maxnmona posted:In my defense, I was a teenager and I regret it now, but I do have a strong understanding for overbearing fans, even if they are still overbearing. I'm laughing imagining it was a character from Dollhouse, now.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 20:09 |
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TheJoker138 posted:I'm laughing imagining it was a character from Dollhouse, now. Now I'm actually cheered up (it's been a rather bad day) at the thought of some random guy who's just PISSED to this day that the guy didn't get some character development. Also, Maxnmona, I've followed WtNV since the beginning, when the thread was first posted in GBS, and it's amazing how far you guys have come with this. I was one of the early anti-weather crowd (and for anyone new to the concept, what changed my view on it entirely was someone suggesting that they ARE actual weather reports done via interpretive song, which is awesome) and seriously, WtNV is one of my favorite shows these days, every bit as much as anything on television or cinema. You guys have brought a lot of enjoyment to a lot of people, be very very proud because you've created something really good. Also, the control room in my recording studio is decorated in WtNV posters. Sometimes my late-night recording sessions get really, REALLY weird and I blame this on you guys.
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# ? Aug 5, 2014 21:08 |
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I love that night vale has a huge fan base and can't stand a lot of the people who make it up. The "really rude on Twitter" comment is hilarious given the piles of rudeness directed at the writers. It really is best summed up by Joseph's tweet about reactions not being the responsibility of the writers. I think the fact that it's a podcast makes fans feel more entitled than if night vale was a television series, or comic books, or novels. Podcasts are still on their way to being recognized as a legitimate art form. I believe night vale is pushing the medium forward in a really wonderful way. But I'm sure a lot of people don't recognize the level of talent and work that goes into making something like this and lump it with what makes up a lot of works in that medium: hobbyists with an internet soapbox. There's a lot of access the cast and writers have allowed their fans, which is laudable, but it's kind of been abused by entitled jerks.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 00:56 |
Look Under The Rock posted:I love that night vale has a huge fan base and can't stand a lot of the people who make it up. The "really rude on Twitter" comment is hilarious given the piles of rudeness directed at the writers. It really is best summed up by Joseph's tweet about reactions not being the responsibility of the writers. If you think that TV creators, comic creators, novelists, musicians etc. don't have fanbases full of entitled pricks I'm not sure what internet you've been using, but I'd like to go there.
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TheJoker138 posted:If you think that TV creators, comic creators, novelists, musicians etc. don't have fanbases full of entitled pricks I'm not sure what internet you've been using, but I'd like to go there. Not that he's exactly a voice of sense and calm reason himself, but track down Xenogenesis by Harlan Ellison sometime, if you can. It's an essay he wrote in 1990 or thereabouts about how horrible certain elements* of SF fandom had been over the years to him and to many different authors of his acquaintance. It culminates with an account of someone attacking Alan Dean Foster with a glass full of carefully-collected warm vomit at a convention. Bear in mind that he wrote this when the internet was still very much in its infancy, to the extent that it existed at all, and that these were anecdotes he'd collected from authors' experiences over the course of their careers. Where there are things to be fans of, there are fans. And where there are fans, there are terrible fans. This has almost certainly always been the case. Ellison was very clear, in his introduction to the version of the essay that ran in Asimov's, which is the one I read when I was but a young'in, that he wasn't speaking of, or to, the vast, vast majority of fans. He observed that 95% or so of the people who read the essay would become mortified and feel guilty about their own behavior, and that those people almost certainly had no reason to feel bad. It's the other 5% who were totally oblivious to their horrible behavior that were the problem, and they almost certainly wouldn't get clued in by anything he wrote. Likewise, I'm sure that 95% of the fans of Welcome To Night Vale, even the young and awkward and overenthusiastic and frankly a little strange ones, are lovely people who want nothing more than to express their enthusiasm to the world. The internet does unfortunately function as a magnifying glass hooked up to a megaphone for that other, horrifying 5%.
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# ? Aug 6, 2014 03:35 |
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Look Under The Rock posted:Podcasts are still on their way to being recognized as a legitimate art form. I believe night vale is pushing the medium forward in a really wonderful way. Does anyone else remember 'Seeing Ear Theater' produced by Sci-Fi that had it's own channel on Sirius?
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# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:12 |
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I don't really see how a podcasts are a separate "art form" from radio shows at all really, the form of the content itself is basically identical, the only major difference is the means of broadcast/distribution which does not really need to effect the content.
