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Sakurazuka posted:How did the dating girls thing work originally in Yakuza 3, some sort of hostess minigame with affection levels? I'm assuming that randomly picking them up in Japanese McDonalds wasn't the original vision. The same as Y4, I think. I haven't played Y3.
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Crappy Jack posted:Defeating Amon at the end unlocks tiny model prototype mockups of the Tower, which you can throw at opponents to create a giant explosion, obviously. There's a bomb hidden inside of the mockup of the towers and it's going to be used in some kind of assassination, so you have to take it and throw it into the sea before it blows up and kills your boss
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Captain Novolin posted:It was brand new in 1, and Saejima has a throwaway thing about how it's new, so it shouldnt be there, but what was there before can still explode. Then the ghost of the old building curses the Tower to explode in every game afterwards.
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Jan 31, 2015 10:38
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Is Yakuza 2 supposed to have a little bit of input lag? Because it's making the QTE's pretty much impossible, and the combat feels a bit slower than it probably should. I really, really wish they'd just give us the HD versions already. If the games are already translated, what's stopping them?
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Feb 1, 2015 03:42
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Captain Walker posted:Saejima and Kiryu can equip all guns, Akiyama can't equip any, and Tanimura only carries a gun to taunt with. But Crappy Jack is correct. For a man who slaughtered a bunch of people in a shooting and regrets about it he sure is eunthusiastic about shooting more people. gyrobot fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Feb 1, 2015 03:43
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Unit24 posted:Is Yakuza 2 supposed to have a little bit of input lag? Because it's making the QTE's pretty much impossible, and the combat feels a bit slower than it probably should. All modern HDTV's will give a certain amount of lag, if yours has a 'game mode' or something similarly named make sure it's turned on, though that still won't eliminate it completely.
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Feb 1, 2015 03:44
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Unit24 posted:I really, really wish they'd just give us the HD versions already. If the games are already translated, what's stopping them? Sega doesn't like good ideas. I'm genuinely curious, how much money it would have cost to localize 1&2 HD compared to how much it cost to port 1&2 HD to the WiiU, and how well sales for a localized version of 1&2 HD for the PS3 would have done compared to that WiiU port. I'm not saying it was an either/or situation or anything, but it kinda feels like they could have done one smart thing and decided to do a dumb thing instead.
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Feb 1, 2015 15:00
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I can't say for sure but I have to assume porting to a new system is much more expensive than implementing an already complete localization. It was a dumb move and it bit them in the rear end, I don't think that's even arguable. That said I don't think a Yakuza 1/2 HD port would do very well in the west. But, like, surely it's not a huge cost since as mentioned they already have complete localizations for both games. Like if this was a PC series fans would have done that poo poo for free.
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Feb 1, 2015 16:06
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I feel like Yakuza HD would have been a better test of interest in the series than 4 and Dead Souls. You'd think people would be more inclined to try improved versions of the first two games in the series, rather than try a game with a big 4 at the end with no prior knowledge of the series.
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Feb 1, 2015 16:15
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Really didn't need two 'run away from the ugly drag queen' side stories. 
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Sakurazuka posted:Really didn't need two 'run away from the ugly drag queen' side stories.
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Feb 1, 2015 19:05
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Ugh. Uh-oh, looks like the evil Chinese just turned up. 
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Feb 1, 2015 20:13
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I really wish I could look up Yakuza 5 gameplay without being showered in spoilers. I search Yakuza 5 Combat on Youtube, and the third video from the top is of the final boss. And a lot of the others were other boss fight spoilers.
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Unit24 posted:I really wish I could look up Yakuza 5 gameplay without being showered in spoilers. I search Yakuza 5 Combat on Youtube, and the third video from the top is of the final boss. And a lot of the others were other boss fight spoilers.
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Samurai Sanders posted:The combat isn't that much different than 4's, except I guess that's when they started adding double finishing attacks...or was that in 4? They added those in 3, actually. I just want to see the new features and animations.
