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Ammat The Ankh posted:Ke$hastuck is the best goddamn AU. KE$HASTUCK posted:Your name is KE$HA. You have just woken up feeling like P. DIDDY. You also feel like you have a HANGOVER, but that’s pretty much normal. This is so loving ridiculous. Ridiculously awesome.  EDIT: If only because of this masterpiece.
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Gosh yes, more tawdry Dersite checkout rags. They're my favorite story addition in Act 6.
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Dec 10, 2012 08:35
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Like a few people the first thing I go to is that HIC captured Roxy for a prisoner exchange for Jack? But that doesn't really make sense because a) Roxy's a Derse dreamer, dunno whether Prospit would even want her and b) Roxy is way more valuable than Jack and c) Condy could have captured and exchanged Roxy ages ago and have Jack back already.
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Dec 10, 2012 08:48
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Ammat The Ankh posted:Ke$hastuck is the best goddamn AU.
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Dec 10, 2012 08:54
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I wonder why DD is in his diamonds droog dress and not his draconian dignitary duds.
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Dec 10, 2012 08:57
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Rarely does anything make me literally slack-jawed in disbelief, but holy gently caress, Ke$hastuck. Not only is it a thing but a good chunk of it is pretty well-done.
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Dec 10, 2012 09:11
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Nephthys posted:Like a few people the first thing I go to is that HIC captured Roxy for a prisoner exchange for Jack? But that doesn't really make sense because a) Roxy's a Derse dreamer, dunno whether Prospit would even want her and b) Roxy is way more valuable than Jack and c) Condy could have captured and exchanged Roxy ages ago and have Jack back already. I was thinking Dad, not Roxy, would be the prisoner exchanged. Roxy is more valuable than any agent. Rooreelooo posted:I wonder why DD is in his diamonds droog dress and not his draconian dignitary duds. Meenah is more lenient about the dress code on Derse.
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Dec 10, 2012 09:15
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Bongo Bill posted:Meenah is more lenient about the dress code on Derse. ...And then a page later, DD comments on how she stabs anyone who messes her hair up to death.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:18
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Something really bad is going to happen. I can feel it.  The new prisoner is dad, right?
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Dec 10, 2012 10:19
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The new prisoner is mentioned to be a girl and is clearly Roxy.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:20
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Yeah, it's Roxy. I love the narration for the Midnight Crew members.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:21
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So I guess the Batterwitch really is up to something... the only question is what. Also the other only question is: will it work? Previously I'd have said no considering how unstoppable and formidable Lord English is, but now that its become apparent he probably a mentally handicapped manchild, I'd guess Betty Starscream has a chance to pull one over on him.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:21
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Cake. What with mention of her being oin the kitchen a lot, she's baking a cake to replace the one Jane flipped and is gonna invite all the kids over for a reconciliatory party.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:26
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Ammat The Ankh posted:So I guess the Batterwitch really is up to something... the only question is what. Without Doc Scratch's nigh-omniscience to help him out, Lord English is far more likely to err. Doc Scratch couldn't see through Void, so Lord English's knowledge of session B2 is limited to what Caliborn saw through the towers. Despite the fact that he is always already here, I don't think we're likely to discover that Lord English has been in the session all along, because laying low just doesn't seem his style. So in other words, 4/13 doesn't mean the day Lord English arrives on top of everything else. If DD's is correct to suspect that the order to leave the nobles alone until that date came from Lord English, then why.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:30
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Clearly she and/or LE needed the kids to get in the game (hence the pressure until they did) and play for a while (hence the lack of pressure after entry). It's odd, though, because if they were just waiting for them to achieve some kind of in-game milestone, they wouldn't have set this date in advance, unless they knew it was going to happen - which it probably isn't (though we still haven't seen Dirk and he did mention a special dungeon...), because they're all separated and busy with emotional problems and everyone else is about to burst in. Which is another possible reason for waiting until Jane's birthday, though I can't imagine why you'd wait for your opponents' reinforcements to arrive before engaging. I mean, "this is what Caliborn remembers seeing on his monitor-trees" is true but would be kind of a lame reason. Homestuck is full of circular causation, of course, but it's usually also come fairly naturally out of the relevant characters' aims and personalities. There's surely something else going on. He's still playing games, I suppose; I don't expect 4/13 will bring the sort of straightforward conflict DD seems to be anticipating here. It'll probably become at least a little clearer once we know more about what the Condesce is up to, which may happen soon now that she's made a move and grabbed one of the players.
