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Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug

Artum posted:



Generally haven't been a fan of using regular helmets on primaris but holy crap this works well.

Really hope we get some non-gravis jump troops in future.

He found the helmet somewhere.

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Lupercalcalcal
Jan 28, 2016

Suck a dick, dumb shits

xutech posted:

Where are you getting this information from? Because knowing that boxed sets of 30k are getting axed would be a big deal to anyone who wants to try it.

I have a friend that works at GW HQ. Won't be more specific than that for obvious reasons. Feel free to take or ignore advice, but I'm just saying that if you're thinking of picking up a Calth box, I'd do it sooner rather than later.

Lupercalcalcal fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Mar 29, 2018

Squibsy
Dec 3, 2005

Not suited, just booted.
College Slice

Artum posted:



Generally haven't been a fan of using regular helmets on primaris but holy crap this works well.

Really hope we get some non-gravis jump troops in future.

Holy gently caress this looks amazing

Might have to make some assault marines to hang out with my Primaris tactical squad

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Lupercalcalcal posted:

I have a friend that works at GW HQ. Won't be more specific than that for obvious reasons. Feel free to take or ignore advice, but I'm just saying that if you're thinking of picking up a Calth box, I'd do it sooner rather than later.

Does he secretly take home all the new games and let you play them on the weekend?

:allears:

Lupercalcalcal
Jan 28, 2016

Suck a dick, dumb shits

Schadenboner posted:

Does he secretly take home all the new games and let you play them on the weekend?

:allears:

No.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
Anyone who reads all the ham books: is Elam Courbray (only Fire Hawks survivor) dead yet, or is he still mingling about with other chapters? Just contemplating if it would make more sense to pick up his model for my primaris successors, or make a LOTD count-as.

E: if he has an official model. I thought he did from cursory googling but apparently it's the same kitbashed model from different angles/lighting.

Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Mar 29, 2018

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS
My first game in Richmond, haven't played since December. I fought Harlequins.

Spoils of War, I had my iron hands.

He had 3 squads of 5 harlequins in starweavers with troupe masters and solitaire. Then an eldar detachment with a spiritseer, 5 fire dragons, and 2 squads of wraithguard with d-scythes in wave serpents.

I had a power fist captain, terminator librarian, jump pack chaplain, 10 marines with a full plasma loadout, 5 marines with a combi melta and flamer in a twin assault cannon razorback, 5 sniper scouts, 5 cataphractii with a mix of lightning claws and power fists, 5 terminators with assault cannon, devs with 3 lascannons and an HB (for hellfire shells), contemptor dread, venerable dread with las/missile, and a vindicator.


Dawn of war deployment. My terminators all deep strike, sniper scouts up in a building on the left flank, devs, vindicator, captain, and ven dread are on the right flank to counter his two wave serpents and protect an objective. Razorback of marines in the middle, foot marine squad and contemptor is near the scouts holding an objective. Two of the starweavers including his warlord are deployed on my left across from the contemptor, wave serpents and the other star weaver on the right, fire dragons deep striking.

Turn 1 he basically just moves all his poo poo up, his vehicles take some pot shots at me and kill a devastator but not much of note happens. The wave serpent with his spirit seer peels off of the flank and goes into the middle after my razorback. He gets 2 points because I don't have anything within 12 inches of the center of the board.

My turn 1, I secure the objective my tac marines are sitting on to score 1, I drop the assault cannon squad into his backfield to get Behind Enemy Lines for another 1. My tac squad's plasma and contemptor unload on one starweaver and kills it, causing it to explode and kill a few harlequins inside, which the terminators I dropped behind them then shoot up with storm bolters and the assault cannon. Heavy weapons on the other side of the table almost kill one wave serpent, in the middle my dudes pile out of the razorback and my cataphractiis drop to deal with the serpent on the objective in the center. Terminator librarian puts Might of Heroes on the jump chaplain and he does a decent bit to the serpent, cataphractii fail their charge. Contemptor charges into the second starweaver on the left side and kills it.

