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Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Minto Took posted:

Depends on the power amp circuit. Some amps can run a higher ohm load no problem while others expect a specific load.

Their site says:

Boss posted:

The Katana-Head’s speaker out supports connection to your favorite 8-ohm or 16-ohm cabinet.

So I am assuming the amp circuit will be okay with it.

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Tad Naff
Jul 8, 2004

I told you you'd be sorry buying an emoticon, but no, you were hung over. Well look at you now. It's not catching on at all!
:backtowork:
So I just walked out of a jam I was invited to. I feel kind of bad about it but when you have one drum, one bass, and seven or so guitars of varying skill what are you going to do as second worst (I was invited by worst, who actually played). As a mid 40s reentrant into the world of guitar I know there is much value to be had playing with other people, but as a natural introvert I also need to grok each person as individuals. Sorry this probably belongs in a sadbrains thread, but I miss my 2 person garage band from 1986 when everything kind of flowed.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Tad Naff posted:

I feel kind of bad about it but when you have one drum, one bass, and seven or so guitars of varying skill what are you going to do

listen to more glenn branca

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
My local guitar shop has an LTD WA-600 for $350. It's a great price on what would be exactly the guitar I want except... well, just look at the loving thing:

No way in hell am I ever strapping that on.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Tad Naff posted:

So I just walked out of a jam I was invited to. I feel kind of bad about it but when you have one drum, one bass, and seven or so guitars of varying skill what are you going to do as second worst (I was invited by worst, who actually played). As a mid 40s reentrant into the world of guitar I know there is much value to be had playing with other people, but as a natural introvert I also need to grok each person as individuals. Sorry this probably belongs in a sadbrains thread, but I miss my 2 person garage band from 1986 when everything kind of flowed.

Man, don’t worry about that kind of thing. It’s nothing. Doesn’t matter and won’t ever matter. Forget about it and move forward with your playing. If you want to jam again I wouldn’t go into it with any bad expectations. Just do it, jump in and play and if it goes awkward pack up, learn the cause of it, and move on.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino
I had one so bad the other day I paid the full room fee for the night within an hour of being there just to get it over with. He'd paid £35 for his drum kit, the kick had no feet, he had no crash and the hi hat had no choke. He was stoned off his rear end and giggling like Butthead the whole time. We went for a cigarette and he sighs loudly "music is a lot of motivation innit?" As I'd not met this guy before and there were supposed to be others coming who I also didn't know I bought the shittest guitar and multifx pedal I have just in case so there was no point keeping the room to myself after he'd gone.

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

poo poo, just read Malcom Young died.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/malcolm-young-acdc-guitarist-and-co-founder-dead-at-64/

quote:

"He leaves behind an enormous legacy that will live on forever," the band said. "Malcolm, job well done."

:unsmith:

betterinsodapop
Apr 4, 2004

64:3
RIP Malcolm Young.

Messed around w/ TonePrint on the Sub'n'Up today. First time using the "beam to pedal" feature. Holy poo poo, that is some science fiction poo poo. Really cool stuff.

Clayton Bigsby
Apr 17, 2005

Just found this gem on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6uXGSTfz_4

Three solid guitar players soloing over the best gypsy jazz piece ever written. Ear porn.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Clayton Bigsby posted:

Just found this gem on YT:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6uXGSTfz_4

Three solid guitar players soloing over the best gypsy jazz piece ever written. Ear porn.

That was a lot more arepggio sweeps and overal shredding than I expected for those grandpas guitars, holy poo poo.

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!

NonzeroCircle posted:

We went for a cigarette and he sighs loudly "music is a lot of motivation innit?"

*eye roll* yes, yes it is

I kind of feel that the shift from seeing "the craft" as a technical skill to an expresssion of my creativity has not helped some of my musician friends at all. It's frustrating jamming with people who keep repeating the same mistakes and showcasing the same flaws month after month

they always have a million plans for jamming and performing but aren't able to lock down the effort needed to say, play one song competently in front of people

I'm not asking for virtuosos, but it'd be nice to make something that sounds pleasant...at any rate these days I favor guitar plus voice simply because you're a complete ensemble yourself. Oh god I'm gonna be one of those insane one man band acts as I age aren't I?

that'd be cool as heck

KingSlime fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Nov 18, 2017

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
Perfect for punk music, which is never played well

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Spanish Manlove posted:

That was a lot more arepggio sweeps and overal shredding than I expected for those grandpas guitars, holy poo poo.

Please, these scrubs don't even have half their fretting fingers destroyed by a fire.