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I'm at chapter 4 in Yakuza 4, and Akiyama sure seems to have a problem with women and/or people who AREN'T irresponsible fuckwits. "You mismanaged your father's business into bankruptcy? And you're male? I'll give you three chances to pass one of my tests, and when you fail I'll give you a job as president for a company, then curl you into making the "correct" choice, then lend you 5 million". "You, as a male nerd, squandered all your money trying to woo a hostess? I'll buy you expensive clothes and give you dating tips!" "You, attractive woman, spent way money than you could possibly afford? I'll give you a million to use as you see fit and then stalk you for the rest of the day! Then pay off all you debts because you managed to not waste a whole million the first day." "You took your kid and ran away from your abusive husband and want a couple hundred thousand to stay afloat? Go get a job in the red light district! BOOTSTRAPS." "You are attractive! You will work in my hostess bar and date me! It's not like you have a choice anyway." At least he takes out his long-suffering secretary for some karaoke from time to time.
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Feb 4, 2015 11:24
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Jesus, this loving infodump with the politician dude. 
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Feb 4, 2015 19:19
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Sakurazuka posted:Jesus, this loving infodump with the politician dude. This type of thing happens a lot in Yakuza. It's almost similar to how Metal Gear Solid is.
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Got my shiny new PS3 all set up yesterday and digging into Yak 3. -Man, that golf minigame is better done than most golf games out there. -Just how old is Kiryu anyway? From 2 he seemed in his mid 20s but everyone here calls him "ossan" -The level of detail in the game, even if the graphics aren't top of the line nowadays, is incredible -Thank goodness for having camera control in the city -People taking damage that would kill a normal person resulting in them sheepishly apologizing to you in the next cutscene will always make me laugh
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:Got my shiny new PS3 all set up yesterday and digging into Yak 3. Yakuza 0 - 20 years old Yakuza 1 - 27 years old / 37 years old Yakuza 2 - 38 years old Yakuza 3 - 40 years old Yakuza 4 - 41 or 42 years old Yakuza 5 - 43 years old Skeezy fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Feb 4, 2015 19:51
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Skeezy posted:This type of thing happens a lot in Yakuza. At least in MGS usually something interesting is happening in the cutscenes, not three dudes sat in a room for 25 minutes.
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Sakurazuka posted:At least in MGS usually something interesting is happening in the cutscenes, not three dudes sat in a room for 25 minutes. True. I'm pretty sure the whole sitting around talking about Yakuza stuff is a part of Yakuza cinema thing. Haven't seen that many Yakuza flicks.
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Feb 4, 2015 19:54
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Sushi in Yiddish posted:-Just how old is Kiryu anyway? From 2 he seemed in his mid 20s but everyone here calls him "ossan" Skeezy's got a good timeline in there, but yeah, remember, Kiryu spends a decade in prison for a crime he didn't commit at the beginning of Yakuza 1, so he's easily pushing mid-30's by the time the game begins. Fortunately, we're not dealing with your usual 15 year old spiky haired enthusiastic protagonist here.
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The teenage protagonist was reserved for the PSP spinoffs, but from what I've seen that kid is a budding psycho who could make Majima proud someday.
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Policenaut posted:The teenage protagonist was reserved for the PSP spinoffs, but from what I've seen that kid is a budding psycho who could make Majima proud someday. Does he show up in Yakuza 5 at all?
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Sakurazuka posted:At least in MGS usually something interesting is happening in the cutscenes, not three dudes sat in a room for 25 minutes.
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Skeezy posted:Does he show up in Yakuza 5 at all? I don't think he does, no. Black Panther is kept separate from the main series as far as I know.
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With Yak4, I assume Yak5 is the same along with Ishin, Sega are doing current-generation consoles right PS3 - 720p30 PS4 - 1080p60 Ishin isn't the prettiest but Yak4 hurts the eyes after 100+ hours of Ishin PS4. Gonna be a long time to get used to. Step up, western developers. (also Yakuza 4 is pretty great, quickly re-lit my love for yakuza flicks) Ghosts n Gopniks fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Feb 4, 2015 |
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Policenaut posted:The teenage protagonist was reserved for the PSP spinoffs, but from what I've seen that kid is a budding psycho who could make Majima proud someday. Just has a weird relationship with his dad. There's no booze in the PSP games and the reward for the hostess quests is a smooch.
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I just started playing my first Yakuza game (4) because it's free and how much gameplay does this have? It seems like after spending a little over 2 hours with it all I did was fight 3 times, play the crane game, and the rest was spent watching a Yakuza movie.
