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milk milk lemonade
Jul 29, 2016
I've known about impending firings for days before they were happening and I always had the hardest time interacting normally with people when I knew.


Also I worked at a large financial institution that would warn people ahead of time that they were considering firing them. Sometimes they weren't fired. I felt like it was an insane system.

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pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Jerk McJerkface posted:

Is this a theoretical or did it happen?

When I worked for a hedgefund, they'd have me onsite, and they'd call people into a meeting and during the meeting I'd disable their account, and once I confirmed they'd fire them and have them escorted out. You wouldn't even be allowed to go to back to your desk.

Imagine being fired on the spot, and you can't even go to your desk to gather personal effects. They'd allow the person back in later, once the office was empty besides me and their compliance officer, and they could stand by the desk while pointing at things they wanted to take, and we'd have to look through it to make sure it was theirs and not hiding anything.

It was the least favorite thing I had to do. It was awful.

I just want to know so I can disable the accounts. Nothing looks like it was done beyond a few emails to other companies cussing us out that I can forward to HR / Legal. Still need to check so much other stuff in detail, but quick glance looks like they had no idea what they were doing.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
I had a client fired their IT guy, I did their network/pbx, and he managed everything else. He was in the process of setting up a domain controller for them, and when he was fired he remoted into it and screwed it all up. When I found out, I just laughed since he did an awful job anyways (like using raid stripping, a hacked unlicensed Win2k8 version, etc), so I just reinstalled Windows Server and had an entirely new domain setup and ready in like an hour. There wasn't any users or anything configured, so he did actually zero damage.

Gunjin
Apr 27, 2004

Om nom nom

Super Soaker Party! posted:

Do you mean actual cutters, like the things you're supposed to use with zip ties? (I call them Xcelites but that's mostly because that's the brand I tend to have, I think the name is shear-cutters or something). Because those are amazing and if you do it right and not like a moron you actually leave no sharp points sticking up from the zip tie head at all. Of course if you're sloppy and don't take the extra half second to make sure the cutter blades are flush to the zip tie head then yeah, you leave points, and should also be killed by slow neck cutting with those points. And anyone who uses scissors on zip ties can loving die in a fire.

I've always called them side cutters, the problem is we inherit or get handed a lot of poo poo done by the laziest/cheapest contractors they can find and some of the racks are just a forest of jagged poo poo. Anything my group does is done right.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The douchiest firing I've witnessed was my last job in silicon valley, I was about to leave the area to move in with my future wife. About two days before I intended put in my notice my boss hinted he was going to terminate another guy in our group. He wasn't the highest quality worker in the world but he was competent and had just had a baby. Figured I'd try and help him out and clued my boss into the fact I was leaving and he was all "thanks for the offer but I think we're going to stick with our plan."

So they were out two employees that day. :iiam:

Pretty low on the jerk scale but I've had a pretty sheltered career.

psydude
Apr 1, 2008

Cogent wins the award for worst ISP ever. Last night I was helping a customer relocate their PoP and a lot of their perimeter equipment from their headquarters to their colocation facility (including the installation of a new perimeter firewall and turning up 2 new IPSec tunnels). Cogent had been delayed in getting a person out on site to double check everything and configure the router on their end for when we turned up the new equipment. When the cutover started at 5:30, they removed the old configs from the PE equipment at the old PoP and then . . . apparently went home for the day. After troubleshooting some physical layer issues, at about 9 PM a quick round of troubleshooting revealed we didn't have a BGP neighborship, so I asked the tier 1 tech on the phone to verify the BGP neighborship was still in the INIT state on his end, which he did. I then asked him to confirm the BGP settings on his end, at which point he informed me that there were no BGP configurations specific to our ASN/CE router and that the order would be filled by the service delivery team promptly at 9AM Eastern.

Incredulous, I asked the tech if he could requeue it or put is on with service delivery from another country, which he told us wasn't possible. I told the customer's IT director to have fun and then left the room laughing, because the secondary ISP's transceiver was damaged and they too had blown away their configs at the old PoP in anticipation of our move. After a bit, we found out they wouldn't have a tech on site to replace it until 3 AM. He showed up at 4. I got back to my house at 9AM after finally verifying and fixing all of the IPSec tunnels, having been awake for 26 hours straight.

