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Plus Putin was a Lieutenant Colonel in the KGB and head of the FSB, a successor to the KGB. I mean, he's pretty gangsta as it is.
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Yeah, he's a Cold War spook and many Americans conservatives feel nostalgic for those days gone by. They were simpler times when men were men and you knew who and where your enemy was. That and a former KGB guy rising to the highest rank in the land and participating in world politics is some straight up IRL Tom Clancy poo poo.
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Sir Rolo posted:
There is no response. Just none. Are they that naive or do they just hate (their conception of) Obama that much?
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Anniversary posted:Are they that naive or do they just hate (their conception of) Obama that much? Do you really need to ask?
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Ferroque posted:What 2014 presidential elections? Seriously, didn't you read about Obama's secret personal security force that is turning people to the Dark Side? I just hope Rand Paul can bullseye womp rats in his T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters. Also: This isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!
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Is Monte Python anywhere near Monte Carlo?
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Sir Rolo posted:
I love how this neatly ignores that the debate during the Presidential campaign was over the auto makers in Detroit, not the city itself. What do you mean Wall St refers to a particular industry/group of corporations and not just a geographic location!? 
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THE GAYEST POSTER posted:I love the fact that suddenly Republicans are FOR federal spending on infrastructure. I really hope this is the endgame in Obama's 11-dimensional chessgame.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I really hope this is the endgame in Obama's 11-dimensional chessgame. Heh. 11 dimensional reverse psychology? I have to admit the notion is amusing, but it only seems to work about 5-10% of the time. The other times, the kneejerk response is to go super duper conservative rather than wrapping around so hardcore their positions become liberal.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Obamacare IS worse than Socialized Medicine! Good observation let's get some Russian style healthcare over here! Sir Rolo posted:
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Obviously Obama is going to be kicked out of office by the end of the year, duh 
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Every American who thinks that Putin would be a great president are by their own definitions traitors and should exile themselves. That or at least shut the gently caress up because of the millions of Russians who loving hate Putin, half of whom are most likely better than him.
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Sir Rolo posted:
Wow, this is some grade school bitching here. One was used, the other wasn't.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Wow, this is some grade school bitching here. One was used, the other wasn't. Also "military action" now apparently has no meaning other than deploying ground forces.
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ShortStack posted:"Only a few hundred people died, no big." - LL101 Also this thread.
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ShortStack posted:"Only a few hundred people died, no big." - LL101 And these are the same people who think the four deaths from the Benghazi attack were a massive world-changing disaster and that Obama should be impeached for it. I guess some peoples' lives are worth more than others.
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I calculated it once, I think it came out to the life of one American being equal to that of roughly 450 Middle Easterners.
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ShortStack posted:I calculated it once, I think it came out to the life of one American being equal to that of roughly 450 Middle Easterners. I'm taking bets on how long it takes fo this to be seen by someone as proof of how much better America is.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm taking bets on how long it takes fo this to be seen by someone as proof of how much better America is. I'm pretty sure it's already the subtitle for the RNC.
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Anniversary posted:There is no response. They are literally fascists.
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Fulchrum posted:In fairness, Putin also has pecs, whereas Kim Jong Un has a double chin. Its sorta the difference between the fat, smelly kid talking about how he managed to fight three gangs at once, you guys, versus a douchebag at the gym who's obviously on steroids talking about how he could flip a car if he felt like it. He looks like he's crazy enough to try it.
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Aeka 2.0 posted:Wow, this is some grade school bitching here. One was used, the other wasn't. Not to mention that they probably only "calculated" it by doing something like (number of victims * average lethal dosage), not accounting for things like dispersion etc. I think it was mentioned in the middle east thread that the type of missile used in the attacks could hold as much as 50 kg of Sarin, so even by their ridiculous logic of "more gas=more bad" it doesn't hold up.
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They start with the lovely one liner and work their way backwards to nothing.
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As well as outright lying, since executions cost the state magnitudes more than simply holding the accused for life thanks in large part to the automatic appeals that come with a capital sentence.
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Regalingualius posted:As well as outright lying, since executions cost the state magnitudes more than simply holding the accused for life thanks in large part to the automatic appeals that come with a capital sentence.
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Regalingualius posted:As well as outright lying, since executions cost the state magnitudes more than simply holding the accused for life thanks in large part to the automatic appeals that come with a capital sentence. The answer to that always is to call for reduced appeals. Even when it's brought up this could and would lead to the state killing innocent people, I've gotten that it could be an acceptable loss 
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Well, at least it's a change of pace from what I usually see in response to these kind of crimes, which is people gleefully cackling about the prison rape child molesters usually face.
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nyquil hangover posted:
Oh yeah, the stigma of child molestation and the abuse of pedophiles in prison isn't enough, killing them is what will really send the message. There are no murders in Texas, after all. Neptr fucked around with this message at 13:13 on Sep 16, 2013 |
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hirvox posted:Not that you'd want to make that counterpoint, because the next argument would be about gutting due process. Yeah, I'm familiar with it. Of course, the people I've known who've made that argument have never seemed to think of the broader implications, let alone the potential consequences if they or a loved one was falsely convicted.
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It's really strange to look at right-wing relatives' facebook feeds and see recycled anti-war stuff from 2003 or so. Now that there's a black democrat in office, conservative family members of mine are posting things like *picture of sad child* if we can't afford to feed her, how can we afford to feed this? *picture of f-22*. Everything has a nice paranoid slant to it though, my grandma has recently started sharing posts from a page called "Support Our Troops... Bring Them Home (To Fight The New World Order)"
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Regalingualius posted:Yeah, I'm familiar with it. I actually asked a pretty hardline Rush listener what if they were falsely accused. They maintained that their family would know they were innocent and it'd be a worthwhile sacrifice to ensure the real criminals were disposed of as well. It was my final attempt to explain the Blackstone Ratio and why/how it was the backbone of modern criminal justice; a concept they flat out refused to accept. Oh, they were my supervisor. (Somehow still managed to gain some respect in that job in spite of being branded as having aberrant political opinions.) This is the lesson it took to learn just too stare mutely when coworkers espouse regurgitated bullshit opinions. e: I was an unpaid intern and made a good impression on that person's boss (and their boss as well.) The only reason I knew about the branding was when one of his bosses said something about it jokingly as part of a compliment. Up to that point I assumed that he'd kept it between us, for all I know he tried to use it against me and that boss shot it down. :/ e2: And to clarify what I had been trying to explain was that the (US) justice system errs on the side of caution and that that is a good thing. For some reason I thought he'd realize how terrible it is to punish innocent people if someone he cared about was the innocent, but learned that the machine must feed! Anniversary fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Sep 16, 2013 |
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Anniversary posted:Oh, they were my supervisor. (Somehow still managed to gain some respect in that job in spite of being branded as having aberrant political opinions.) At least s/he's intelligent enough to separate work from personal. There's a reason that the entire justice system in the US errs enormously on the side of caution, though even then sometimes they get it wrong. See: http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/09/07/090907fa_fact_grann
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andrew smash posted:Everything has a nice paranoid slant to it though, my grandma has recently started sharing posts from a page called "Support Our Troops... Bring Them Home (To Fight The New World Order)" That's a pretty big waste when we could just give Sting a baseball bat.
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I Before E posted:That's a pretty big waste when we could just give Sting a baseball bat. "Another suburban family morning.../Grandmother's screaming at the wall..." Regalingualius fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Sep 16, 2013 |
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rkajdi posted:The answer to that always is to call for reduced appeals. Even when it's brought up this could and would lead to the state killing innocent people, I've gotten that it could be an acceptable loss "It takes balls to execute an innocent man."
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