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Mange Mite posted:Isn't that car basically a Taurus The outgoing US spec Taurus was/is built on the old Ford D3 platform, the new Chinese market Taurus and Continental are built on the new Ford CD4 'one Ford' platform. Basically a modified Fusion platform.
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Mange Mite posted:Isn't that car basically a Taurus Worse, it's a Fusion, even cheaper.
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Apr 13, 2016 17:39
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All that and the distinctive style and personality of... something.
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Apr 13, 2016 17:49
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I've always been put off by that site's name. I know it's been around forever but I keep expecting tangents about how the industry suppresses knowledge of the pill you put in your gas tank that lets you get 200 mpg.
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Apr 13, 2016 18:06
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Mange Mite posted:Isn't that car basically a Taurus
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Apr 13, 2016 20:20
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No, MINI, don't do that! http://www.motoringfile.com/2016/04/13/report-minis-5th-model-to-be-a-sedan/
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Apr 13, 2016 22:18
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Apr 13, 2016 22:25
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Considering how hard companies are bending to the will of the chinese market, it's probably going to be based on the 7 series.
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Apr 13, 2016 22:30
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Powershift posted:Considering how hard companies are bending to the will of the chinese market, it's probably going to be based on the 7 series. Long wheelbase 7 series.
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Apr 13, 2016 22:46
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Sigma X posted:TST posted a video today of the Boxster S featuring the new 350 HP, 319ft/lb VVT Turbo four-banger and drat does it sound bad. I'm a little late but man that sounds terribl, and this is from someone who went directly from a dp+catback WRX to a 987 I still enjoy driving the WRX but if the Cayman sounded anythign like it I think I'd be embarrassed to drive it around
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Apr 14, 2016 00:24
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I finally saw a Lexus RC350 today for the first time. I thought it was a Scion until I got right on top of it. Not a good looking car, and it looks a LOT like a cheap one.
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Apr 14, 2016 00:32
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angryhampster posted:I finally saw a Lexus RC350 today for the first time. I thought it was a Scion until I got right on top of it. It also puts down roughly the same performance numbers as a V6 camry, at least in F-sport trim.
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Apr 14, 2016 00:43
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Powershift posted:It also puts down roughly the same performance numbers as a V6 camry, at least in F-sport trim. I've been seeing these, I had no idea that they were >$40k. They look plasticky and cheap, and I guess the 350 F-Sport is gunning for the V6 Mustang? The RC is about a hundred pounds more.
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Apr 14, 2016 00:52
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Twerk from Home posted:I've been seeing these, I had no idea that they were >$40k. They look plasticky and cheap, and I guess the 350 F-Sport is gunning for the V6 Mustang? The RC is about a hundred pounds more. They are pretty lame and the RC-F is too expensive. Interiors are sharp though
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Apr 14, 2016 02:06
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Powershift posted:It also puts down roughly the same performance numbers as a V6 camry, at least in F-sport trim. Holy poo poo, the 2016 V6 Camry's put out 268 HP. That's the same as a 2016 WRX. I...I need to sit down for a second.
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Apr 14, 2016 04:24
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dk2m posted:Holy poo poo, the 2016 V6 Camry's put out 268 HP. That's the same as a 2016 WRX. This has been going on for a while now though?
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Apr 14, 2016 04:27
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Powershift posted:It also puts down roughly the same performance numbers as a V6 camry, at least in F-sport trim. Same engine, but like 40 more HP. Plus, RWD should put that power down better. However, the fucker weights like 3900lbs, so there goes all that extra power. Pr0kjayhawk posted:Yeah that just sounds like a bucket of farts. That video sounds like a bucket of farts too, with all the artificial pops.
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Apr 14, 2016 04:30
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dk2m posted:Holy poo poo, the 2016 V6 Camry's put out 268 HP. That's the same as a 2016 WRX. Don't calm down: 8th pax http://www.delta-scca.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/march_2016_pax_wo_de.htm
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Apr 14, 2016 04:56
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Mat_Drinks posted:I'm not going to argue that it sounds great for a 4 (like the CLA/GLA which is hilariously nutty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeogOKJdSg), but come on, it doesn't sound bad. I drove a GLA45 the other day. It actually *woofs* on full throttle upshifts. Something I've never heard out of a car before.
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Apr 14, 2016 08:10
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oRenj9 posted:That video sounds like a bucket of farts too, with all the artificial pops. Artificial pops? Are you saying that Porsche artificially leans out the exhaust to intentionally make the popping/crackling noise?
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Apr 14, 2016 09:00
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The Boxster sounds like crap but hey at least it will probably get .5 mpg more now.pik_d posted:This has been going on for a while now though? Yeah that's not particularly impressive, the I6 3 series had 270hp like ten years ago.
