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Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

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Dr.Radical posted:

I’ll tell you what bugs me about French speakers. Their tendency to say “take” when they mean “have.” No you won’t “take” the cheeseburger. That implies you’re stealing it.

I think that's just Montreal English at this point. Even the Anglos I know there will say "take lunch".

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Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

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Pillbug
400 years of snow frog, you would not understand. Vous ne comprendrez jamais, étrangers.

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


ladron posted:

since it's so obvious that mainlanders are fleeing with tons of ill gotten goods, why doesn't anyone do anything? surely the chinese government wants that money.

Because important government people and their families are also sending millions out of the country and they can't address the little guys without hurting themselves.

Riptor
Apr 13, 2003

here's to feelin' good all the time

Dr.Radical posted:

I’ll tell you what bugs me about French speakers. Their tendency to say “take” when they mean “have.” No you won’t “take” the cheeseburger. That implies you’re stealing it.

And a complete inability to ever correctly choose between "this" and "that"

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Dr.Radical posted:

I’ll tell you what bugs me about French speakers. Their tendency to say “take” when they mean “have.” No you won’t “take” the cheeseburger. That implies you’re stealing it.

no i will not borrow you

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug
The irony of all this is that because of Quebec's byzantine immigration rules, I have to show that my wife and I are moving to Ontario for immigration purposes, instead of to Quebec, where I have lived almost all my life and want to live and work and die.

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

ladron posted:

since it's so obvious that mainlanders are fleeing with tons of ill gotten goods, why doesn't anyone do anything? surely the chinese government wants that money.

Because the CCP is tied up into the corruption and graft at every level and they hardly want to slam the door on themselves.

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

ladron posted:

since it's so obvious that mainlanders are fleeing with tons of ill gotten goods, why doesn't anyone do anything? surely the chinese government wants that money.


It's a constantly evolving arms race between money launderers and the government. The huge pressure to get money out creates huge incentives to figure out schemes to evade government capital controls. While the government finally gets a grip on one type of racket, a new one can pop up and remain undetected for a while. We also don't have a very clear idea of how much resources and personnel the government dedicates to stopping capital controls evasion. It could be underfunded or intentionally handicapped so that corrupt officials can more easily move their money out.

It's kind of like drug smuggling in the US. We know it's crossing the Mexican border and the US government wants to stop it. But the size of the US market creates a massive incentive for the cartels to innovate new methods of smuggling and evading detection.

Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!
They cracked down on the Macau money laundering thing, right? Or just for small fry, and they found a workaround?

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

CIGNX posted:

It's kind of like drug smuggling in the US. We know it's crossing the Mexican border and the US government wants to stop it. But the size of the US market creates a massive incentive for the cartels to innovate new methods of smuggling and evading detection.

great analogy, thanks

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Dr.Radical posted:

I’ll tell you what bugs me about French speakers. Their tendency to say “take” when they mean “have.” No you won’t “take” the cheeseburger. That implies you’re stealing it.

I'll take a penis mightier, Alex

CIGNX
May 7, 2006

You can trust me

Pirate Radar posted:

They cracked down on the Macau money laundering thing, right? Or just for small fry, and they found a workaround?

They cracked down hard on Macau. The Macau casinos were overly dependent on high-roller gamblers on tour junkets that in reality were money laundering schemes. Once Xi Jinping cracked down on that stuff around 2013-2014, revenue in Macau casinos dropped by half.

edit: didn't realized the link was paywalled, so here's the relevant image

CIGNX fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Feb 6, 2018

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Also the Canadian side doesn't want to crack down because without the flood of dirty money it would tank the housing bubble and a bunch of voting baby boomers would lose their retirement because like a majority of the country have over-leveraged them selves banking that the bubble will go on forever and ever.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

Baronjutter posted:

Also the Canadian side doesn't want to crack down because without the flood of dirty money it would tank the housing bubble and a bunch of voting baby boomers would lose their retirement because like a majority of the country have over-leveraged them selves banking that the bubble will go on forever and ever.