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Jerk McJerkface posted:

"Nah, it's fine, I deserve a new car"

I know there's plenty more reasons to dislike the guy than this, but I hate it so much when people use that line. It doesn't matter what you deserve, or how hard you've been working. You get what you can afford, not what you deserve.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


psydude posted:

Cogent wins the award for worst ISP ever. Last night I was helping a customer relocate their PoP and a lot of their perimeter equipment from their headquarters to their colocation facility (including the installation of a new perimeter firewall and turning up 2 new IPSec tunnels). Cogent had been delayed in getting a person out on site to double check everything and configure the router on their end for when we turned up the new equipment. When the cutover started at 5:30, they removed the old configs from the PE equipment at the old PoP and then . . . apparently went home for the day. After troubleshooting some physical layer issues, at about 9 PM a quick round of troubleshooting revealed we didn't have a BGP neighborship, so I asked the tier 1 tech on the phone to verify the BGP neighborship was still in the INIT state on his end, which he did. I then asked him to confirm the BGP settings on his end, at which point he informed me that there were no BGP configurations specific to our ASN/CE router and that the order would be filled by the service delivery team promptly at 9AM Eastern.

Incredulous, I asked the tech if he could requeue it or put is on with service delivery from another country, which he told us wasn't possible. I told the customer's IT director to have fun and then left the room laughing, because the secondary ISP's transceiver was damaged and they too had blown away their configs at the old PoP in anticipation of our move. After a bit, we found out they wouldn't have a tech on site to replace it until 3 AM. He showed up at 4. I got back to my house at 9AM after finally verifying and fixing all of the IPSec tunnels, having been awake for 26 hours straight.

That sounds like an unplanned poo poo show. If you weren't doing anything from 9PM, 11PM whenever you found out someone wasn't going to be there until 3AM you should have billed for a hotel room since you can't do anything and taken a nap. Not forgetting to loot the mini bar because gently caress them.

Johnny Aztec
Jan 30, 2005

by Hand Knit

Jerk McJerkface posted:

He said "No, I'm not. I just walked in, let me get settled and have my coffee. Listen, JMJF, I know you are new and want to impress everyone, but you don't need to scramble everytime a client calls with a critical problem. Just chill out. Mark (the manager) talks a lot, but you don't have to kill yourself answering calls.


It's kind of funny that you are making GBS threads on him for this, when people in this thread have said the exact same things (albeit not when there are legit critical problems happening)

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
My favorite firing was a guy who spent his Friday asking clients if they would switch to his new company he was starting in a few weeks. We had a quick but interesting conversation about that at 8am Monday.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:
Can anyone help me with a WDS problem? Some DELL computer models boot fine, some don't. After trying jsut about everything, I've resorted to capturing traffic and it's mostly the same. Both get a DHCP ACK with the right data. The PCs that don't work send a DHCP release a little bit before, and also send a ICMP Port Unreachable right after receiving the DHCP ACK (with Source IP 0.0.0.0).
If anyone could take the time to help me with this, I'd really appreciate it.

sixth and maimed
Mar 20, 2012

Fun Shoe
Shitiest fireing I was in my first job. The company was going down the drain, so every three months they'd lay off a bunch of people. Always less then 10% of the workforce because of local specific restructuring laws. So, one guy's phone would started rining and he'd go to the manager's office, then another guy's phone would ring, etc.

They also tried to gently caress us on the severance packages.

dogstile
May 1, 2012

fucking clocks
how do they work?
Shittiest firing i've ever seen was when an installs guy was let off during probation for "not getting along well with the team".

What actually happened was that the company boss saw him smoking a few streets down from the office (dude wasn't even wearing his company jumper) and he doesn't like smokers. The guy he fired wasn't allowed to go to his desk to get his bag. Boss called him unclean during the firing too.

Not that it stopped the guy. He also smashed his monitor while he was there. Don't really blame him either.

On a different note, I feel like I need it explained to me exactly why its my fault that the monthly backup back at the start of the year being empty is my fault when I only started doing them four months ago. I've been in this argument for about three weeks now. I have only touched the backup to put it into the drive. The backup is empty. I cannot magic the data. gently caress off.