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# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:20 |
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Earwicker posted:I don't really see how a podcasts are a separate "art form" from radio shows at all really, the form of the content itself is basically identical, the only major difference is the means of broadcast/distribution which does not really need to effect the content. Even though they're both audio, they actually are pretty different. The on-demand nature and variable length allows you to do stuff like create long form arcs that must be listened to in order, or release multiple episodes at once that are meant to be listened one after another. It's like the difference between magazine and internet writing. Both words, but internet writing just lets you do different stuff.
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# ? Aug 8, 2014 23:46 |
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Every time I have to explain podcasts to someone who don't listen to them, I usually say It's like radio but all the shows are about stuff you actually care about.
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# ? Aug 9, 2014 00:58 |
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iostream.h posted:I look at it a little differently than you, I don't consider WtNV as having done anything new or revolutionary (there are several other quite good serial podcasts, tho none have the same consistency in writing and pacing) but rather it's helped more than any other podcast to help revitalize the audio dramatization (which, as an old person) has always been one of my favorite forms of entertainment. I'm a youngish person (<30) and I love discovering those old radio shows being revived as podcasts. "Candy Matson," "The Shadow," and Vincent Price's "The Saint" loving rule. I feel WTNV's the bastard child of those serial adventures they used to print in magazines and those old detective radio shows minus the uncomfortable period-typical racism. The podcast is pretty hard to explain to new people and I usually quote the thread's title or Cecil's first public service announcement about alligators when trying to describe it. I also mention the almighty GLOW CLOUD and Rod Sterling's "The Twilight Zone." I've gotten three other people to start listening to it and dragged them all to a live show so I guess I'm doing okay?
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# ? Aug 9, 2014 03:15 |
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dragon_pamcake posted:The podcast is pretty hard to explain to new people When I was at the live show in Minneapolis, I heard a couple of ushers talking before the show. The conversation was broadly, "So, is this a TV show or something?" "Not exactly..."
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# ? Aug 9, 2014 03:19 |
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Kor posted:That was in regards to the first crossover show back in March. According to the TAH twitter, the recording was lost, which is why it was never released. Did the recent version of the crossover use the same script? Or was it completely different?
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# ? Aug 9, 2014 11:13 |
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I miss Seeing Ear Theatre.
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# ? Aug 9, 2014 17:29 |
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I think I've discovered one of Night Vale's sister towns. (Other than Nulogorsk, or course). Seems like a nice place to live.
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# ? Aug 10, 2014 10:42 |
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Yvonmukluk posted:I think I've discovered one of Night Vale's sister towns. (Other than Nulogorsk, or course). I saw this from knowyourmeme.com and spent a good part of a work day looking at the posters and listening to the audio they posted. I am looking forward to the book and what ever else the Scarfolk Council produces. Yeah they could really be Night Vale's sister city: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrHBZ69AKDg
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# ? Aug 10, 2014 15:21 |
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Oh, and where will the recording of the NVA/TAH crossover be uploaded? If it's uploaded as a normal podcast, which podcast will it be in? Both, with patches of static forcing listeners to listen to both and maybe stitch them together, as per my suggestion? Or someone else's suggestion, where one podcast has it and the other just tells the listener where to look for it and then has the same length of time of a fly buzzing around a hot mic?
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I apologize for the tumblr link but this outtake from Episode 51 needs to be shared. http://octoberspirit.tumblr.com/post/94571605311/oh-my-god-im-sorry-xd Thank god I was home alone. I laughed loudly enough to scare the dogs. I think I like the sassy version of Carlos better. EDIT: Definitely NSFW. tom bob-ombadil fucked around with this message at 03:47 on Aug 15, 2014 |
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BooDoug187 posted:I saw this from knowyourmeme.com and spent a good part of a work day looking at the posters and listening to the audio they posted. I am looking forward to the book and what ever else the Scarfolk Council produces. I was looking forward to the book until I found out I'd have to order it from the UK and then it was tempered a bit.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 15:33 |
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Regarding today's new episode, Pamela Winchell continues to be the best. I was hoping she wouldn't fade away gracefully from the day-to-day of Nightvale and I was glad to have those hopes answered. Also, a little more on the Man in the Tan Jacket. I wonder what the connection is between those two? This isn't the first time he's convinced her to do something she seemed adamant not to. On a side note, the way Cecil talked so gleefully about the illegality of presenting Earl Harlan's cooking tips on air was hilarious. Never change, Cecil.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 16:27 |
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Man, Maureen can't catch a break, can she?
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 16:28 |
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Evil Mastermind posted:Man, Maureen can't catch a break, can she? I hope she just lands safely, walks all the way back home, and shows up a few episodes from now even surlier.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 17:04 |
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It's weird just hearing Cecil's voice after the deluge of guest voices in the anniversary. Stop being such a douche, Carlos! I was also hoping Maureen was saying "Daniel" instead of "Pamela". That would have been a hell of a twist.
