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Honj Steak posted:ah sorry, it's a bit confusing because the German words for the baltic countries are totally different. RIP Duchy of Kurland.
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Amazing. This explain many things :P
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fishmech posted:This. My city had a furry convention but it folded. We will be spared.
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I'm not going to post it because it hardly seems fair, but I'm glad that Wikipedia has a map showing showing which countries use Fahrenheit, and which use Celsius.
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computer parts posted:Either LV or SA might get a blue chunk in the future.  The convention business is huge in Las Vegas, and there are two main convention centers. The LVCC is owned by a sort of weird, quasi-governmental entity, and is funded through a tax on hotel rooms. Its major competitor is the Sands Expo, which is privately owned and funded by Sheldon Adelson. The rumor in Vegas is that neither Adelson nor the Raiders are actually interested in a move. The Raiders are using a potential move as leverage to get more money from Oakland/SA/wherever, and Adelson wants the excitement from a potential move to fund the new stadium with tax money diverted from the LVCC. This also might be part of the reason that Adelson bought the Las Vegas Review-Journal. https://www.ralstonreports.com/blog/adelson-begins-play-his-new-toy
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Muscle Tracer posted:I'm not going to post it because it hardly seems fair, but I'm glad that Wikipedia has a map showing showing which countries use Fahrenheit, and which use Celsius. Fahrenheit isn't well suited to scientific endeavors, but I think it's a more useful scale for describing the temperatures humans generally actually live in. Celcius is better for everyday use than Kelvin though. Farenheit is right in the sweet spot. Obviously I'm American.
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Jaramin posted:Fahrenheit isn't well suited to scientific endeavors, but I think it's a more useful scale for describing the temperatures humans generally actually live in. Celcius is better for everyday use than Kelvin though. Farenheit is right in the sweet spot. Depends on where you live really. Like I've lived all my life in places where it rarely gets much below 0 f or much above 100 f, but does hit 0 and 100 nearly every year. But in a lot of Europe it rarely goes below 0c and also rarely gets above like 30c.
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fishmech posted:Depends on where you live really. Like I've lived all my life in places where it rarely gets much below 0 f or much above 100 f, but does hit 0 and 100 nearly every year. But in a lot of Europe it rarely goes below 0c and also rarely gets above like 30c. I don't think anyone lives where it hits 100c.
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Feb 1, 2016 06:39
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Peanut President posted:I don't think anyone lives where it hits 100c.
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fishmech posted:Depends on where you live really. Like I've lived all my life in places where it rarely gets much below 0 f or much above 100 f, but does hit 0 and 100 nearly every year. But in a lot of Europe it rarely goes below 0c and also rarely gets above like 30c. Err... It gets above 30c every loving summer? And below 0 every loving winter? I've seen both 40 and -20. (e2: Now quite -20, but close) e: ^^^ Yeah, their saunas don't mess around.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Some Finns do. Finns aren't humans. 
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Jaramin posted:Fahrenheit isn't well suited to scientific endeavors, but I think it's a more useful scale for describing the temperatures humans generally actually live in. Celcius is better for everyday use than Kelvin though. Farenheit is right in the sweet spot. But no one else uses Fahrenheit so it automatically blows rear end once you interact with non-Americans. Also, due to the fact it scales differently, it's super-hard to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit. Like, no matter how dumb imperial measurements are, I can still sort of convert them in my head when I have to explain something to someone from the Anglo-Saxon world, but for temperatures this is close to impossible.
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I wish we used Celsius in the US. My understanding is it's: 0 to 10 = loving cold 10 to 20 = cold 20 to 30 = ok 30 to 40 = hot Lycus fucked around with this message at 10:16 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Feb 1, 2016 10:14
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In Finland, while we're not human or anything up here, Celsius feels right because the temperature swings from equal amounts of minus to plus over the year. In the winter it's -25 to 0, in the summer it's 0 to +25.  In Fahrenheit scale we'd end up down in double digit negatives regardless.
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Fahrenheit was designed in Europe to be the obvious logical measurement for weather. 0F is about the coldest it ever got in Daniel Fahrenheit's hometown, Danzig, and 100F is about the hottest. Same goes for a lot of other places in Europe. 0 to 100 scales make more sense than -18 to 38. That was one of the foundation arguments for decimal currency and the metric system. So Celsius makes more sense for chemistry and cooking, but Fahrenheit makes more sense for Western European meteorology. e: Or any European meteorology outside of the deep frozen wastes I guess. Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 10:32 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Feb 1, 2016 10:24
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[System I've used my whole life] makes way more sense than [system other people use] because [rationalization that could easily apply to either]. Celsius was designed to fit a 0-100 scale and is a metric unit. 
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Feb 1, 2016 10:56
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Scales going from 0 to 100 make the most sense because it's related to the human body. We have zero tails and a hundred fingers.
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Going from 0 to 100 for "normal" temperatures is useless though. There isn't eve a noticeable difference between 24 and 25 degrees Celsius, much less between 65 and 66 Fahrenheit. One could argue that with Celsius it's at least obvious when temperatures are freezing, but memorizing 0 degrees Celsius is only marginally easier than remembering the equivalent Fahrenheit temperature.
