imagine what Hillary would've done with all that power the democrats had in 2008-10? Seriously, when Obama was trying to appeal to republicans after receiving 10 million more popular votes than McCain while also having control of the House & Senate in 2008-2010, I was like 
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Try as they might the Pauls just can't stop being racist shitheads... Rand Paul aide has history of racial comments  Sen. Rand Paul's New Media Staffer/ghostwriter Jack Hunter in his "Southern Avenger" persona Jack Hunter posted:Americans aren’t wrong to deplore the millions of Mexicans coming here now, A non-white majority America would simply cease to be America for reasons that are as numerous as they are obvious – whether we are supposed to mention them or not. Jack Hunter posted:Not only are whites not afforded the same right to celebrate their own cultural identity – but anything that is considered ‘too white’ is immediately suspect. Jack Hunter posted:John Wilkes Booth’s heart was in the right place
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Jul 10, 2013 21:30
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DynamicSloth posted:Try as they might the Pauls just can't stop being racist shitheads... That last one is correct - Booth's heart was in the right place: in the path of a Union bullet in a burning barn in Virginia. I remain unsurprised that Rand Paul is continuing his father's and his state's legacies of racist bullshit well past their sell-by date.
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Jul 10, 2013 21:39
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The Warszawa posted:That last one is correct - Booth's heart was in the right place: in the path of a Union bullet in a burning barn in Virginia. The apple doesn't fall far from the lynching tree.
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Jul 10, 2013 21:40
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DynamicSloth posted:Try as they might the Pauls just can't stop being racist shitheads... I'm sure he's just miming the success of popular WWE wrestler Jack Swagger and doesn't believe any of it. 
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Jul 10, 2013 22:00
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"I hate everything Mexican... What do you think of my Luchadore mask?"
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Jul 11, 2013 05:34
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deoju posted:"I hate everything Mexican... What do you think of my Luchadore mask?" He's "reclaiming" it, I'm sure.
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Jul 11, 2013 11:59
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The Paul family campaign staff: that group of twenty-somethings who read Watchmen and thought Rorschach was something to aspire to.
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Jul 11, 2013 14:28
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Bicyclops posted:The Paul family campaign staff: that group of twenty-somethings who read Watchmen and thought Rorschach was something to aspire to.
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Jul 11, 2013 15:16
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He's running.quote:“Listen,” [Rick Perry] said. “America’s been a country of second choices.” Did he mean second choices or second chances? “Both,” he said. “Second choices and second chances. . . . If one performance or a series of performances pretty much blackballs you, then it does. But I don’t think that’s what this country’s all about.” Rick Perry doesn't mis-speak, you just misunderstand.
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Jul 15, 2013 20:46
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Joementum posted:He's running. Rick Perry is seriously as dumb as Ralph Wiggum. http://youtu.be/8iSD9lPVY6Q?t=11s
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Jul 15, 2013 20:50
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Joementum posted:He's running. "I firmly believe that red-blooded Americans will look deep into their hearts, examine my record, and proudly exclaim 'enh, we'd like someone a little bit better but I guess we'll settle for him if there's no one else.'"
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Jul 15, 2013 20:51
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The thing I never could understand about "Oops" was that if you honestly blank out and forget the third department, why wouldn't you just pick any goddamn Cabinet department at random? Literally anything you can think of. It's not like the rest of the GOP primary debate field was going to chew him out for wanting to eliminate, say, Interior or Commerce or HUD. The obvious answer here, of course, is that he very likely did not know any of the Cabinet departments beyond the two he could recall having been coached to list. Edit: vvvv Man, that is even worse than I remembered. I wouldn't have thought it possible for me to feel social embarrassment on behalf of Rick loving Perry, but there you go. I've certainly been on stage giving a talk, only to lose it altogether in one of those weird neurological glitches. Just total blankout and panic. vvvv mdemone fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jul 15, 2013 |
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He almost did that! Romney tried to help him out and suggested the EPA, which Perry repeated and looked back at the moderator who asked him if he really did mean the EPA, which Perry then replied that he did not and then said, "Oops". The reason being that he was high on painkillers. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uvmKnFY4uk Joementum fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jul 15, 2013 |
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Jul 15, 2013 20:59
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It's possible that might work in his favor on a second go-round. Everyone will be expecting a buffoon, and he may just surprise them.
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Has Rick Perry done anything to suggest that he isn't a buffoon?
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Jul 15, 2013 21:13
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TheBalor posted:It's possible that might work in his favor on a second go-round. Everyone will be expecting a buffoon, and he may just surprise them. I sure hope not. If he had a second go-around, the opposition would just play the sound-bite of him saying "Oops" for nine months straight. It'd be irritating beyond belief.
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Jul 15, 2013 21:18
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Livingtrope posted:Has Rick Perry done anything to suggest that he isn't a buffoon? Supposedly he's a very slick operator at the state level, despite the relative weakness of the Governorship in Texas compared to other states. In this argument, to the strength of which I can't attest as I don't know Texas politics beyond the very superficial level ("is generally horrible"), his main problem is he and his team have not, and perhaps can not, find a way to scale that to national campaigning. And also he was tripping balls on pain pills during that debate which surely didn't help.
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Jul 15, 2013 21:33
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Joementum posted:He almost did that! Romney tried to help him out and suggested the EPA, which Perry repeated and looked back at the moderator who asked him if he really did mean the EPA, which Perry then replied that he did not and then said, "Oops". The best part is still Ron Paul forming a claw and shouting "FIVE!!!!"
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Jul 15, 2013 22:50
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Livingtrope posted:Has Rick Perry done anything to suggest that he isn't a buffoon? Here is a topical hateboner courtesy of Matt Taibbi: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/rick-perry-the-best-little-whore-in-texas-20111026
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Let's be a little fair here: it's entirely possible Rick Perry will be the least insane and most GOP-electable person in the 2016 GOP field.
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