Turn 2, the harlequins on the left side blast my contemptor with fusion pistols and hurt it pretty good, but aren't able to drop it in melee and I squish his troupe master warlord. Wraiths and spiritseer in the middle pile out and kill the 5 man tac squad with d-scythes and drop the chaplain to 1 wound. Chaplain's got might of heroes so I interrupted with him in the charge phase and put a decent hurt on the wraiths, between that and "only in death does duty end" or whatever the stratagem is called he drops one wraithguard and wounds another as he goes down. On the right flank, the starweaver rolls up and melts my vendread with fusion pistols, wraithguard come out of the serpent and kills 2 more devastators with poor d-scythe rolls (and good FNP rolls on my part).

Terminators wipe up some harlequin stragglers and keep moving on to claim objectives, I got some various points from scour the skies and some other secure cards. Razorback charges into the wraithguard in the center and my cataphractii and librarian follow, wiping the squad and securing the center objective. Contemptor goes down swinging vs the harlequins on the left, I charge the vindicator into wraithguard on the right to absorb d-scythe shots and let my captain get in with his power fist and drop some.

Turn 3 the harlequins on the right use their pistols again to kill the vindicator, the ones on the left that dropped the contemptor pull back to take some objectives. Solitaire and fire dragons drop in the center, I pop auspex scan on my cataphractii and drop half the fire dragons. Solitaire kills my librarian, spirtseer drops some cataphractii before he gets killed. Wraithguard fall back and kill the rest of the devastators. Fire dragons drop the razorback to half.

My tac squad and terminators mop up the rest of the harlequins on the left, razorback kills the fire dragons, captain steadily punches out wraithguard while his remaining starweaver and wave serpent go for objectives.

At this point most of our stuff was dead, his remaining harlequins pile out and kill my tac squad on the left but get stuck fighting the rest of my terminators, the 2 remaining cataphractii bust up the starweaver a bit. Solitaire tries to kill my captain but I pop my Armor Indomitus and power fist him in the face. I'm able to maintain my 11-8 lead and stop him from scoring any more objectives with what's left, game ends turn 5.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

He's not really your friend then. Maybe he's just using you for sex?

Lupercalcalcal
Jan 28, 2016

Suck a dick, dumb shits

Schadenboner posted:

He's not really your friend then. Maybe he's just using you for sex?

Actually, it's Rountree and I'm using him for sex.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Lupercalcalcal posted:

Actually, it's Rountree and I'm using him for sex.

:gizz:

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer

Sounds like a fun game. I've got a guy at my local store who likes to play Harlequins and every time he plays the table is basically empty by the end of turn 2 or so which sounds pretty similar to your match.

Haven't seen you much around these parts recently- glad to hear you're playing again after what I think I remember being a move.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender
Wych Cults Preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/29/codex-drukhari-preview-wych-cultsgw-homepage-post-3/

All three of the obsessions they preview are really loving good

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
I like how the Delf team are so on-point with everything that they immediately quell concerns from the Start Collecting box with "yeah Wyches are being made good, more attacks and less points" at the start of the article.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

TheChirurgeon posted:

Wych Cults Preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/29/codex-drukhari-preview-wych-cultsgw-homepage-post-3/

All three of the obsessions they preview are really loving good

Strife not spelled "Stryfe", I'm going to have to dock them points for that.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer

SteelMentor posted:

Why not both?



Also I broke down, bought Forgebane whole instead of waiting to find someone willing to split it. Baby Knights and new Necron rules were too strong. Having a whale of a time splashing around those Liquitex inks on the Knights, need to figure a good balance of ink to medium however.

Anyone had a chance to use the Baby Knights yet? Hoping to have them smash a tank or two on Saturday, heard that they might be badly overcosted.

I used 1 yesterday. Moves really fast, killed a couple Intercessors with the guns, had a couple wounds shaved off during the shooting phase, got charged by a 5 man unit of Intercessors and a Gravis Captain. Intercessors didn't do poo poo against it, but the gravis captain crushed it with his fist.

I'm going to run a knight heavy list on Sunday (if I end up playing) so i'll let you know how they work then, since i'll be fielding two.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

TheChirurgeon posted:

Wych Cults Preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/29/codex-drukhari-preview-wych-cultsgw-homepage-post-3/

All three of the obsessions they preview are really loving good

DE look tip top, wow.

Ilor
Feb 2, 2008

That's a crit.

