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Subjunctive posted:Can I do 4x32@5800 yet? That’s going to be a resounding maybe. https://reddit.com/r/Amd/s/j9ipmGoUcq
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Sep 4, 2023 20:11
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What does AGESA 1.0.0.7c do over the b variant? --edit: JFC, there's so much dots in the version number, why do they keep changing the trailing letter instead of bumping the actual version number? Considering the changes are typically larger. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Sep 4, 2023 |
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Sep 4, 2023 20:14
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hobbesmaster posted:That’s going to be a resounding maybe. https://reddit.com/r/Amd/s/j9ipmGoUcq That’s a lot of fiddling with settings I don’t understand, hmm. I wonder if it will get better before Zen 5.
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Sep 4, 2023 20:34
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hobbesmaster posted:There’s probably one person out there doing this and their reasoning would have to be “AMD is so bad at this. Now, Intel, there’s a company that actually knows how to gently caress over other hardware vendors” I laughed a lot harder than I probably should have at this.
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Sep 4, 2023 20:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raf_Qo60Gi4 reminder: an AMD sponsored title v-cache doesn't get the usual gains
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Sep 5, 2023 03:59
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raf_Qo60Gi4 this game is so hosed that it seems premature to draw conclusions. wait for the first 5 patches and 2 gameready driver cycles and see what happens. in fallout 4, creation engine liked memory bandwidth, and cache size, and having SSD available (NVMe probably mandatory now). maybe v-cache is just more than Creation can utilize but that's also a somewhat surprising/counterintuitive finding in a game as badly programmed as that, with the history of that. maybe it's preferring the larger L1/L2 cache of alder and raptor over previous gens, and also the generally higher bandwidth? does 5800X3D/7800X3D do good in ARMA3/Fallout 4? Those are sort of the bellwether memory bandwidth titles I'm thinking of and I'm curious whether X3D helps in that situation. Def does in counterstrike etc. the "GPU busy" metric is also amazing and it's cool to see it be rolled out. it'd also be so supremely hilarious to go back and see who was getting tons of driver overhead in X thing. Witcher 3, Crysis 3, etc. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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Sep 5, 2023 04:34
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raf_Qo60Gi4 I mean, the 7800X3D is still 15% faster than the 7700X in the most CPU-limited benchmark, which is pretty standard. Starfield just loves ADL/RPL in particular, it seems. At least the 7800X3D is performing better in this test than PCGH's test, likely thanks to the faster memory being used (Zen 4 scales more with memory than ADL/RPL). Turn on those XMP/EXPO profiles, folks.
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Sep 5, 2023 04:55
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:reminder: an AMD sponsored title
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Sep 5, 2023 08:57
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I don't think we ever saw anyone do comparisons between the 5800X and 5800X3D for Skyrim vanilla vs Skyrim heavily modded, but that's the one area where people talk about the L3 cache being a big improvement.
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Sep 5, 2023 11:44
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If anyone owns a qualifying AMD product but doesn't have a starfield key, I have 2 spare amdrewards codes. They do require product verification and tying to a steam account. list of qualifying product or product combinations. Both keys come from a 7800X3D but I think it awards you based on your hardware, so if you have a qualifying individual product on that page or a qualifying combination you should be good. I'll pm them to the first two people who quote this. edit: Sent them all out. Khorne fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Sep 5, 2023 |
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Sep 5, 2023 15:42
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Khorne posted:If anyone owns a qualifying AMD product but doesn't have a starfield key, I have 2 spare amdrewards codes. They do require product verification and tying to a steam account. Yes please!
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Sep 5, 2023 16:02
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Khorne posted:If anyone owns a qualifying AMD product but doesn't have a starfield key, I have 2 spare amdrewards codes. They do require product verification and tying to a steam account. I could use one if you don't mind. Bought my 7800X3D a few weeks before they started the promotion and I wasn't able to talk CS into giving one to me.
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Sep 5, 2023 16:11
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Cygni posted:Rumor is that its the exact same IO die as Zen4 without any silicon revision, so might not be much different for memory stuff. Still a ways off from knowing for sure, and I think your sentiment is smart regardless. They can still have higher supported fabric speeds with the same die. Intel doesn't just support faster DDR5 but is also getting more raw bandwidth for any given DDR5 speed in general so I hope there's improvement.
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Sep 7, 2023 03:04
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Dammit! My 7800X4D didn't qualify because it was Amazon Warehouse, if only I had checked the thread sooner
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Sep 9, 2023 00:01
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Icept posted:The worst part about waiting for Zen 5 is you have to wait another half year for the X3D parts I'm waiting on desktop APUs, if that makes you feel any better.
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Sep 9, 2023 06:14
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ijyt posted:Dammit! My 7800X4D didn't qualify because it was Amazon Warehouse, if only I had checked the thread sooner i got some bad news for you, hombre, you might have gotten a chinese knockoff
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Sep 9, 2023 06:59
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is that good posted:I'm waiting on desktop APUs, if that makes you feel any better. Good man. You building some sick nasty ITX box?
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Sep 9, 2023 09:42
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ijyt posted:Dammit! My 7800X4D didn't qualify because it was Amazon Warehouse, if only I had checked the thread sooner Doesn't sound like you have it too bad, you're a whole dimension ahead of us!