NonzeroCircle
Apr 12, 2010

El Camino

KingSlime posted:

*eye roll* yes, yes it is

I kind of feel that the shift from seeing "the craft" as a technical skill to an expresssion of my creativity has not helped some of my musician friends at all. It's frustrating jamming with people who keep repeating the same mistakes and showcasing the same flaws month after month

they always have a million plans for jamming and performing but aren't able to lock down the effort needed to say, play one song competently in front of people

I'm not asking for virtuosos, but it'd be nice to make something that sounds pleasant...at any rate these days I favor guitar plus voice simply because you're a complete ensemble yourself. Oh god I'm gonna be one of those insane one man band acts as I age aren't I?

that'd be cool as heck

Playing with him really cemented to me how odd my playing is (at least in terms of how my influences coagulate) so at least I got that out of it. I'm determined to play guitar in my next band purely on the basis of I have played drums and bass in bands before.

I'd rather have a solid 4 songs at the end of, say, six months jamming with others than 27 half finished ideas for sure.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

Spanish Manlove posted:

That was a lot more arepggio sweeps and overal shredding than I expected for those grandpas guitars, holy poo poo.

gypsy jazz picking technique is a weird combo of downward rest strokes that basically looks like sweep picking

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!

NonzeroCircle posted:

I'd rather have a solid 4 songs at the end of, say, six months jamming with others than 27 half finished ideas for sure.

Same, and I think as we get more comfortable with our instruments we sometimes forget just how many hours you need to put into a single song for the execution to be consistently good and "professional". It's kinda grueling I think

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

KingSlime posted:

*eye roll* yes, yes it is

I kind of feel that the shift from seeing "the craft" as a technical skill to an expresssion of my creativity has not helped some of my musician friends at all. It's frustrating jamming with people who keep repeating the same mistakes and showcasing the same flaws month after month

they always have a million plans for jamming and performing but aren't able to lock down the effort needed to say, play one song competently in front of people.

An anecdote: I'm on a music forum and about two years ago someone suggested we collaborate on the internet to do some covers of one band's album. I put days into doing the bass lines of them all and put them up, and exactly nothing happened because the guy who suggested it disappeared for six months and everyone else just went uh i dunno. Then he returned but still did nothing and there it lies, about 15 pages of nothing.

Fast-forward to this year and another thread starts up about doing something similar but maybe do an original song. 10 pages of discussion goes by and I'm seeing a similar pattern emerge but I put my foot down and say, Right here's a bassline, here's a click track, here's the audacity project, let's see some contributions. For a while nothing happens but then at last someone contributes drums and suddenly everyone wants to add things, I add some vocals (I could see that might be a show-stopper), and take on mixing duties and something is emerging that's not half bad. Then about 3 pages later one of them whines about how this is really doing what that other thread was doing and shouldn't we be doing something original? *facepalm*

With my best diplomatic skills I point out that that project is dead because no one could get organised and doing this gives us a process for collaborating and finding out who can do what and people who felt inhibited from doing an original feel safer with contributing to something they feel they know about. Thankfully he takes the point.

I've played in a few bands and almost always someone (not always me thank gently caress) has to take responsibility and organise things. You just have to accept that's how it will be if you think it's worth it and if it isn't, RUN A MILE because some people will never get off their butts. And if you can't organise yourself to learn an instrument, that's usually a clear sign you won't be much of a contributor to anything musical.

Oh god that was a rant, sorry.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

KingSlime posted:

*eye roll* yes, yes it is

I kind of feel that the shift from seeing "the craft" as a technical skill to an expresssion of my creativity has not helped some of my musician friends at all. It's frustrating jamming with people who keep repeating the same mistakes and showcasing the same flaws month after month

they always have a million plans for jamming and performing but aren't able to lock down the effort needed to say, play one song competently in front of people

I'm not asking for virtuosos, but it'd be nice to make something that sounds pleasant...at any rate these days I favor guitar plus voice simply because you're a complete ensemble yourself. Oh god I'm gonna be one of those insane one man band acts as I age aren't I?

that'd be cool as heck

I know and love a friend who never learned a scale. Not one. He played by patterns and his early playing was just flailing around because he could pick very fast and it fooled some people into thinking he knew something about music.

Later on, much later on, he's written a wonderful LP with great drums, keys, bass, vocals, and fantastic rhythm guitar tones and riffs. But then comes guitar solo time and he's trying so hard to up his game... but he's flat-out said he's set in his ways and not willing to practice diatonic scales so he's just all over the place and it hurts to hear that abortion on top of such great hook-driven tunes.