Schadenboner posted:

Strife not spelled "Stryfe", I'm going to have to dock them points for that.
It's pronounced "STREE-fay," of course.

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

i can't help but notice there's a lot of genestealer cultists in the pictures so far

xutech
Mar 4, 2011

EIIST

Lupercalcalcal posted:

I have a friend that works at GW HQ. Won't be more specific than that for obvious reasons. Feel free to take or ignore advice, but I'm just saying that if you're thinking of picking up a Calth box, I'd do it sooner rather than later.

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm saying I'm shocked by the implications. I really liked the Calth and burning of prospero boxed games and the idea that they're it sucks.

chutche2
Jul 3, 2010

CUPOLA MY BALLS

Pendent posted:

Sounds like a fun game. I've got a guy at my local store who likes to play Harlequins and every time he plays the table is basically empty by the end of turn 2 or so which sounds pretty similar to your match.

Haven't seen you much around these parts recently- glad to hear you're playing again after what I think I remember being a move.

Yeah I'm settled in here now and used to my new job so I've been out meeting people and playing games.

Lupercalcalcal
Jan 28, 2016

Suck a dick, dumb shits

xutech posted:

I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm saying I'm shocked by the implications. I really liked the Calth and burning of prospero boxed games and the idea that they're it sucks.

That's fair, it was a shock to me to. Motivated me to pick up some stuff while it lasts. Those box sets are an insanely good deal (which of course, might be the problem).

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
I mean, maybe they're going to release a Siege of Baal/Destruction of Caliban box for when HH8: Angelus releases :laffo:?

Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 15:54 on Mar 29, 2018

Lupercalcalcal
Jan 28, 2016

Suck a dick, dumb shits

Schadenboner posted:

I mean, maybe they're going to release a Siege of Baal/Destruction of Caliban box for when HH8: Angelus releases :laffo:?

Yeah, I feel like FW has sort of forgotten it does things other than specialist games and of course space wolves covered in bananas with no grips on their guns.

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
Um, I think you'll find that the Blood Angels are being released alongside the White Scars in Book VIII: Malevolence. It is due out later this year. :laffo:
:goonsay:


Angelus is now Book IX. :negative:

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Safety Factor posted:

Um, I think you'll find that the Blood Angels are being released alongside the White Scars in Book VIII: Malevolence. It is due out later this year. :laffo:
:goonsay:


Angelus is now Book IX. :negative:

:vomarine:

Safety Factor
Oct 31, 2009




Grimey Drawer
To be fair, Angelus was way too ambitious with Blood Angels, Dark Angels, Night Lords, demons, and dark mech all in one book. It needed to be split up, especially after losing Bligh. Sucks for my 30k dorks, but such is life. I'd rather see a proper release this year even if my personal dudes aren't included. 30k needs something like that. The Weekender was a shot in the arm and the upcoming models look great, but we need a book release to show things are on the right track again.

At least White Scars won't be last now. :gbsmith:

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
Betrayal at Catlth going off sale makes sense, they already have the kits available separately. It gets a big lump off their shelves. And there's no need for an intro set for a dead game.

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods
My first Forge World kit done, a Telemon Heavy Dread:







He's a big boi.

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



Lovely Joe Stalin posted:

Betrayal at Catlth going off sale makes sense, they already have the kits available separately. It gets a big lump off their shelves. And there's no need for an intro set for a dead game.

:iceburn:

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

GuardianOfAsgaard posted:

My first Forge World kit done, a Telemon Heavy Dread:







He's a big boi.

I like this a lot. Great job.

Pendent
Nov 16, 2011

The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius
Grimey Drawer
Alright, let me preemptively apologize to those of you who hate talking about list building but I sort of want advice.

Here's the list:


Battalion Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Blood Angels)

[HQ]

-Commander Dante

-Lieutenant: Jump Pack, Master-crafted boltgun, Power sword

[Troops]
3x 5 man Intercessors with Bolt Rifles

[Fast Attack]

-Inceptors: 6 man with Assault Bolters



Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels)

[HQ]

Captain in Gravis Armour- Veritas Vitae

[Heavy Support]

-Hellblaster Squad: 5 man with rapid fire Plasma Incinerators

-Predator: 4x Lascannon

Predator: 4x Lascannon

Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium - Blood Angels)

[HQ]

-Primaris Lieutenant: Power Sword

[Elites]

-Company Veterans - 5 man with Jump packs
5x Storm Bolters
5x Chainsword


-Death Company - 10 man with jump packs
1x Power Fist
1x Thunder Hammer
1x Power Sword

-Primaris Ancient - Standard of Sacrifice

Total 1999 pts




The goal is for this to be a fairly hard but still fluffy list for friendly games against experienced players or for small tournaments.

