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The queen is a lovely old lady who waved at me once and I would love to have tea with her, thank you very much.
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CLAM DOWN posted:The queen is a lovely old lady who waved at me once and I would love to have tea with her, thank you very much. She seems super nice! But gently caress her! Don't want her near the government, don't want her on the money, don't want to celebrate the fact that we were part of the British Empire and Canadians and Irish got conscripted to fight their wars against other peoples' countries they had colonised on Remembrance Day! gently caress the idea that anyone is "destined" to rule over other people simply because she came out of an extremely fortunate vagina. But I mean, it's all a moving goalpost. My super Catholic in-laws are against gay marriage, are they barred from moving here if they want to? What about the Evangelical Christians who show up at my door every few weeks because their church specifically tells them to come to my house and tell me I'm going to a hell I do believe in? What about Prime Ministers who ignore several hundred murdered and missing women and girls for decades and say their deaths and disappearances aren't "high on his radar"? Are those Canadian values? I want to take it right to her lovely face, is all I'm saying.
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Nov 16, 2016 19:07
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Duck Rodgers posted:I think we're confusing what we mean by the left again here. I mean the actual left, the activists organizing, protesting, and participating in politics in the street. People who are demanding expanded healthcare, free education, higher wages, the end of various discriminations. These people, and those who agree with them, should not be privileging the white working class in grassroots organizing Sorry, I'm still stuck in a US election frame of mind. 
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Nov 16, 2016 19:09
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Part of coming to Canada means giving up the grudges from the homeland, even if they're understandable ones like the Irish distaste for British (or Canadian) monarchs.
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Nov 16, 2016 19:09
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sitchensis posted:Apparently Kellie Leitch has raised the most fundraising dollars out of all candidates in the CPC leadership race. The media is covering her pretty thoroughly, too -- in fact, her name is the only one I remember running for CPC leadership. Is Kenney running? I don't know or care to find out. I just keep hearing about Kellie. This does feel awfully familiar, doesn't it?
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Nov 16, 2016 19:28
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Lobok posted:CRTC chair calling out Rogers for not knowing what to do if they ever actually had to be competitive: This is funny because their business is dead and they ditched the one thing that might have saved them. It probably wouldn't have, since it had to compete with Netflix, but Shomi was the only thing they had.
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Nov 16, 2016 19:45
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sitchensis posted:Apparently Kellie Leitch has raised the most fundraising dollars out of all candidates in the CPC leadership race. The media is covering her pretty thoroughly, too -- in fact, her name is the only one I remember running for CPC leadership. Is Kenney running? I don't know or care to find out. I just keep hearing about Kellie. Kenney isn't running, because he's busy trying to Unite the Right in Alberta. Lobok posted:CRTC chair calling out Rogers for not knowing what to do if they ever actually had to be competitive: gently caress yes.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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McGavin posted:This is funny because their business is dead and they ditched the one thing that might have saved them. It probably wouldn't have, since it had to compete with Netflix, but Shomi was the only thing they had. Good, gently caress the major telecoms, they can't die soon enough E: condolences to the people who will be out of a job though TheKingofSprings fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 16, 2016 |
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Nov 16, 2016 19:52
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Rogers has another trick in the pipeline and still has the rights to the media for a while yet.
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Nov 16, 2016 19:56
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As long as whatever streaming service they launch works on every internet connected device possible and not just your phone/xbox360/cable boxes made in the last 2 years then it has a 1000% better chance of being more successful than Shomi. Part of Netflix' appeal is it's accessible on everything I own.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:03
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Yeah when I was getting my internet hooked up the shaw guy was whining and whining that no one under 30 gets cable tv anymore and that's so bad for the country and short-sighted because if no one pays for TV shaw will have to raise other rates or even fire some of its staff. drat millennials sabotaging the economy and putting telco jobs at risk and FORCING them to over-charge for internet. There was a real "oh think you're saving money by not getting TV? Well you'll be paying the difference when we're forced to raise your internet rates!" attitude. Fuuuuuck you. Nationalize internet services and fire the lot of these gormless rent-seeking sacks of poo poo that make up our telco capitalist class.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:15
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Risky Bisquick posted:Rogers has another trick in the pipeline and still has the rights to the media for a while yet. Yeah, it's not truly dead until we saw the content pop up on Crave or Netflix, so they're keeping it either to keep from someone else profiting off of it or because they have other ideas.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:17
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I don't want to subscribe to a dozen different services. I don't care if they call it netflix or buttshows or what ever, but I want one "tv" bill a month which gives me access to everything forever. Netflix is ok, but it often doesn't have what you want due to dated licensing deals. I'd love to see something where any service can carry any show, in fact there'd be laws against "exclusive" content to certain platforms, and the content creators get paid based on views at set rate regardless of platform, but subscribers don't need to count views they just pay a set monthly rate, or by view time, or how ever the platform wants to charge. But every show or movie is available on every platform and nothing ever expires or goes away. We'd have to fire a lot of people who deserve to be shot into the sun to get this done, so it's win win.