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Dec 10, 2012 10:46
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Maybe they're waiting for jade to turn up and dump all her planets into the incipisphere. Once the fully prototyped battlefield is present, and the genesis frog is simmering inside the forge, then all the components of a new universe are in play and the session can be potentially played to completion. It will likely become a race to see who can get to the new universe first and rule it as a god IN the red corner, we have the humans - four gods and four overemotional divided teens IN the blue corded we have the batterwitch an all her dersite minions WILDCARD option, we have jack noir imprisoned and being watched by caliborn
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Dec 10, 2012 11:29
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I think they're waiting for the meteor to enter and subsequently leave the session, such that Caliborn can eventually be born, and enter/beat his session.
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Dec 10, 2012 11:36
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Obscure Risk posted:I think they're waiting for the meteor to enter and subsequently leave the session, such that Caliborn can eventually be born, and enter/beat his session. As far as we know, the meteor just has to crash on earth, which must then be moved by "its proprietor." That alone doesn't require Derse to leave the Nobles alone. But predestination does seem like a good point.
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Dec 10, 2012 11:40
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Ammat The Ankh posted:So I guess the Batterwitch really is up to something... the only question is what. She could be trying to utilize Roxy's void powers as a defense against Lord English; maybe he can't already be here if he doesn't know where here is. It seems like the story has contrived to make Void powers ineffectual, though - all the bad guys can see through them now. I guess she could casually borrow a cup or a bag or a
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Dec 10, 2012 12:06
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Welp, Ke$hastuck is basically the first stupid Tumblr AU to be just about hilarious.
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Dec 10, 2012 12:25
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Two Inch Bee posted:She could be trying to utilize Roxy's void powers as a defense against Lord English; maybe he can't already be here if he doesn't know where here is. It seems like the story has contrived to make Void powers ineffectual, though - all the bad guys can see through them now. At the very least, she can borrow GCat, unless I forget a reason that won't work.
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Dec 10, 2012 12:28
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Two Inch Bee posted:She could be trying to utilize Roxy's void powers as a defense against Lord English; maybe he can't already be here if he doesn't know where here is. It seems like the story has contrived to make Void powers ineffectual, though - all the bad guys can see through them now. I agree that the speculation of the Condensce trying to use Roxy to hide from LE is looking really likely now. DD's thoughts at the end of the update seem to not-so-subtly hint at that being the case. But whats this about green flames? She can just fork her on the questbed on Derse, right?
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Dec 10, 2012 12:30
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Nephthys posted:I agree that the speculation of the Condensce trying to use Roxy to hide from LE is looking really likely now. DD's thoughts at the end of the update seem to not-so-subtly hint at that being the case. It's been theorized that a death on the Quest Cryptbed has to be done via the flames of the Green Sun in order for the person to God Tier - that's been how all three of our God Tiers that died in such a situation died (Aradia to Jack's green flames, Rose/Dave in making the Green Sun) and Hussie has explicitly said "it may or may not be a requirement".
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Dec 10, 2012 12:47
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piemanmoo posted:So they're all starved to death then? There's DAD with them, and his infinite supply of cakes.
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Dec 10, 2012 13:28
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Bongo Bill posted:Exchanging prisoners doesn't count as an apology. Apologizing means admitting you did something wrong; exchanging prisoners just means trading something you don't want for something you do. Also, if you're a total psychopath, you implant a bomb in the prisoner you're exchanging so after you make the exchange, you can laugh and laugh and laugh... Or go the Manchurian Candidate route. Tons of options.
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Dec 10, 2012 14:01
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Cabbit posted:Browsing that Ke$ha tag has informed me that kids today have horrible taste in music. No Bouncing Souls, no Pennywise, no Screeching Weasel, nothing. I bet Caliborn is really into terrible pop punk.
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Dec 10, 2012 15:30
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Sherrard posted:I bet Caliborn is really into terrible pop punk. Caliborn is probably one of those guys who goes on about how he doesn't like music and thinks it's a distraction and waste of time. You know, part of his superior being shtick.
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Dec 10, 2012 16:46
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Dolash posted:Caliborn is probably one of those guys who goes on about how he doesn't like music and thinks it's a distraction and waste of time. You know, part of his superior being shtick. But then he ultimately loves bumping the top 10 party dance hits that show up on the radio. And he sings along.
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Dec 10, 2012 16:47
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Aspergeoisie posted:But then he ultimately loves bumping the top 10 party dance hits that show up on the radio. And he sings along. And never, ever gets the lyrics right.
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Dec 10, 2012 16:48
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Dolash posted:Caliborn is probably one of those guys who goes on about how he doesn't like music and thinks it's a distraction and waste of time. You know, part of his superior being shtick. Music appreciation needs both hemispheres. So it would probably just sound like noise to him.