I am desperately hoping the bubble bursts so I can buy my parent's house as opposed to have all intergenerational wealth vanish from my family in an instant.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

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Ceciltron posted:

I am desperately hoping the bubble bursts so I can buy my parent's house as opposed to have all intergenerational wealth vanish from my family in an instant.

Uhm... That's not how intergenerational wealth works. If your parents hold on to the house and then you inherit it (or they give it to your or sell it to you super-cheap), that counts. If your parents sell to someone who isn't you and then you inherit some of that wealth from them, that also counts.

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

LanceHunter posted:

Uhm... That's not how intergenerational wealth works. If your parents hold on to the house and then you inherit it (or they give it to your or sell it to you super-cheap), that counts. If your parents sell to someone who isn't you and then you inherit some of that wealth from them, that also counts.

lol if you think the pleasureseeking of the boomers won't evaporate literal hundreds of thousands of dollars in less than a decade of conspicuous consumption.

LanceHunter
Nov 12, 2016

Beautiful People Club


Ceciltron posted:

lol if you think the pleasureseeking of the boomers won't evaporate literal hundreds of thousands of dollars in less than a decade of conspicuous consumption.

Okay, then in that case you've got no intergenerational wealth anyways. If they aren't going to sell the house to you for a special lower price (and you aren't going to get any of the money back from a market-price sale, whether made by you or by anyone else), then buying their house at the market rate isn't any better than buying any other house for intergenerational wealth.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
It's at least a million per each right?

Ceciltron
Jan 11, 2007

Text BEEP to 43527 for the dancing robot!
Pillbug

LanceHunter posted:

Okay, then in that case you've got no intergenerational wealth anyways. If they aren't going to sell the house to you for a special lower price (and you aren't going to get any of the money back from a market-price sale, whether made by you or by anyone else), then buying their house at the market rate isn't any better than buying any other house for intergenerational wealth.

The house has emotional value and it is where i hide the proceeds of my jewel heists.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

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coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext
Trip report: How to nearly die in China (in five doctor appointments).

1) Get sick. Cough a lot. Go to the local clinic. Get given tylenol. Have I tried hot water?
2) Get worse. Go to the local clinic. Get given random antibiotics. Have I tried hot water? No soda. Soda is bad.
3) Get even worse. Get sent home from work. Go to foreigner hospital. You clearly have asthma, and have I tried hot water?

Then faint in the middle of the shopping center, and as you sit on the floor recovering, realise your funeral is going to have someone mid-eulogy whispering "If only the foreigner had drunk more hot water."

All my life I had thought overcoming those moments of raging, tantrum-throwing frustration, from that time when I was 2 and I didn't get the candy I wanted all the way to wanting to go to a party as a teen on a Tuesday night, were part of becoming a healthy adult.

Nope. What you were actually meant to do was to bottle up every instance of disappointment in your entire life and use it as fuel to become the most obstinate fucker that had ever lived.

4) I went back to the foreigner hospital immediately without an appointment. I explained that I did not need an appointment, because I would be taking the next available slot. I indicated that I was perfectly happy to wait for as long as it took, and no, I wasn't going anywhere until I had a doctor.

The doctor informed me I had really bad asthma and maybe I could have two puffs of asthma medication instead of one. I informed the doctor that FIX IT FIX THIS COUGH FIX IT NOW IT'S NOT ASTHMA FIX THE COUGH I'M NOT MOVING FIX IT.

I received a blood test and x-ray. I sat for a while, with my 'asthma', then suddenly had multiple nurses asking me for my antibiotic allergies while setting me up for an IV. The doctor told me, in the most face-saving casual way, that I had a chest infection.

The nurse told me, in private, that my blood test results were "bad. very bad."

And that's why I've spent the past two days in hospital getting IV treatment. Good thing I'm on a salary.

Oh! but I saw my very first open pot hole in the middle of the street. That's pretty China.

Jusupov
May 24, 2007
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coolusername posted:

Trip report: How to nearly die in China (in five doctor appointments).