Super Slash
Feb 20, 2006

You rang ?
Goddamn I hate panicking and short fuses, yesterday I pretty much had to explain why I didn't immediately to a full-scale investigation because a handful of people were having phone problems.
(I accidentally fueled the fire by stating I'm looking at the company status page now with 10 active calls, so I said if 10 people come to me in the next few minutes then I know we have a problem)

I pretty much sent over my working process for phone issues, and specifically told them in kind terms to not loving panic and cause a shitstorm among the office as I'm pretty keen on knowing when we have a legit problem and when people are loving up their phone calls.

Issue;
- Couple inbound cell phone fails because of their lovely signal
- Couple premature hangups when transferring calls
- One unknown but PABX logs don't indicate an issue on our end

Super Slash fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Oct 19, 2016

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
If you have an out of office notification set for every day on your non working hours, you suck rear end.

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Know what's cool about working in an office full of 65+ year old ladies? They're never hot enough to turn the AC on. They sit there in their little grandma sweaters even when it's 85 degrees. ITS CHILLY IN HERE!

The gently caress it isn't, Beatrice. Retire already!

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

Bigass Moth posted:

If you have an out of office notification set for every day on your non working hours, you suck rear end.

I did this at my last job because clients would e-mail us late at night and then bitch about us not getting back to them (we had an emergency line for after hours work and somebody was always on-call to answer it.)

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.

Bigass Moth posted:

If you have an out of office notification set for every day on your non working hours, you suck rear end.

Are you afraid all the extra emails are going to plug up the tubes?

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!

Bob Morales posted:

Know what's cool about working in an office full of 65+ year old ladies? They're never hot enough to turn the AC on. They sit there in their little grandma sweaters even when it's 85 degrees. ITS CHILLY IN HERE!

The gently caress it isn't, Beatrice. Retire already!

Start an arms race, sweaters vs http://www.veskimo.com/why-best-cooling-vest.php

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

Bob Morales posted:

Know what's cool about working in an office full of 65+ year old ladies? They're never hot enough to turn the AC on. They sit there in their little grandma sweaters even when it's 85 degrees. ITS CHILLY IN HERE!

The gently caress it isn't, Beatrice. Retire already!

Contrary: office full of women hitting 50 and all getting hot flushes.

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

totalnewbie posted:

Are you afraid all the extra emails are going to plug up the tubes?

It's just annoying but maybe I am in the minority who understands most people don't work 24/7.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


SEKCobra posted:

Can anyone help me with a WDS problem? Some DELL computer models boot fine, some don't. After trying jsut about everything, I've resorted to capturing traffic and it's mostly the same. Both get a DHCP ACK with the right data. The PCs that don't work send a DHCP release a little bit before, and also send a ICMP Port Unreachable right after receiving the DHCP ACK (with Source IP 0.0.0.0).
If anyone could take the time to help me with this, I'd really appreciate it.

Try it on a different switch

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat
Sometimes the delay in network link that STP on the switch causes conflicts with the timeout on DHCP acquisition on the network interface.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Sometimes the delay in network link that STP on the switch causes conflicts with the timeout on DHCP acquisition on the network interface.

"port fast" is the keyword to search for dealing with that.

MrBling
Aug 21, 2003

Oozing machismo
The other day someone learned, during a UPS test, that the ageing voip/softphone system does not handle a power outage gracefully.

All phones in the callcenter died around 13.00 and were out until closing at 16.00. Luckily the customers didn't seem to mind terribly much as we didn't get any appreciable amount of extra calls the following day.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Sometimes the delay in network link that STP on the switch causes conflicts with the timeout on DHCP acquisition on the network interface.

I read about that, but I couldn't find a cause, since the working and non working PCs are consistent on the same interface.

baquerd
Jul 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

MrBling posted:

The other day someone learned, during a UPS test, that the ageing voip/softphone system does not handle a power outage gracefully.

I once worked in a an office tower with some sort of primary building UPS's when the power went out entirely (building full of servers, financial traders, etc.). Turns out some guy put the wrong UPS into pass-through mode before testing that the battery back-up worked. Since I was working the night shift, I got to wake up the CEO at 2AM.