I make a ton of mistakes playing lead, but I have learned to be quick on my feet and resolve any bad notes into good ones so it sounds like an intentional dissonance (most of the time) and I'm the only guitarist in my group of friends who can improvise. I don't know as many scales as my most virtuoso buddy, but I can play freely over a chord progression and my arsenal is this simple: major scale, minor scale, major pentatonic, minor pentatonic (both the same just in a different spot), and dominant pentatonic, with a little whole-tone/half-tone and diminished thrown in when it fits. That's not a lot to learn, but it gives me all the options I need to bend a few ears and not get lost when chords get weird.
I cringe when I hit a bad note but I bend/slide it to something diatonic and suddenly it's like I did it on purpose and I'm playing "outside" when actually I'm just reacting quickly to how lovely I am at being a soloist.

As far as the one man bad thing goes, if I could fingerpick in the style of Buchanan, Atkins, Travis, or Gatton (forget about Tommy Emmanuel) I'd be unstoppable. But I can't, so I'm not. I don't see it happening.

Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Nov 19, 2017

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
Playing in a band is like doing group projects in school where it's always one person having to do everything and a few freeloaders doing as little as possible to skate by, only with a band there's no "i need this project to work or else I fail the class" imperative so everyone gets super lazy. I got tired of being the only one trying to be somewhat professional and serious about music so I gave up on it a long rear end time ago. Hell, I haven't jammed with anyone for more than five years now. I'd rather just load up EZdrummer and play along to some improv tracks I made.

dex_sda
Oct 11, 2012


Maybe the key is to manage expectation. I jam with a couple different groups and as long as I have a proper approach it's fine:

1) my uncle, he's a bluesman who never used a metronome. There's gonna be good notes and fun times singing, but the rhythm isn't gonna be perfect. Just let it slide and feel the music and the booze maaaan
2) band-like thing I accidentally made at work. We have a proper drummer, a proper guitarist and me, who knows he's poo poo enough to just play rhythm. Keep that time tight
3) jam thing that happens with one of my friends. He can only play campfire chords, but he's got great timing. So I show off my solo chops

Don't expect people to be what they're not and you'll be fine

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

I learned I’m a one man band insufferable wannabe virtuoso years ago. Now I embrace it completely.

I would join a death metal project asap though just to smash out some rowdy nonsense

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Spanish Manlove posted:

That was a lot more arepggio sweeps and overal shredding than I expected for those grandpas guitars, holy poo poo.

Gypsy jazz is very technical and has a lot of burning solos. I really want one of those Selmer style guitars too.

The Muppets On PCP posted:

gypsy jazz picking technique is a weird combo of downward rest strokes that basically looks like sweep picking

Traditionally it is a down stroke whenever you switch strings so sweeps fit right into that.

Elector_Nerdlingen
Sep 27, 2004



Lester Shy posted:

Just ordered a cheap DIY Tele kit from eBay. I've never soldered anything, have minimal woodworking experience and can't paint for poo poo, so it should be a nice adventure, and if I completely gently caress it up, at least it was only $60.

Anybody ever done one of these before? Any tips or things you wish you'd known beforehand? I'm spending my time watching wiring, soldering, painting and fretwork tutorials before it arrives, but I imagine most of that knowledge will go out the window once I have a box of assorted parts in my hands.

I know I already answered this, but Pitbull guitars where I buy my kits has just released a how-to-do-everything pdf which might be a useful reference for you: http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Pit%20Bull%20Guitars%20Manual.pdf

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

New Epi G400 Pro:



very impressed with the build, the pickups are a lot better than I expected. Pots are a little scratchy, but that's fixable.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

AlphaDog posted:

I know I already answered this, but Pitbull guitars where I buy my kits has just released a how-to-do-everything pdf which might be a useful reference for you: http://www.pitbullguitars.com/wp-content/uploads/pdf/Pit%20Bull%20Guitars%20Manual.pdf

Thanks, that looks really helpful, bookmarked! Thanks to everybody else who posted tips as well. I'm still waiting on shipping and probably won't get started until after Thanksgiving, so all of your advice is bouncing around in my head for now.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
if you're going to oil finish the neck (which you should), before you do the final sanding, wipe it down with a damp towel, let it dry a little, then sand

the moisture causes broken fibers to rise up and the last sanding makes the surface super smooth

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Wow, these Elixir Light/Heavy coated strings feel amazing. Of course, I've been using $2 Chinese strings for the past decade, so there's not much competition.