1) Get sick. Cough a lot. Go to the local clinic. Get given tylenol. Have I tried hot water?
2) Get worse. Go to the local clinic. Get given random antibiotics. Have I tried hot water? No soda. Soda is bad.
3) Get even worse. Get sent home from work. Go to foreigner hospital. You clearly have asthma, and have I tried hot water?

Then faint in the middle of the shopping center, and as you sit on the floor recovering, realise your funeral is going to have someone mid-eulogy whispering "If only the foreigner had drunk more hot water."

All my life I had thought overcoming those moments of raging, tantrum-throwing frustration, from that time when I was 2 and I didn't get the candy I wanted all the way to wanting to go to a party as a teen on a Tuesday night, were part of becoming a healthy adult.

Nope. What you were actually meant to do was to bottle up every instance of disappointment in your entire life and use it as fuel to become the most obstinate fucker that had ever lived.

4) I went back to the foreigner hospital immediately without an appointment. I explained that I did not need an appointment, because I would be taking the next available slot. I indicated that I was perfectly happy to wait for as long as it took, and no, I wasn't going anywhere until I had a doctor.

The doctor informed me I had really bad asthma and maybe I could have two puffs of asthma medication instead of one. I informed the doctor that FIX IT FIX THIS COUGH FIX IT NOW IT'S NOT ASTHMA FIX THE COUGH I'M NOT MOVING FIX IT.

I received a blood test and x-ray. I sat for a while, with my 'asthma', then suddenly had multiple nurses asking me for my antibiotic allergies while setting me up for an IV. The doctor told me, in the most face-saving casual way, that I had a chest infection.

The nurse told me, in private, that my blood test results were "bad. very bad."

And that's why I've spent the past two days in hospital getting IV treatment. Good thing I'm on a salary.

Oh! but I saw my very first open pot hole in the middle of the street. That's pretty China.
Have you tried taking hot antibiotics?

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


coolusername posted:

Nope. What you were actually meant to do was to bottle up every instance of disappointment in your entire life and use it as fuel to become the most obstinate fucker that had ever lived.

Good job, you figured out the method quick. This is the only way to get anything done in Asia most of the time, just fyi. You'll use it again if you don't die first.

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


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I love you all
I had a Taiwanese co-worker nearly die of pneumonia because she tried treating it with hot water.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

More like Traditional Chinese Malpractice

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
Man, how long was it from the first visit to the hospital stay? I knew it sounded bad when you got told it was asthma, but a lung infection requiring an IV antibiotic drip is some hard core poo poo and it’s NOT going to be subtle. An infected lung does not have the wheeze of a cold or bronchial swelling, it even sounds like a shuddering swamp is slowly oozing around. It is stomach churning and makes you feel incredibly intense pity for the sufferer.

One of the great mysteries of this planet is how plague not a biblical level problem in China. Apathetic and incompetent doctors, densely packed cities and massive amounts of pollution - you’d think they’d have epidemics on a yearly basis.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Coolguye posted:

One of the great mysteries of this planet is how plague not a biblical level problem in China. Apathetic and incompetent doctors, densely packed cities and massive amounts of pollution - you’d think they’d have epidemics on a yearly basis.

free reign on antibiotics

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

ladron posted:

free reign on antibiotics
It's probably just a matter of time before we see an antibiotic-resistant strain of the plague, and then it's game over.

ladron
Sep 15, 2007

eso es lo que es

Collateral Damage posted:

It's probably just a matter of time before we see an antibiotic-resistant strain of the plague, and then it's game over.

we'll be fine as long as there's hot water and kimchi

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!

Collateral Damage posted:

It's probably just a matter of time before we see an antibiotic-resistant strain of the plague, and then it's game over.

