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Mirello posted:https://thediplomat.com/2021/05/what-do-chinese-people-think-is-happening-in-xinjiang/ quote:“I know some Uyghurs came to learn from Kashgar. Some of them could not even speak a single sentence of Mandarin before, but after studying for a period of time, some were able to find a good job… If this is very good for them, and they are willing, how can it be called a concentration camp?” he asked. (It’s worth noting in this context that many of those who have spent time in these facilities say they were commanded to speak often of their gratitude to the CCP – and even to look happy at all times.)
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Jun 1, 2021 08:23
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Mirello posted:https://thediplomat.com/2021/05/what-do-chinese-people-think-is-happening-in-xinjiang/ Some A+ projection here, good stuff.
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Jun 1, 2021 08:23
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Well, ok, maybe they lied about Xinjiang, but I have a really good feeling about the lab leak being real!
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Jun 1, 2021 08:47
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quote:(It’s worth noting in this context that many of those who have spent time in these facilities say they were commanded to speak often of their gratitude to the CCP – and even to look happy at all times.) very misogynist of the CCP to tell broads to smile more
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Jun 1, 2021 08:55
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this bit intrigued mequote:“If Xinjiang really becomes North Korea, and random massacres and crimes [are] really flourishing,” the West would not need to speak up, Mu, the Beijing-based journalist, said. “Chinese and Han nationality people like me will rise up against the CCP.” because i have absolutely no idea what hes talking about in regards to random massacres and crimes in north korea which suggests to me that either educated chinese people have access to different anti north korean propaganda than we do or that this guy is used enough to western propaganda that hes just engaging in the usual standby habit of using north korea as a specific placeholder to mean a platonic bad country that commits random vague crimes
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Jun 1, 2021 09:23
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Who ya gonna believe? A bunch of brainwashed Baath party drones or Parisoula Lampsos? Get the gently caress out of here you Saddamist.
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Jun 1, 2021 09:25
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Some Guy TT posted:this bit intrigued me That would be kind of neat to learn, but I think North Korea is just a "there be dragons" area on the map in general. It's not all that easier to access for a Chinese citizen than a westerner, is it?
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Jun 1, 2021 09:41
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genericnick posted:That would be kind of neat to learn, but I think North Korea is just a "there be dragons" area on the map in general. It's not all that easier to access for a Chinese citizen than a westerner, is it? It's definitely not. Chinese people aren't inundated with the kind of anti-DPRK propaganda that gets filtered to the West through South Korean tabloids, but from the Chinese side the DPRK still looks like a cloistered state of weirdos.
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Jun 1, 2021 09:46
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I thought this question was pretty interesting, so I asked my (late 20s beijinger) wife. The question was what do you think of north korea? She said "they're poor, most people dont get enough nutrition. They're like china 50 years ago." What do you think about their government? "The government controls them, they dont have internet. They can't learn about the world" Compared to China's govt "They're like china if china didn't become capitalist. people are happy because they don't know anything" sample size of one, so prob not super informative.
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Jun 1, 2021 11:33
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genericnick posted:That would be kind of neat to learn, but I think North Korea is just a "there be dragons" area on the map in general. It's not all that easier to access for a Chinese citizen than a westerner, is it? When the older Kim was in charge, relationship with China was decent and Chinese can take group tour to NK. There was casino just like Cambodia/Myanmar/Laos(?) that has Casino's just for the Chinese tourists. Chinese used to go to NK to get reminded of what China was like in the 70s and 80s. Kind of like what Cuba was a few years ago. Yeah I don't know what "random massacre in NK" that guy was referring to. I will chalk it up for fake news.
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Jun 1, 2021 11:33
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Mirello posted:"The government controls them, they dont have internet. They can't learn about the world" its interesting to me how the few foreigners who can talk to north koreans are always surprised both at how curious they are about the world and how much they already know this trope is pretty consistent across north korean narratives whether the person in question is tankie state department spook or just random businessperson whos doing business there i think the not having internet thing really throws people off because its easy to forget that life used to exist before the internet and they werent exactly dark ages where foreign lands were unfathomable mysteries
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Jun 1, 2021 11:54
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Some Guy TT posted:its interesting to me how the few foreigners who can talk to north koreans are always surprised both at how curious they are about the world and how much they already know this trope is pretty consistent across north korean narratives whether the person in question is tankie state department spook or just random businessperson whos doing business there Easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism, unimaginable not to post about it. genericnick has issued a correction as of 14:22 on Jun 1, 2021 |
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Jun 1, 2021 12:16
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Lol, it's pretty interesting. I asked my wife and she says she's never seen any north koreans. I actually have. In 2015, my first year in china, in Wuhan (lol) I was doing the health check they force you to do when you get here. two guys in front of me were north koreans. I could tell because I read their forms and also they were wearing pins with the leaders face on it. Also in Wuhan, some of the museums had like, a north korean shop where you could buy stuff and support the regime. Havent seen any of those since I came to bj though. Now the only way to see them is at those overpriced govt restaurants. We both feel like seeing one is like seeing a mystical creature or alien because they're so rare to see outside their country. I do feel as though relations have dipped since 2015.