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Nov 16, 2016 20:25
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Lobok posted:CRTC chair calling out Rogers for not knowing what to do if they ever actually had to be competitive: As someone who finally went to Europe for the first time with a smartphone: gently caress the Canadian telecos. I've basically taken every opportunity I can to remind just about anyone who'll listen about how much we pay (despite the bitching, most Canadians were still shocked).
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Nov 16, 2016 20:32
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Baronjutter posted:I don't want to subscribe to a dozen different services. I don't care if they call it netflix or buttshows or what ever, but I want one "tv" bill a month which gives me access to everything forever. Netflix is ok, but it often doesn't have what you want due to dated licensing deals. Everything's fragmented. I subscribe to music, comics, and TV/film providers but none of them are exhaustive or complete without subscribing to a bunch of other services.
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mojo1701a posted:As someone who finally went to Europe for the first time with a smartphone: gently caress the Canadian telecos. I've basically taken every opportunity I can to remind just about anyone who'll listen about how much we pay (despite the bitching, most Canadians were still shocked). You went to Europe? You a d PT6A should have a chat.
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the trump tutelage posted:Sorry, I'm still stuck in a US election frame of mind. It's a hell of a hangover. In other news UMFA (U of Manitoba Faculty Association) has been on strike since November 1st. The U of M has been slow in adopting the university as corporation model pioneered by Carelton, but they're now trying to catch up and UMFA doesn't like it. From Radhika Desai http://www.themanitoban.com/2016/11/the-u-of-m-stands-at-a-historic-crossroads/29807/ quote:Why has this now come to a head? Not because UMFA leadership has unilaterally decided to be intransigent – as its flexibility on salaries shows. Rather, it is the membership that has decided ‘enough is enough.’ Extensive surveys revealed that practically all UMFA members are sufficiently affected and alienated by whatever combination of these problems they confront that they have told UMFA to prioritize them. That is why support for the strike is strong.
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Lobok posted:CRTC chair calling out Rogers for not knowing what to do if they ever actually had to be competitive: This may also be related: http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/11/16/amazon-prime-video-could-be-coming-to-canada/ Shomi may have had its rights picked up by Amazon but I guess we'll know next month.
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are canadian values/culture even a real thing that can be appealed to? i think trump managed to win the white house by exploiting a toxic american identity that insists you are american or an outsider but that requires a strong american identity i don't think running the same platform in canada works unless you can foster that identity first
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Nov 16, 2016 23:10
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Obviously it's just a dog whistle and she really means white judeo christian values, because to me multiculturalism and tolerance seems like a pretty big component of Canadian values.
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Nov 16, 2016 23:21
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Ask 10 people what "Canadian values" is/are and you'll get 11 different answers. Well, I guess "we're not America" will be the common one.
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Nov 16, 2016 23:47
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the talent deficit posted:are canadian values/culture even a real thing that can be appealed to? Are you referring to the melting pot vs multiculturalism thing? I think its really understated how much of that weird identity politics has bled into Canada and our culture over the last 2 decades. Its possible (with our typically low voter turnout and a healthy dose of suppressing the left) to probably win an election campaigning the way Trump did here whether you want to believe it or not. We dont have to wait long to see how it turns out either because I expect Patrick Brown to put it into full swing in 2017.
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A group doesn't need a specific list of traits or ideals to get on the whole us vs them train. What does it mean to be a Canadian? It's a pure gut-feeling emotional thing. A good and real Canadian acts in a way I like and I can understand and has values that match my own. I don't even know what my values are, that's way too much introspection, but I can feel it in my gut. You can tell quickly by looking at someone, or with a short conversation or soundbite I can tell if a politician is one of us or them. They look like me or my family and friends, they like the same things we like, and they are against the things that make me uncomfortable, scared or angry about. A ton of people vote and pick their politics on these sort of feelings, some dress it up after they've already let their gut make up their mind, but most people don't even know what their own values are, let alone the values or politics of the people they're voting for. It's all about feelings.
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sitchensis posted:Apparently Kellie Leitch has raised the most fundraising dollars out of all candidates in the CPC leadership race. The media is covering her pretty thoroughly, too -- in fact, her name is the only one I remember running for CPC leadership. Is Kenney running? I don't know or care to find out. I just keep hearing about Kellie. 