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Sep 9, 2023 09:54
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LOL didn't even notice that typo
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Sep 9, 2023 11:54
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I'm sorry Mario, but your Cache is in another time stream.
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Sep 9, 2023 15:55
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Sure it’s expensive, but that time loop logic branch predictor is a huge performance gain!
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Sep 9, 2023 16:10
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hobbesmaster posted:Sure it’s expensive, but that time loop logic branch predictor is a huge performance gain! 97.3% branch prediction accuracy guarantee! 2.7% chance the temporal cache locks itself into a grandfather paradox and dissipates via chronotron evaporation.
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Sep 10, 2023 05:46
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Finally, a CPU that can run C°ntinuum: roleplaying in The Yet
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Icept posted:Good man. You building some sick nasty ITX box? that's the plan! one of these days
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gradenko_2000 posted:Finally, a CPU that can run C°ntinuum: roleplaying in The Yet i saw this and appreciated it
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is that good posted:I'm waiting on desktop APUs, if that makes you feel any better. Call me crazy, but I suspect now that they're putting igpus just good enough for office pcs on the io dies of chiplet ryzens maybe there won't be any more socketed monolithic APUs.
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VorpalFish posted:Call me crazy, but I suspect now that they're putting igpus just good enough for office pcs on the io dies of chiplet ryzens maybe there won't be any more socketed monolithic APUs. Given that every console and laptop part is still monolithic and will continue to be, laptops need big iGPUs more than desktops, and the current fastest iGPUs are all laptop only, AMD could pretty easily bring them to desktop if they wanted but they may not choose to. If they don't sell them socketed they'll still be available in mini-PCs.
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Twerk from Home posted:Given that every console and laptop part is still monolithic and will continue to be, laptops need big iGPUs more than desktops, and the current fastest iGPUs are all laptop only, AMD could pretty easily bring them to desktop if they wanted but they may not choose to. That's what I mean; I'm guessing the chips they make will all be reserved for mobile/soldered, since they don't need them to hit the office pc market anymore.
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AMD Phoenix2 CPU die shot featuring Zen4/Zen4c architectures has emerged https://twitter.com/BusAlexey/status/1700534630481310003 ....Does it feel like they kind of just.... obsoleted Mendocino with their own product? Like, 7520U is 4c/8t, Radeon 610M, and 15W. This.... can pretty much slot into that same niche, but better all around. SwissArmyDruid fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Sep 11, 2023 |
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Sep 11, 2023 03:44
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N5 is significantly more expensive than N6, so in terms of "are they going to ship millions of these" not really until N5 137mm^2 gets cheap enough compared to N6 100mm^2.
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Mendocino is basically a chromebook chip, while this looks like it's a class above that in terms of power consumption and performance (and cost). Maybe we'll see it in low-end gaming handhelds and ultrabooks.
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Sep 11, 2023 05:12
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Yeah, 137mm² of N5 vs 100 mm² of N6 means probably at least twice the cost. Of course, given what all the other stuff you put in a laptop cost, it's probably sensible for most users to go for the better chip for dramatically better performance, especially in 1T.
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Is the whole 7800X3D chips and supporting motherboards frying themselves a solved problem? I recently ordered a 7800X3D and Aorus B650 Elite AX to replace my 3700X and have just learned about the issue from the Gamers Nexus videos covering the topic. I haven't built the new system yet, so the parts are still unused and in the box, and this news has me considering just returning them for a 13700KF build instead. Has this issue been resolved? Are these chips safe to recommend/use again?
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Gunder posted:Is the whole 7800X3D chips and supporting motherboards frying themselves a solved problem? I recently ordered a 7800X3D and Aorus B650 Elite AX to replace my 3700X and have just learned about the issue from the Gamers Nexus videos covering the topic. I haven't built the new system yet, so the parts are still unused and in the box, and this news has me considering just returning them for a 13700KF build instead. It's also only an issue if you've got EXPO enabled before that version - and there's a fair chance that anything on the market now will come with a newer BIOS anyway.
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:I've not heard of any new issues for anyone who's updated to AGESA 1.0.0.6 (late April), and since then both 1.0.0.7a and b have come out, and 1.0.0.9 is supposedly being worked on. Yeah, I plan to update the BIOS before I install Windows, so hopefully I'll be fine. Thanks for the info!
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:I've not heard of any new issues for anyone who's updated to AGESA 1.0.0.6 (late April), and since then both 1.0.0.7a and b have come out, and 1.0.0.9 is supposedly being worked on. Yeah as far as I know it's well fixed at this point, just make sure you have a beefy cooling solution because it's still a toasty processor.
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Shugojin posted:Yeah as far as I know it's well fixed at this point, just make sure you have a beefy cooling solution because it's still a toasty processor. I'm gonna use my BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 from my current system, so hopefully, that will be adequate.
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Gunder posted:I'm gonna use my BeQuiet Dark Rock 4 from my current system, so hopefully, that will be adequate.
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Shugojin posted:Yeah as far as I know it's well fixed at this point, just make sure you have a beefy cooling solution because it's still a toasty processor. i’ve got mine under a low profile cooler and it’s perfectly fine. doesn’t hit 5.0 or anything and it slows down when i use it for handbrake but in games it’s fine. people ask why not get 100% of the performance you pay for and i say the small build (perversion) is what i paid for, not benchmarks
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