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Jun 1, 2021 14:02
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 Given how China's zero-food-waste program was characterized as "China is meddling in how people choose to eat", I can only assume that increasing the child limit to three will mean Newsweek is going to run a story about how the police will arrest Chinese people who don't gently caress
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Jun 1, 2021 14:26
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Given comments like this it's not completely unfounded. https://twitter.com/matthewwalsh91/status/1399337413265166346?s=19
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Jun 1, 2021 14:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:
Excited for the China is trying genocide minority populations with han birthrates takes.
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Jun 1, 2021 14:34
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Not So Fast posted:Given comments like this it's not completely unfounded. what does this say?
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Jun 1, 2021 14:51
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 https://twitter.com/robkhenderson/status/1398077087605473286?s=20
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Jun 1, 2021 14:54
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That article came up before, it's from over ten years ago. They're multiplying pretty quickly now to where China is going to overtake the US within the next ten years most likely. China is up to ~626 right now compared to the US's ~724.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:14
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i imagine its easier to get 1 billion yuan than 1 billion US dollars
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Jun 1, 2021 15:24
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gradenko_2000 posted:Given how China's zero-food-waste program was characterized as "China is meddling in how people choose to eat", I can only assume that increasing the child limit to three will mean Newsweek is going to run a story about how the police will arrest Chinese people who don't gently caress excited to read all about how childless couples will have a live-in CPC official assigned to them to perform forced impregnations
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Jun 1, 2021 15:27
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mawarannahr posted:what does this say? Talks about restricting birth control until after you've had two kids.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:31
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Rutibex posted:i imagine its easier to get 1 billion yuan than 1 billion US dollars They're all billionaires in USD, this data's from Forbes.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:37
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nvm, again.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:38
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genericnick posted:That would be kind of neat to learn, but I think North Korea is just a "there be dragons" area on the map in general. It's not all that easier to access for a Chinese citizen than a westerner, is it? Pre-pandemic the vast majority of tourism revenue came from Chinese nationals.
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Jun 1, 2021 15:39
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AnimeIsTrash posted:They also used death squads during the pakistani civil war. while they may have done it for cynical reasons, india was unarguably on the good side during the bangladesh war of independence. pakistan committed a genocide
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Jun 1, 2021 16:02
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Mirello posted:We both feel like seeing one is like seeing a mystical creature or alien because they're so rare to see outside their country. I do feel as though relations have dipped since 2015.
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Jun 1, 2021 16:04
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gradenko_2000 posted:
thats a wild rear end take by bloomberg
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Jun 1, 2021 16:26
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Not So Fast posted:Talks about restricting birth control until after you've had two kids. This is being said by a Chinese official?
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Jun 1, 2021 16:27
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https://twitter.com/SpokespersonCHN/status/1399727686096879616
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Jun 1, 2021 17:11
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building this to give my civ a morale bonus
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Jun 1, 2021 17:20
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Mirello posted:https://thediplomat.com/2021/05/what-do-chinese-people-think-is-happening-in-xinjiang/ Once again this is exactly the same as every other conversation about Xinjiang. First it starts as "Genocide, Genocide Genocide" But then oh wait, actually no it's not really genocide and it's way more complicated than that. Always the same poo poo, always.
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Jun 1, 2021 18:49
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mila kunis posted:while they may have done it for cynical reasons, india was unarguably on the good side during the bangladesh war of independence. pakistan committed a genocide lol talk about timing, radio war nerd just came out with an ep on the bangladesh independence war http://exiledonline.com/45wn84klrz/media/rwn_ep_282_052921_v21.mp3
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Jun 1, 2021 18:51
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Mirello posted:I asked my (late 20s beijinger) wife [...] sorry about your revisionist wife, hopefully your next marriage will be to a nice juche girl
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Jun 1, 2021 20:48
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Grapplejack posted:That article came up before, it's from over ten years ago. They're multiplying pretty quickly now to where China is going to overtake the US within the next ten years most likely. China is up to ~626 right now compared to the US's ~724. The USA obviously needs to start killing its billionaires faster. We can't lose to China there!
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Jun 2, 2021 05:36
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjvoq7aFseM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u71sZbH8m04 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buryatia BrutalistMcDonalds has issued a correction as of 11:20 on Jun 2, 2021 |
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Jun 2, 2021 11:11
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https://twitter.com/wokeglobaltimes/status/1399187095764279303 This "network of researchers and scientists", DRASTIC, is cited all over the place in connection to the lab leak theory. Turns out they're a bunch of batshit insane cranks.
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Jun 2, 2021 11:30
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Grevling posted:https://twitter.com/wokeglobaltimes/status/1399187095764279303 This is a good thread but... https://twitter.com/wokeglobaltimes/status/1399572628973752321?s=20 lmao https://twitter.com/wokeglobaltimes/status/1399928225766285312?s=20 You either die a hero, or live long enough to become a tankie.
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Jun 2, 2021 13:38
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lol its all so insane
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Jun 2, 2021 13:52
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just lol if you aren't a tankie in tyool 2021
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