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# ? Aug 15, 2014 22:47 |
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Just submitted one of my band's songs for the weather....fingers crossed!
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# ? Aug 16, 2014 17:15 |
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Little Reporter's Book of Big-Boy Note Taking
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# ? Aug 17, 2014 03:56 |
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Was picking up a pizza a few months ago, listening to Night Vale on my headphones, and when I took them off to talk to the cashier I heard that they were listening to the show on the store speakers. Not the same episode, but it was still something.
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# ? Aug 18, 2014 18:11 |
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In my horror lit class we'll be listening to a few episodes on Wednesday. Good to know that my teacher is as big of a nerd as I am. We'll also be reading John Dies at the End which is completely unrelated but still "thing I associate with the internet in my classroom" weird (the author is a writer on the Cracked website, which I still like despite how everyone here hates it). Edit: We didn't have time; presumably we'll listen to it another day. Action Yak fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Aug 21, 2014 |
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Thank you for the new title text inspiration, Night Vale Radio twitter!
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# ? Aug 22, 2014 03:36 |
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Action Yak Police posted:In my horror lit class we'll be listening to a few episodes on Wednesday. Good to know that my teacher is as big of a nerd as I am. Don't worry, John Dies is pretty loving great. If I'm not mistaken, I thought there was a goon consensus on this. Also, there's a movie that's less great but understandably so. Pretty much suffers from book-to-film syndrome exacerbated by being cheaply made. That said it does well with what it has but only really work well as a companion to the novel.
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SomeJazzyRat posted:Don't worry, John Dies is pretty loving great. If I'm not mistaken, I thought there was a goon consensus on this. Also, there's a movie that's less great but understandably so. Pretty much suffers from book-to-film syndrome exacerbated by being cheaply made. That said it does well with what it has but only really work well as a companion to the novel. But it does have Paul Giamatti Giamattiing things up!
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# ? Aug 22, 2014 16:35 |
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Action Yak Police posted:(the author is a writer on the Cracked website, which I still like despite how everyone here hates it). I believe he's actually a head editor, and I think John writes for cracked as well...
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# ? Aug 27, 2014 14:22 |
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Joseph and Jeffrey have been saying some interesting things about tonight's episode on Twitter, commenting on the amazing cast and how "it's the most unusual episode they've ever done." Boy howdy, that's saying something. Can't wait!
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# ? Aug 31, 2014 22:55 |
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Anything short of Scherzo-level weirdness is underwhelming to me but I'm always excited for new Night Vale anyway. HEY MAXNMONA CALL UP ROB SHEARMAN SOMETIME!
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# ? Aug 31, 2014 23:04 |
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Ho. Lee. poo poo. Way to mix things up and keep it fresh! That was totally unexpected and awesome. I love Michelle Nguyen!
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 06:31 |
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No Tamika Flynn? My disappointment is manifesting as a slightly damaged first edition of Tolstoys War and Peace.
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 13:04 |
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So that was pretty excellent. Obviously the Steve Carlsburg monologue is going to get a lot of attention, and deservedly so, but I thought the Faceless Old Woman bit was amazing. Also really liked the Michelle Nguyen bit, to the point where I don't want to say much because it will sound like I'm damning it with faint praise and it deserves better than that. I love that Steve literally sees the world as a giant conspiracy wall.
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 20:12 |
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docbeard posted:I love that Steve literally sees the world as a giant conspiracy wall. Oh man I didn't even pick up on that. Brilliant.
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# ? Sep 1, 2014 21:12 |
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That's a way better reason for Cecil to hate Steve than that "Steve is a bad father" nonsense.
Silentman0 fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Sep 2, 2014 |
# ? Sep 2, 2014 16:03 |
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This one was great. I wanna hear more from the folks at Dark Owl Records, Chad's probably a one-off joke but it had such an impact on the Faceless Old Woman that maybe it'll build to something, and Steve... oh, Steve. Steve's the best.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 16:15 |
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I think Chad was summoning a smiling god.
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 17:23 |
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Silentman0 posted:That's a way better reason for Cecil to hate Steve than that "Steve is a bad father" nonsense. But that's still what's happening, it's just that Steve being the only person who's actually aware of what's going on and how weird it is and trying to explain that counts as being a bad parent in Night Vale. The best part is, there's hints of this really early on, way back in Season 1, when Steve writes in about how the government couldn't be behind something and Cecil just loses his loving mind about it
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# ? Sep 2, 2014 18:09 |