Super-NintendoUser
Jan 16, 2004

COWABUNGERDER COMPADRES
Soiled Meat

SEKCobra posted:

I read about that, but I couldn't find a cause, since the working and non working PCs are consistent on the same interface.

Are the working and non-working PCs the same model? Is the BIOS firmware (or whatever controls WDS) the same? I'm not familiar with WDS, but it's some kind of remote OS installation tool, right? Is it PXE based?

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Are the working and non-working PCs the same model? Is the BIOS firmware (or whatever controls WDS) the same? I'm not familiar with WDS, but it's some kind of remote OS installation tool, right? Is it PXE based?

We have noticed that some dell models are needing bios updates to function correctly in MDT which the bootdisk is delivered through WDS. You are probably right.

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Jerk McJerkface posted:

Sometimes the delay in network link that STP on the switch causes conflicts with the timeout on DHCP acquisition on the network interface.

Any network engineer using standard STP in TYOOL 2016 deserves to be flogged with a cat o' nine tails made of ethernet cables.

edit: ESPECIALLY on edge ports.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Make them walk on a bed of trimmed zip ties.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Sickening posted:

We have noticed that some dell models are needing bios updates to function correctly in MDT which the bootdisk is delivered through WDS. You are probably right.

We tried BIOS updates, didn't change it. And no, the models are different, we got a few desktops and a laptop that aren't working. I'll check on STP tomorrow, but I kinda doubt it.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

SEKCobra posted:

We tried BIOS updates, didn't change it. And no, the models are different, we got a few desktops and a laptop that aren't working. I'll check on STP tomorrow, but I kinda doubt it.

Can you boot the computers with the wds image with the network taken out of the loop? IE, using a thumb drive? (wds imagine on the boot drive)

This is why mdt is just superior to WDS.

Sickening fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Oct 19, 2016

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

SEKCobra posted:

We tried BIOS updates, didn't change it. And no, the models are different, we got a few desktops and a laptop that aren't working. I'll check on STP tomorrow, but I kinda doubt it.
You're going to need to provide network drivers for each model on your image.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

anthonypants posted:

You're going to need to provide network drivers for each model on your image.

... This has nothing to do with PXE failing and comes at a far later stage.

SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Sickening posted:

Can you boot the computers with the wds image with the network taken out of the loop? IE, using a thumb drive? (wds imagine on the boot drive)

This is why mdt is just superior to WDS.

Doesn't MDT still use WDS? So if the basis isn't working, how would it work?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

SEKCobra posted:

... This has nothing to do with PXE failing and comes at a far later stage.
Then you should've said they're failing to boot from PXE? You said it was a WDS problem but this sounds more like a DHCP problem.

SEKCobra posted:

Doesn't MDT still use WDS?
No.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

anthonypants posted:

Then you should've said they're failing to boot from PXE? You said it was a WDS problem but this sounds more like a DHCP problem.
No.

The answer is more "it can" but its not required.

Also computers can fail pxe and it not be a network problem at all. Considering other computers can pxe just fine leads me to believe its not a network problem at all if the location of the network is controlled. WinPE can fail for all sorts of reasons. Boot disk image is too big for the computer, incorrect drivers, bugs in firmware, etc.

As far as MDT vs WDS goes, I feel like MDT has had more development time than WDS has in the last 5 years. As buggy as MDT is, I feel like WDS is only good for hosting boot disks at this point and shouldn't be your primary imaging system.

Serfer
Mar 10, 2003

The piss tape is real



SEKCobra posted:

I read about that, but I couldn't find a cause, since the working and non working PCs are consistent on the same interface.

Are the sets of machines that work vs not work uefi vs bios? I had to set my dhcp servers to failover instead of load balance because uefi machines would always pull from one, and bios always the other

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SEKCobra
Feb 28, 2011

Hi
:saddowns: Don't look at my site :saddowns:

Serfer posted:

Are the sets of machines that work vs not work uefi vs bios? I had to set my dhcp servers to failover instead of load balance because uefi machines would always pull from one, and bios always the other

Nope, also tried switching between Legacy and UEFI mode.

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