Karl Barks posted:

there will still be labor laws under communism, I'd wager

R. Guyovich posted:

a network of cooperatives for small production and artisans buttressed by state-owned heavy industry and key planks of the economy works really well so long as they are coordinated by a workers' state.

you know who did those exact things?????

i say swears online posted:

you really shouldn't

fabergay egg posted:

perhaps some sort of Union, of Some sort of Socialist somethings, R. Guyovich?

Jewel Repetition posted:

It seems to me like the best of all worlds and the only way for socialism to to stay viable in the long term. Plus it doesn't mean that you can't still have a mixed economy where some industries are nationalized where it makes sense

Top City Homo posted:

capitalism with a human face

Mr. Lobe posted:

I'd prefer capitalism with a human neck

just one, so we could get the job done quick

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At the 14th National Congress of the Communist Party of China (CPC) in October 1992, President Jiang Zemin delivered a report which hailed the substantial achievements made in reform and opening-up and the modernization drive since the end of 1978. The report also outlined the major tasks in economic and social development for the 1990s. It was the first time the leadership declared that the target of China's economic restructuring was a socialist market economy.

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

I'm sure this has been asked but does anyone have recommendations for books about how the Soviet economy and government worked?

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To say that history's greatest economic experiment--Soviet communism--was also its greatest economic failure is to say what many consider obvious. Here, in a startling reinterpretation, Robert Allen argues that the USSR was one of the most successful developing economies of the twentieth century. He reaches this provocative conclusion by recalculating national consumption and using economic, demographic, and computer simulation models to address the "what if" questions central to Soviet history. Moreover, by comparing Soviet performance not only with advanced but with less developed countries, he provides a meaningful context for its evaluation.

Although the Russian economy began to develop in the late nineteenth century based on wheat exports, modern economic growth proved elusive. But growth was rapid from 1928 to the 1970s--due to successful Five Year Plans. Notwithstanding the horrors of Stalinism, the building of heavy industry accelerated growth during the 1930s and raised living standards, especially for the many peasants who moved to cities. A sudden drop in fertility due to the education of women and their employment outside the home also facilitated growth.

While highlighting the previously underemphasized achievements of Soviet planning, Farm to Factory also shows, through methodical analysis set in fluid prose, that Stalin's worst excesses--such as the bloody collectivization of agriculture--did little to spur growth. Economic development stagnated after 1970, as vital resources were diverted to the military and as a Soviet leadership lacking in original thought pursued wasteful investments.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The Paris Commune was a complete poo poo show, and I think we're safe enough to finally admit it.

Karl Barks posted:

i don't have a real answer so here's my troll answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Critique_of_Soviet_Economics

Flowers For Algeria posted:

to say this, on this day, as we are still reeling from our commemoration of the anniversary of the end of the Semaine Sanglante...

what kind of a monster are you

Captain Billy Pissboy posted:

I'm sure this has been asked but does anyone have recommendations for books about how the Soviet economy and government worked?

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

What're ya gonna do, guillotine me?

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

the top book on the subject i hear is "farm to factory" by robert c. allen but i haven't read it: https://www.amazon.com/Farm-Factory-Reinterpretation-Industrial-Revolution/dp/0691144311

and the author of this ^ is not a marxist by any means

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

the top book on the subject i hear is "farm to factory" by robert c. allen but i haven't read it: https://www.amazon.com/Farm-Factory-Reinterpretation-Industrial-Revolution/dp/0691144311

Finicums Wake posted:

i havent read this either, but this is the serious book everyone cites on the topic

R. Guyovich posted:

a network of cooperatives for small production and artisans buttressed by state-owned heavy industry and key planks of the economy works really well so long as they are coordinated by a workers' state.

you know who did those exact things?????

Serf posted:

market socialism seems like it would be an interesting experiment to try in a particular geographical region under a global command economy. and after we have survived the climate apocalypse

Serf posted:

market socialism seems like it would be an interesting experiment to try in a particular geographical region under a global command economy. and after we have survived the climate apocalypse

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lol i just noticed the top review is former D&D mod mccaine

Finicums Wake posted:

that owns. he wrote up a nice reading list that i still consult when i have no idea where to start on some topic. i tried to pull it back up just now, to link it itt, but his website doesnt seem to be working

cenotaph posted:

Surely the invisible hand will stop slapping us around if change its glove.

Serf posted:

market socialism seems like it would be an interesting experiment to try in a particular geographical region under a global command economy. and after we have survived the climate apocalypse

Algund Eenboom posted:

Algund Eenboom posted:

dirty lousy tramp posted:

Split?

Algund Eenboom posted:

Yes

2 bad croatia is 100% racists now