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Feb 1, 2016 11:28
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Perhaps the best way would be a new scale that's approximately Fahrenheit/10 that's just called "how hot is it?" 10 = really loving hot, 0 = really loving cold, <5 = wear a jacket, <3 = watch out for ice. That's how they do it for pollen and air pollution and UV index on the weather.
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Celsius is great if you're doing something in the kitchen, since having an easy reference to freezing temperature and boiling temperature is actually pretty drat handy.
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Seriouspost there used to be a whole loving bunch of temperature scales and if you're reading a book from say the early 1900s it's not unusual to encounter like 58R which can either mean the Radisson scale or the Rembacher scale, and all of those have died out now in favour of Celsius and the same will happen to Fahrenheit too at some point, tough luck brothers.
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Feb 1, 2016 11:52
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Same but Kelvin. 255 - 311 is a logical scale for outside temperatures.
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Guavanaut posted:Fahrenheit was designed in Europe to be the obvious logical measurement for weather. 0F is about the coldest it ever got in Daniel Fahrenheit's hometown, Danzig, and 100F is about the hottest. Same goes for a lot of other places in Europe.
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Lycus posted:I wish we used Celsius in the US. More like -20 and beyond = loving cold -19 to 0 = ok for winter 0 to 20 = ok for other seasons 20+ = too hot 30+ = died and went to hell
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Feb 1, 2016 14:49
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doverhog posted:More like european.txt
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Guavanaut posted:0 to 100 scales make more sense than -18 to 38. The only reason you would think there's something meaningful in temperatures -18 C or 38 C would be if you're thinking with Fahrenheit scale as your reference, though.
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my dad posted:Celsius is great if you're doing something in the kitchen, since having an easy reference to freezing temperature and boiling temperature is actually pretty drat handy. Those of us who don't live at sea level are going to have to remember a number that isn't 100 anyway.
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Lycus posted:I wish we used Celsius in the US. Where do you live such that 10 degrees -- 50 F -- is "loving cold" and anything below 20 is cold? 20 is a warm spring day, man!
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Juffo-Wup posted:Those of us who don't live at sea level are going to have to remember a number that isn't 100 anyway. 100+-5 within +-1400 meters. That should cover 99% of the human inhabited world.
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DrSunshine posted:Where do you live such that 10 degrees -- 50 F -- is "loving cold" and anything below 20 is cold? 20 is a warm spring day, man! It's very cool of Americans to be like "look, Fahrenheit just makes more sense in an everyday context" when their own country covers about every loving climate possible. Also I agree with that poster, anything below 20c is unpleasant. Europe north of Madrid is barely habitable
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Lycus posted:I wish we used Celsius in the US. Ras Het posted:Also I agree with that poster, anything below 20c is unpleasant. Europe north of Madrid is barely habitable. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Feb 1, 2016 |
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Feb 1, 2016 15:25
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Stefu posted:The only reason you would think there's something meaningful in temperatures -18 C or 38 C would be if you're thinking with Fahrenheit scale as your reference, though.
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kalstrams posted:You'd be surprised what most of Europe north of Paris does thing about Europe south of Paris. I'm Finnish. Guavanaut posted:'About the coldest it ever gets in winter' and 'about the hottest it ever gets in summer' for a fair bit of Europe is pretty meaningful if you're looking for a meteorological scale of temperature measurement. About, as defined by you, with clear reference to the Fahrenheit scale.
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America will never switch to the metric system because then you euros wouldn't be able to hold it over us and have to invent SuperMetric and then Wow you guys still use metric? How the gently caress do you function without knowing it's 5 Grognaks outside???? edit:Same with soccer.
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adhuin posted:100+-5 within +-1400 meters. Everybody in the Denver metro area is crying right now because they think you hate them.
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I think we're generally fine with miles because the conversion is simple. Inches and feet separately are alright too, but feet & inches is an abomination. Pounds are fine. Fahrenheit and acres are ridiculous.
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Ras Het posted:I think we're generally fine with miles because the conversion is simple. Inches and feet separately are alright too, but feet & inches is an abomination. Pounds are fine. Fahrenheit and acres are ridiculous. Personally I prefer Chains and Furlongs.
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kalstrams posted:Welcome to Eastern Europe! People up here act like 20 and below is like living on Hoth and 21 and above is like living on the sun. There is no in-between. One thing I do miss about living back home is the good hot 32+/90+ days for proper laying around on the beach or tubing on a river. I think more than two days of that would pretty much depopulate the Armorican peninsula.
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Atlanta is the furry capital of the south; this explains so much.
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Ras Het posted:About, as defined by you, with clear reference to the Fahrenheit scale. Celsius makes more sense when dealing with water for cooking or chemistry, even though the exact points will vary depending on altitude. Kelvin makes more sense when dealing with thermodynamics. e: Southern Africa is pretty high up too, there's areas inland where the air is noticeably thinner, or at least qualitatively different. 
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