This. Only on a global scale - especially once it spreads to India. 2 Billion infected, with a B.

coolusername
Aug 23, 2011

cooltitletext

Coolguye posted:

Man, how long was it from the first visit to the hospital stay? I knew it sounded bad when you got told it was asthma, but a lung infection requiring an IV antibiotic drip is some hard core poo poo and it’s NOT going to be subtle. An infected lung does not have the wheeze of a cold or bronchial swelling, it even sounds like a shuddering swamp is slowly oozing around. It is stomach churning and makes you feel incredibly intense pity for the sufferer.

One of the great mysteries of this planet is how plague not a biblical level problem in China. Apathetic and incompetent doctors, densely packed cities and massive amounts of pollution - you’d think they’d have epidemics on a yearly basis.

I had a 'bad cold' by around the 20th, each visit was around 5 days apart, and I got the first IV treatment yesterday and the second today. I have an extremely high endurance level for pain and illness, but mostly they were just fobbing me off and not properly testing for anything. They kept giving me a cursory check for fever, telling me I didn't have a fever, listening to my lungs for 5 seconds and then shrugging it off as a cold/asthma/just not doing well in winter until I finally snapped after nearly a week of (TMI) coughing mucus up so hard I started throwing up and tore muscles in my sides.

They weren't taking me at all seriously (hell, yesterday the doctor tried 'maybe you need TWO doses of asthma medicine before I threw my little FIX IT NOW tantrum) until the minute the blood test results came back, then it was a different story.

I have learned a valuable lesson.

Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

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Well done, coolusername, that's exactly what you have to do. I hope you feel better soon!

peanut
Sep 9, 2007


I've never had to throw a tantrum but I've often said "My doctor in America prescribed me..." to get something strong and effective.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Grand Fromage posted:

Good job, you figured out the method quick. This is the only way to get anything done in Asia most of the time, just fyi. You'll use it again if you don't die first.

Asia is painting with too broad of a brush my dude.

kimcicle
Feb 23, 2003

coolusername posted:

Trip report: How to nearly die in China (in five doctor appointments).

Jeeze. I walked into a Korean clinic with a cough on Friday after flying in and the doctor immediately suggested I get some sort of IV treatment. I did feel better on Saturday (which is great, because if I would have felt bad hacking up a storm during a wedding) so it worked I guess.

Also I've never had so many parents come out of the woodwork to try to get me to meet their daughters. Poor girls are only 27~30 and the parents are desperate to marry them off to any dude at the wedding.

Also: re loopholes, wasn't it a thing for Chinese people to set up a shell company in Canada / US, then have the shell companies sue them to move money out of the country without technically violating rules about how much money could be transferred at once overseas?

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011

LimburgLimbo posted:

Asia is painting with too broad of a brush my dude.

Go to a research university hospital in Japan, not a small clinic with an old doctor is my advice.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Dr.Radical posted:

Go to a research university hospital in Japan, not a small clinic with an old doctor is my advice.

I’ve actually gotten some of the best service from old rear end doctors in Japan in clinics, you just gotta know where to go.

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011
On the other hand TCM is a thing in Japan

Atlas Hugged
Mar 12, 2007


Put your arms around me,
fiddly digits, itchy britches
I love you all

kimcicle posted:

Jeeze. I walked into a Korean clinic with a cough on Friday after flying in and the doctor immediately suggested I get some sort of IV treatment. I did feel better on Saturday (which is great, because if I would have felt bad hacking up a storm during a wedding) so it worked I guess.

Also I've never had so many parents come out of the woodwork to try to get me to meet their daughters. Poor girls are only 27~30 and the parents are desperate to marry them off to any dude at the wedding.

Also: re loopholes, wasn't it a thing for Chinese people to set up a shell company in Canada / US, then have the shell companies sue them to move money out of the country without technically violating rules about how much money could be transferred at once overseas?

That IV could very well have just been full of vitamins and sugar water. There's this thing in Korean culture where people expect to get some kind of treatment, usually a shot of some sort, regardless of what their symptoms are. It's a better alternative to "10,000 unnecessary antibiotics" but in my experience they usually were coupled together.

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Fleta Mcgurn
Oct 5, 2003

Porpoise noise continues.
Why is the placebo K-shot always in the butt?

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