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Overbite posted:I just started playing my first Yakuza game (4) because it's free and how much gameplay does this have? It seems like after spending a little over 2 hours with it all I did was fight 3 times, play the crane game, and the rest was spent watching a Yakuza movie. Think of it as a JRPG, where a bunch of the story dump stuff is very front-loaded.
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I played for 2h34m until getting to the point where the ability to save the game opens up  Ishin's cut-scene to gameplay ratio makes it look like MGS4 compared to this.
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Playing a Yakuza game in English is kind of weird, after playing them in Japanese for ten years or whatever. Also, the first conversation between Akiyama and Kido is still probably the most confusing conversation in the entire series, even in English. It's a hell of a weird way to start a game that is primarily about beating people up. edit: for the rape comment, I still have no idea if it was a badly executed joke about her being able to clobber her attackers, or a really loving crass fat joke. Akiyama never says anything else like it for the whole rest of always. Basically, same as Yakuza 3 with its weird orphanage stuff, 4 starts with some weird poo poo that never appears anywhere else in the series. edit: 5 kinda does too. I guess it's traditional for the series now. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 05:00 on Feb 5, 2015 |
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Renoistic posted:I'm at chapter 4 in Yakuza 4, and Akiyama sure seems to have a problem with women and/or people who AREN'T irresponsible fuckwits. For the first one he emphaphize with thr guy. He has a chance to avoid the same mistakes as he did and saw the same fire as he did after getting the money back. At that point it was an unofficial apprenticeship and he learns how to be wiser in starting a business from ground up. Second one was getting rid of competition that made her into a gold digger in hopes of paying it off. She had hoped to marry a rich man and make him pay off the debt and live it easy. When she realize she never had the spirit to stoop to gold digging she passed her test. The nerd needs serious help figuring if it was his looks or personality that need work. He learns looks only got him so far and Akiyama needed to coach a hostess in how to be less of a self centered woman who had been pushing certain guys and made the nerd feel so insecure. He had patronized his joint for five years and was loyal to her but felt he was never able to connect. For Lily. Akiyama told us straight. He wants to know if he was right in backing Arai as Kamurocho's new ruler. The date was a way to see if he can trust her. Any time Akiyama asks for you to find work at a hostess club, chances are they already need to find another person or at least find safety in someone else who actually contributes to making ends meets directly. The loan test in dead souls where the girl works as a hostess aside from Lily he learns the guy was a deadbeat mooch and seen a lot of girls in the same rut. And also highlights that he is tough but fair. Akiyama's story is about his linger self doubts and ability to trust in people. If he has to throw some outlandish trials. That's his choice Also Akiyama makes three cameos in Kurohyou. He is the rival for the bonus hostess' affections once you enter the datibg phase as well as appearing at Asia when you beat down enough drunken guests and occasionally stopping by Kyushu No 1 for noodles gyrobot fucked around with this message at 08:24 on Feb 15, 2015 |
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Overbite posted:I guess they front load it Yeah, it mellows out once the game opens up and you're free to do whatever. There is a lot of text and cutscenes in Yakuza games, but not quite on the level of a Final Fantasy or something.
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Overbite posted:I just started playing my first Yakuza game (4) because it's free and how much gameplay does this have? It seems like after spending a little over 2 hours with it all I did was fight 3 times, play the crane game, and the rest was spent watching a Yakuza movie. You say this like it's a bad thing  . Free yakuza movie, crane minigame and some fights. What else can be manlier as a start of a game!?As the others said, it's not really bad afterwards, not nearly like MSG.
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This one was one of those weird disconnects with reality because the way she's behaving, as a hostess, is literally her job, it's what a hostess is supposed to do to milk as much money as possible for the club.
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Neo Rasa posted:This one was one of those weird disconnects with reality because the way she's behaving, as a hostess, is literally her job, it's what a hostess is supposed to do to milk as much money as possible for the club. Certain guys like people who could connect with them. Miki became so detached between her clients that when the nobody nerd left for seemingly greener pastures it hurt her confidence. It fits Akiyama's ideals perfectly of goving what people want. Not a silver bullet jackpot his clients thinks about. Also the next RGG protag needs to drop the infamous "triggerman but not the killer." device.
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