I expect the way it plays is reasonably obvious but I'll break it down briefly:
The core concept is that the ground units form a firebase in my deployment zone with the Intercessors providing screening for the Predators, who will be tasked with either damaging large threats or popping transports. The characters provide a counter-charge threat as well as rerolls. My reserves deploy in two waves. The first wave is Dante, the Lieutenant, the Company Veterans and the Inceptors. They drop in and punch as big a hole in my opponents screen as I can manage, and with 36 S5 AP-1 and 20 S4 shots that reroll all misses and wound rolls of 1 this should hopefully be a fairly large hole. The following turn I throw the Death Company through that gap in their lines using Descent of Angels while moving the previous wave forward to support them, being very careful to get Dante and the Lieutenant into assault alongside the DC. It's not a subtle strategy but when I've used a similar approach in the past it's been pretty devastating.


I've got some bits I'd like to polish up a bit more though, and that's hopefully where you all come in.

Firstly, I'm not sure the Hellblasters or the Ancient really fit particularly well. I took the Hellblasters because I really wanted that extra CP from the Spearhead Detachment and didn't feel like my other options were particularly good as I don't have a third Predator at the moment. Would Lascannon Devastators be a better choice? They feel pretty fragile for their cost and I worry about being able to place my buffing units so that they can hit everything. For the Ancient I don't know that I have sufficient infantry nearby to justify the relic but at the same time it has the potential to be very powerful in helping to hold the line so that the Predators can keep firing.

I'm obviously lacking on board control elements. I've debated running two Battalions with the second using Scouts for the troops for a combination of board control and extra CP. It's tempting but I don't have the models and won't for some time. It is probably something I should be working toward overall.

My biggest concern is that it's very obvious what I intend to do. Taking second turn will mitigate this to an extent but I'm really curious to hear how other people would try to counter my strategy.

Pendent fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Mar 29, 2018

Anacharis Scoria
Jan 5, 2018

The Xanophane Tyrant, The Fallen Master, Lord of the Nine Cohorts, The Apostate Magister

That's so WAAC you should just go to 4chan to pirate books

Zark the Damned
Mar 9, 2013



Nice to see that even the Emo Panzees follow the rule of Red Wunz Go Fasta.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
Who would have thunk that Dark Eldar would get one of the most interesting codex

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

I'm very tempted by even a small Wych Cult army because of that Cult of the Red Grief tactic.

I just want the impossible dream of a footslogging DEldar army!

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

MonsterEnvy posted:

Who would have thunk that Dark Eldar would get one of the most interesting codex

Still waiting to see a gold necron army before passing that judgement :colbert:

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Neurolimal posted:

Still waiting to see a gold necron army before passing that judgement :colbert:

I said one of the most interesting. Not the most interesting.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

A little more info: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=2000215600299069&id=1575682476085719

I ran the Baron + Hellions in 5th and I still have 5 of them to paint up for a full blob of 20. Them supported by Reavers and Wyches being a viable thing again would be fantastic.

Living Image fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Mar 29, 2018

Irate Tree
Mar 12, 2011

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

TheChirurgeon posted:

Wych Cults Preview
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/29/codex-drukhari-preview-wych-cultsgw-homepage-post-3/

All three of the obsessions they preview are really loving good

A unit of S5 Wyches (Cult of the Cursed Blade (+1S) with Grave Lotus drugs (+1S)), with the ability to make them S6 with 2CP for a turn before they all choke? I'll buy that for a dollar.

Edit: Completely forgot that Hellions have the Wych Cult keyword. So, what's that; S6 elves on boogie boards that become S7 for a turn?

Irate Tree fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Mar 29, 2018

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Two Beans
Nov 27, 2003

dabbin' on em
Pillbug

Neurolimal posted:

Still waiting to see a gold necron army before passing that judgement :colbert:

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