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Apr 14, 2016 10:51
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Sagebrush posted:Artificial pops? Closest I could find. http://blog.caranddriver.com/tech-dive-in-depth-with-the-new-porsche-718-boxsters-turbocharged-flat-fours/ posted:To maintain responsiveness even when the driver lifts off the gas, Porsche briefly leaves the throttle open while retarding the timing, cutting fuel, and shutting the wastegate, essentially pumping air through to the turbo to keep it spinning; get back on the gas quickly, and the turbo’s already in play—no waiting for it to spool up. In the “Sport” drive mode (the middle option on cars with the Sport Chrono package), the programming is less aggressive in cutting fuel, allowing for “emotional” exhaust pops and burbles on overrun. In Sport Plus mode, the programming prioritizes airflow to the turbo, leaving the exhaust relatively subdued on overrun. I remember Top Gear mentioning some car (M3?) injecting fuel directly into the exhaust manifold, resulting in pops on throttle lift. They presented it as if its sole purpose was to make NOIIIIISE but I guess it could also cool down the exhaust.
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Apr 14, 2016 13:41
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Huh. Interesting. My motorcycles pop and burble on deceleration, but they come by it honestly because they're carbureted, dammit. The Hawk GT even makes a nice POW with every partial-throttle upshift.
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Apr 14, 2016 18:11
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Fake exhaust notes and simulated sportiness are the way of the future my friend.
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Apr 14, 2016 18:20
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I have an off road h-pipe and the pops and crackles I get on high rpms are great. Don't need no speakers to pipe it in the cabin. 
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Apr 14, 2016 18:36
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a primate posted:Closest I could find. So in other words it's an anti-lag system. Arent those supposed to be super loud? If so that's probably it.
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Apr 14, 2016 19:11
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They should make speakers that just pipe in the sounds of someone making vroom-vroom noises in cars. Get on it Tesla!
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Apr 14, 2016 19:11
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Emptyquote this post in 30 years when the only people who care about how much noise a car makes or whether it has a grill are the out of touch fossils who are ridiculed like we ridicule the last few senile AOL subscribers today.
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Apr 14, 2016 19:37
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ExplodingSims posted:They should make speakers that just pipe in the sounds of someone making vroom-vroom noises in cars. BMW already does this. As usual Tesla isn't actually as innovative as their fanboys think
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Apr 14, 2016 19:42
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Pryor on Fire posted:Emptyquote this post in 30 years when the only people who care about how much noise a car makes or whether it has a grill are the out of touch fossils who are ridiculed like we ridicule the last few senile AOL subscribers today. People love cars like the 911 that don't have grilles. It's just that when it's ugly, people latch onto the first thing they notice and blame the lack of grille when really it's just a bad design.
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Apr 14, 2016 19:44
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Mange Mite posted:So in other words it's an anti-lag system. Arent those supposed to be super loud? If so that's probably it. More like how they do no-lift-shift on aftermarket tunes. Anti-lag would involve throwing fuel into the exhaust pre-turbo to keep it spooled up and it is indeed loud and pretty hard on the turbo (definitely don't think you'll ever see such a system on a road going production car.)
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Apr 14, 2016 19:56
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Mange Mite posted:BMW already does this. As usual Tesla isn't actually as innovative as their fanboys think I think you missed the joke in your rush to get that sick burn on Tesla fan boys in. I meant like, an actual person making vroom-vroom noises.
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Apr 14, 2016 20:31
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x-post - relevantRenaissance Robot posted:Still the best.
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Mange Mite posted:when really it's just a bad design. It's this. If it didn't look it was designed to have a grill on it it would be fine.
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Apr 14, 2016 21:00
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ExplodingSims posted:I think you missed the joke in your rush to get that sick burn on Tesla fan boys in. When one day I own some EV roadster that goes 0-60 in 2 seconds I hope I can set the speakers to make the noises of the "try not to laugh" video where the guy makes F1 noises with the pitch jacked up. Edit: You know, while it drives me around since humans won't be allowed to manually drive at that point. Double-edit: hah! this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk2t2hIATCU
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davebo posted:When one day I own some EV roadster that goes 0-60 in 2 seconds I hope I can set the speakers to make the noises of the "try not to laugh" video where the guy makes F1 noises with the pitch jacked up. That video eventually became this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k85mRPqvMbE And the world became a slightly shittier place to be. That loving thing was EVERYWHERE ~10 years ago. KozmoNaut fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Apr 14, 2016 |
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Apr 14, 2016 21:55
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ExplodingSims posted:I think you missed the joke in your rush to get that sick burn on Tesla fan boys in. And my joke was that it's not actually a good thing
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Apr 14, 2016 22:21
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I think we all know the true future of artificial car noises https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSOSJ68xOBA WOO WOOOO
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Apr 14, 2016 23:56
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Mange Mite posted:BMW already does this. As usual Tesla isn't actually as innovative as their fanboys think I thought it was well-publicized the Ford or someone did the fake-exhaust-note-over-speaker thing already? Like on a large scale.
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LeeMajors posted:I thought it was well-publicized the Ford or someone did the fake-exhaust-note-over-speaker thing already? Like on a large scale. Bmw was the first to admit it, and I think their version is prety much fully synthesixed (not sure though - someome correct me). Ford uses a microphone to pipe in the actual engine noise over the speakers, but processed to sound better. They use it in big volume cars like the V6 F150 and I thiNk the Mustang too.
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