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Nov 16, 2016 23:59
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Guess all those numbers showing direct correlations between racist attitudes and unemployment income inequality are proven right once again.
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Canadians elected Rab Ferd I'm sure we could find it in ourselves to elect a Trump
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Eej posted:Canadians elected Rab Ferd I'm sure we could find it in ourselves to elect a Trump You don't even have to be xenophobic. Just tell a bunch of lies about how you're going to make owning a house affordable for 90% of Canadians and you'll be swept to power. Anyone who criticizes you? They're an elitist from Toronto! Someone's gonna do it.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:You don't even have to be xenophobic. Just tell a bunch of lies about how you're going to make owning a house affordable for 90% of Canadians and you'll be swept to power. Anyone who criticizes you? They're an elitist from Toronto! SWO is Solid Blue already though. Like I know people who hate the tories for being Toronto elites.
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peter banana posted:the reason minorities have made gains (insufficient as they are) That just made it a-ok through all the filters eh?
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sitchensis posted:Apparently Kellie Leitch has raised the most fundraising dollars out of all candidates in the CPC leadership race. The media is covering her pretty thoroughly, too -- in fact, her name is the only one I remember running for CPC leadership. Is Kenney running? I don't know or care to find out. I just keep hearing about Kellie. One thing that reassures me is that while Leitch can steal Trump's rhetoric she can't steal his personality; everything I've seen of her suggests she has the charisma of a wet towel and everything about her background means she'll struggle to sell 'anti-establishment'. But after the last few weeks I'm not going to rule anything out, vote y'all.
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Eej posted:Canadians elected Rab Ferd I'm sure we could find it in ourselves to elect a Trump Rab? Sounds Indian. No thanks! 
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Gonna gain 300 pounds and run for mayor of Toronto as Rod Fjord, I hear there's a lot of good blow available if you can pull it off.
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Wistful of Dollars posted:You went to Europe? You a d PT6A should have a chat. Nah. I can't stand tobacco smoke at all.
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Just be careful, guys. We don't want to ruin the good name of deceased former mayor of Toronto, Robert Bruce Ford because it is disrespectful and all.
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Fallen Hamprince posted:One thing that reassures me is that while Leitch can steal Trump's rhetoric she can't steal his personality; everything I've seen of her suggests she has the charisma of a wet towel and everything about her background means she'll struggle to sell 'anti-establishment'. But after the last few weeks I'm not going to rule anything out, vote y'all. Also didn't Harper already try the nativist campaign and lose? I mean they can try it again but it'll just have the same results as last time...
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the talent deficit posted:are canadian values/culture even a real thing that can be appealed to? I would tend to agree. With the monarchist backing and peacekeeping false pride and all that poo poo we can't exactly claim manifest destiny as a character trait. Also people seem to forget the path to victory for the Cons being carrying the prairies and a good deal of Ontario. And even though I hate them, the cons are for the most part left of the GOP.
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Gorewar posted:Also didn't Harper already try the nativist campaign and lose? I mean they can try it again but it'll just have the same results as last time... He didn't try it loud enough or long enough, and he tried it while attempting to hang on to power instead of attempting to depose a Liberal after years of their rule. When our economy tanks under Trudeau whoever does this during the next election will win. If it's not the NDP or some sort of left leaning coalition then we're on a one way ticket to fascist fucktown
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It's not going to be the prairies putting the con's back into power. It's going to be toronto suburbs voting against taxes, throwing muslims under the bus for an extra $430 a year, and quebec voters throwing muslims under the bus to see muslims being crushed by a bus.
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Gorewar posted:Also didn't Harper already try the nativist campaign and lose? I mean they can try it again but it'll just have the same results as last time... Tighclops posted:He didn't try it loud enough or long enough, and he tried it while attempting to hang on to power instead of attempting to depose a Liberal after years of their rule. When our economy tanks under Trudeau whoever does this during the next election will win. If it's not the NDP or some sort of left leaning coalition then we're on a one way ticket to fascist fucktown to that point people who said that "the ethnic group I belong to is an important reflection of who I am" and were reminded that white people were in demographic decline were more likely to vote Trump than people who were given a benign article about demographic sorting. The same thing happened with men who were just asked to think about their wife's earnings. It works the other way too - women were more likely to support Clinton after the gender prime, and liberal whites less likely to support Trump after being given the demographic prime, but the overall effect on both was anti-Clinton. Just actually explicitly making a racist or sexist argument can actually convert people to your side.  
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