Full Collapse
Dec 4, 2002

I’m having a musical crisis. I’m broke as gently caress, so I want to sell my JC-120. Please tell me this is a terrible idea.

rio
Mar 20, 2008

I’ll do the opposite and say to sell it but only if you buy a better amp. They are so heavy and unless you are putting up with weight for tubes then it just isn’t worth it. Yes the chorus is cool but you can get solutions to that which are lighter. They certainly aren’t bad and I really liked the sound I got from mine but a clean solid state sound is not particularly hard to find nowadays for less money and a lighter weight. If you are just selling it to get money and not fund another amp purchase though then you’ll probably regret it if you don’t have an amp that will fill its shoes already.

ewe2
Jul 1, 2009

Minto Took posted:

I’m having a musical crisis. I’m broke as gently caress, so I want to sell my JC-120. Please tell me this is a terrible idea.

They are perfect for reggae. Play reggae with it.

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AMV100FMDYSL
Ibanez is not good at this factory relic thing. No wonder they're 40% off.

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

The Boss HM-2 has turned my Katana into a humming, shrieking feedback monster. The amp's noise gate helps only a little bit. I expected it to be a noisy pedal, but god drat. All dials on the pedal are at maximum, of course.

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
I'm pretty sure I just found my next guitar:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/EC1000SEMGBlk
Unless they sell out in the next week, or I try one out and discover I hate it (I'd be very surprised at this.)

rio
Mar 20, 2008

Anime Reference posted:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/AMV100FMDYSL
Ibanez is not good at this factory relic thing. No wonder they're 40% off.

Holy poo poo. I have a ‘77 Artist 2630 and a ‘77 es-175 lawsuit and they both almost look new except for some binding cracks on the first guitar and hardware oxidation. And a 2000 PM100, which I guess is getting old now that basically looks new. Vintage Ibanez guitars just don’t look like that (at least none that I have seen) - the Poly finishes are super durable. So it is pretty dumb that they are relicing guitars in a way that they would never end up naturally winless someone was just hitting the guitar with a screwdriver over and over again.

I really dislike relicing in general but understand why it is there for people who want it. This just looks really fake and bad though.

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.

rio posted:

Holy poo poo. I have a ‘77 Artist 2630 and a ‘77 es-175 lawsuit and they both almost look new except for some binding cracks on the first guitar and hardware oxidation. And a 2000 PM100, which I guess is getting old now that basically looks new. Vintage Ibanez guitars just don’t look like that (at least none that I have seen) - the Poly finishes are super durable. So it is pretty dumb that they are relicing guitars in a way that they would never end up naturally winless someone was just hitting the guitar with a screwdriver over and over again.

I really dislike relicing in general but understand why it is there for people who want it. This just looks really fake and bad though.

It gets even worse when you look at the other examples of the same model and realize they've all been reliced in literally the same way -- like, the bald patches are all basically the same size and in basically the same spot.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Spatulater bro! posted:

The Boss HM-2 has turned my Katana into a humming, shrieking feedback monster. The amp's noise gate helps only a little bit. I expected it to be a noisy pedal, but god drat. All dials on the pedal are at maximum, of course.

Just curious are you using a model inside the amp or the actual pedal?

Spatulater bro!
Aug 19, 2003

Punch! Punch! Punch!

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

Just curious are you using a model inside the amp or the actual pedal?

The pedal \m/

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

rio posted:

Holy poo poo. I have a ‘77 Artist 2630 and a ‘77 es-175 lawsuit and they both almost look new except for some binding cracks on the first guitar and hardware oxidation. And a 2000 PM100, which I guess is getting old now that basically looks new. Vintage Ibanez guitars just don’t look like that (at least none that I have seen) - the Poly finishes are super durable. So it is pretty dumb that they are relicing guitars in a way that they would never end up naturally winless someone was just hitting the guitar with a screwdriver over and over again.

I really dislike relicing in general but understand why it is there for people who want it. This just looks really fake and bad though.

Yeah, that doesn't look "well worn"... it looks "left in my grandparents basement and it flooded then they used it to prop open a door for a couple decades"

I guess for a refinishing project maybe it's an okay deal?

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Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
Just got the DIY kit dropped off on the porch. I won't have a chance to go over everything with a fine toothed comb (and start sanding, sanding, sanding) until this weekend, but on first glance I'm amazed at the quality. For $68, I was expecting truly bottom of the barrel junk, but there are no obvious blemishes on the neck or body, and it even has a nice grain pattern. Expecting ugly wood, I had planned on painting it a solid color, but I might end up staining it now. With a rosewood fretboard and white pickguard, it'll be hard to get that classic Butterscotch tele look, but we'll see.

The tuners look like complete dog poo poo, but there's nothing obviously wrong with any of the hardware. I was pleasantly surprised to see the control plate is pre-wired; I figured that would give me a bit of trouble since I've never soldered before.

Right now I think drilling the neck bolts will be the hardest part. I didn't realize it wouldn't be pre-drilled. Not impossible, but definitely something I don't want to screw up.

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