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Dec 10, 2012 16:50
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Alright, we need to bring this to the HS fanart thread. Were doing this man, etc. One last piece here to whet your appetite:  guys its lil weezy
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Dec 10, 2012 18:37
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Cabbit posted:Browsing that Ke$ha tag has informed me that kids today have horrible taste in music. No Bouncing Souls, no Pennywise, no Screeching Weasel, nothing. Like 90% of it is that anime singer thing.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:29
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I've been asking around, and I'm sure the following question has been answered in detail on some blog or something, but its still bugging me a little. What did the act of scratching A1 actually do? We know that scratching lets skaia change the portal exits. By changing the portal exits, you create a new timeline/universe in where in the conditions are different. But the ectobiology session was held in A2. And A2 only exists if A1 is scratched, and A1 can only exist if A2 exists to send its babies back through the portals. It's a standard circular, paradoxical origin much like many things in Homestuck. But that still doesn't really answer the question of what scratching A1 actually does. The simple answer is that scratching A1 changes A2's portal exits, but changed them from what is the question, as the simple fact there is an A2 means that A1 has scratched, thus there is no other possible exit for the portals. Due to its origins no such thing as an unscratched A1 can possibly exist. So how exactly does the scratching of A1 create a reset timeline/universe? I'm hung up more on what the act of scratching actually did more than the paradoxical origins of the universes.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:32
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mightygerm posted:I've been asking around, and I'm sure the following question has been answered in detail on some blog or something, but its still bugging me a little. Well, like you said, it swaps the "exits," basically meaning Kankri and Karkat swapped places, as did Latula and Terezi, and so on and so forth. Because of Meenah landing in the past instead of Feferi (and the existence of Doc Scratch as their First Guardian), Alternia develops in a completely different direction compared to Beforus. Also, as a result of Karkat and company being the SGRUB players this time, the ectobiology session actually happens, and the glitch is fixed. Since Karkat and company are a better SGRUB team in general, they also succeed in creating the Kids' universe, though due to Bec Noir's presence, fail to enter it.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:37
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The scratch doesn't so much change the portal exits as place them in flux, so that an object entering the portal emerges from both possible exits. I think this might be the source of confusion?
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Dec 10, 2012 19:39
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mightygerm posted:I've been asking around, and I'm sure the following question has been answered in detail on some blog or something, but its still bugging me a little. My theory is that the grubs from the A2 ectobiology session weren't sent back to A1 by portals, but appearified from A2 by the same process that Roxy in B2 appearified Jaspers from B1. They were then placed on the A1 meteors and sent back to their respective A1 times - so Karkat and co back to the Ancestral era, and Meenah's posse back just a few sweeps.
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Dec 10, 2012 19:51
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Supercar Gautier posted:The scratch doesn't so much change the portal exits as place them in flux, so that an object entering the portal emerges from both possible exits. I think this might be the source of confusion? Yeah, that's the bifurcation model, which explains why there are two physical copies of things like Cal and Sassacre's book in the alpha timeline. I'm more confused on what was the other possible exits for the A2 portals, because of the following: The 12 'ancestor' trolls created in A2 are bifurcated through 2 exits: 1. A1 Beforus 2. A2 Alternia ancestors In order to be paradoxically consistent, both of these 'target's so to speak have to land in order to create a Beforus that scratches its session and an Alternia that creates the 12 kid trolls. Any other "possible exits" are doomed since they don't result in the chain completing and thus ensuring their own creation. The question again loops around to "what are the A2 portal exits/possibilities before A1 is scratched", which is meaningless because due to Weird Time poo poo either A2 doesn't exist until after A1 is scratched, or that both universes always have existed in paradox space, thus A2's portals must always allow itself to be created in the alpha timeline and again you ask yourself what did the scratching actually do, since the portals couldn't have existed any other way! At this point my head hurts and I'm thinking of taking Dave's advice and stop over thinking things.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:04
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mightygerm posted:I've been asking around, and I'm sure the following question has been answered in detail on some blog or something, but its still bugging me a little. The "simplest" answer is probably that A1 was truly paradoxical - there was no ectobiology, so the A1 meteors and trolls appeared with no cause. Since an unstable time loop isn't allowed in a successful session, the scratch was necessary in order to change the destinations of the originless meteors and allow their creation. Cause and effect are kind of malleable in Homestuck, I've noticed.
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Dec 10, 2012 20:15
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mightygerm posted:Yeah, that's the bifurcation model, which explains why there are two physical copies of things like Cal and Sassacre's book in the alpha timeline. Douglas Adams posted:Anything that happens, happens.
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mightygerm posted:What did the act of scratching A1 actually do? It has been explicitly stated that the whole troll ectobiology clusterfuck was a glitch, which is to say: not a thing that has to be consistent or really make any kind of sense whatsoever. In most other circumstances this would be a pretty lovely non-answer, but the point here is to make your brain hurt so you understand just how big of a problem Lord English is that he can make these flat-out impossible things happen. e/ Also what Freudian posted.
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