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Luigi Thirty posted:It was 2:30 in the morning so the Navy equivalent of Harry Kim was in charge. The captain was sleeping. Whoever was actually on watch at the time will be the one who gets owned. Yeah that's not how the navy works, the captain is directly responsible for everything that happens on their ship. If the OOD was poo poo it's cause the CO was running a lovely command. The navy might be the only place in the US where the executives are actually held accountable for what the people below them do. Dave Grool fucked around with this message at 08:47 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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JuniperCake posted:Yeah, this. It's an ecosystem as vibrant as any other. Though the wall is going to mess up more things than just the environment. If I remember correctly Tohono O'odham land runs across the border, so a wall would cut right through their community. Not to mention all the border towns that likely would get messed up by it as well. What kind of rear end in a top hat didn't watch planet earth and learn this?
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oohhboy posted:The desert is an environment too so should the Trump wall get built it's going to gently caress up a desert of all things. Heard quite a few anecdotes that most of those border militias run-ins are with field biologists.
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lol is he trying to insulate Trump University somehow? Or did the settlement wipe out the existing debts for former students? Not entirely read up on the whole ordeal.
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DeVos wants to turn over student loans servicing to a single company overseen by the treasury as if the purpose of the loans was to turn a profit. So this would have happened with or without Trump U.
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Covok posted:People are upset and worried for their own lives because of people like him. Saying awful things online is venting more than anything else. I'm not getting that sense. I'm getting the sense that there are more than a few people on this forum who are unironically blessing James Hodgkinson, and that's how we get more of him. Wonder if he was a member of this forum? Even if you approach this from a completely amoral, logical sense, you get zero results by shooting Republicans because they are roughly a third of the country. If you want to change this, you change minds, not enact one-man Stalinesque purges.
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Dave Grool posted:Yeah that's not how the navy works, the captain is directly responsible for everything that happens on their ship. If the OOD was poo poo it's cause the CO was running a lovely command. The navy might be the only place in the US where the executives are actually held accountable for what the people below them do. Yeah, but it is probably the difference between "being drummed out of the Navy in disgrace" as will happen and "being court-martialed and jailed for manslaughter" as would happen had he been in active command at the time. At least, that's my impression given what I know of the Navy.
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Has this been mentioned in this thread yet? This would be a second written account on Trump trying to interfere with the campaign investigation. quote:A recent National Security Agency memo documents a phone call in which U.S. President Donald Trump pressures agency chief Admiral Mike Rogers to state publicly that there is no evidence of collusion between his campaign and Russia, say reports. http://www.newsweek.com/trump-tried-convince-nsa-chief-mike-rogers-russia-investigation-fake-report-626073
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BarbarianElephant posted:Not according to the loving edgelords on this forum. I don't think they have any sense that he's a real human being, they talk about him like he's a bad guy character on a TV show. the world would've been a better place if him and people like him had never been born.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the world would've been a better place if him and people like him had never been born. Nothing counteracts pointing out edgelord Internet sociopathy like an edgy counterfactual!
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i didn't know edginess was now a synonym for correctness. learn something new everyday.
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Smug tone policing is a real loving delight too, we're all super grateful for it. Congrats on having something important to be self righteous about on a dead comedy forum.
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At least Captain Planet villains had endearing character quirks. The current Republicans are all cartoonishly evil while also being loathsomely smug about killing off their fellow citizens through legislation and pushing violent rhetoric. Them literally crying because their white supremacist buddy got hurt due to their work proliferating guns to people that shouldn't have them while vying for the votes of nuts that think Sandy Hook parents are the bad guys doesn't humanize them it makes them even bigger trash.
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BarbarianElephant posted:I'm not getting that sense. I'm getting the sense that there are more than a few people on this forum who are unironically blessing James Hodgkinson, and that's how we get more of him. Wonder if he was a member of this forum? And how in the gently caress do you that for people who are insulating themselves into a whole separate world in which even the most basic objective facts have become "too politicized?" I can't even reach 75% of my family because everyone is "entitled to their opinion" even when it contradicts reality.
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Why should I not be happy some amoral idiot who is perverting democracy got shot by someone with a long criminal record after same idiot spent years working to loosen gun restrictions and has an A+ rating from the NRA? That is exactly the situation the phrase poetic justice exists for.
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DrNutt posted:And how in the gently caress do you that for people who are insulating themselves into a whole separate world in which even the most basic objective facts have become "too politicized?" I can't even reach 75% of my family because everyone is "entitled to their opinion" even when it contradicts reality. Unfortunately I have to agree with this. You can't change minds that are fundamentally lacking not in facts, but in the capacity for reasoning and critical thinking. There is a sizable portion of this group (and probably on the left as well) that has utterly failed to develop these skills, so there aren't many tools you can use to correct this after a lifetime of reinforcement.
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I'm actually a little happy that there has been more push back against the idea that Republicans are now a persecuted minority than I expected there would be. The reality of the situation is that Republicans, from their politicians to their media have been pushing violent actions against their political opponents, journalists, protesters, and minorities for decades. I don't think many people outside already committed Republican voters are falling for these crocodile tears and I'm glad Pelosi at lead laid it all out how trash they are to be using this as an attempt to hide their bloody hands on this because the media has the audacity to publicly report on their actions.
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I don't think we, the country, those trapped in their conservative bubbles, or even this dead lame comedy forum benefits from talk that makes it seem like assassination attempts against political figures are ever justified. We'll win at the ballot box or we'll lose. Open bloodshed is actually a really hosed up bad thing that won't likely help the average American. Scalise is a piece of poo poo whom I don't feel really bad for, but you have to think about the larger costs. Our system of government hasn't reached the point that war is the only way to improve our admittedly awful situation.
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What we need are two big rockets, a liberal one and a conservative one. All the liberals go in the liberal one, all the conservatives go in the conservative one, and then we colonize two seperate planets, cut all communication and, at last, know peace.
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DrNutt posted:And how in the gently caress do you that for people who are insulating themselves into a whole separate world in which even the most basic objective facts have become "too politicized?" I can't even reach 75% of my family because everyone is "entitled to their opinion" even when it contradicts reality. Volunteer to help these people with their home improvement projects. Screw them up in every possible way - incorrect measurements, pound in nails in random locations, saw the stair banister in half, etc. Explain that all your actions were correct in your opinion, and opinions can't be wrong. If they protest, accuse them of trying to violate your first amendment rights.
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Starmaker posted:What we need are two big rockets, a liberal one and a conservative one. All the liberals go in the liberal one, all the conservatives go in the conservative one, and then we colonize two seperate planets, cut all communication and, at last, know peace. what about the purists v centrists
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skylined! posted:what about the purists v centrists "Okay so what we need is 4 rockets-" "What about Tea Partiers?" ... "Okay, so what we need is about 7 billion rockets..."
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Triskelli posted:"Okay so what we need is 4 rockets-" ~ Regards, rest of mankind.
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Pinch Me Im Meming posted:Please don't lump us up with you insane folks. Yeah, you own this mess.
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Starmaker posted:What we need are two big rockets, a liberal one and a conservative one. All the liberals go in the liberal one, all the conservatives go in the conservative one, and then we colonize two seperate planets, cut all communication and, at last, know peace. And then the conservative planet inevitably destroys itself so the liberal planet can colonise that one too.
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Triskelli posted:"Okay so what we need is 4 rockets-" America needs the Musubi reason ending.
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SwissCM posted:And then the conservative planet inevitably invades the liberal planet so they can colonise that one too.
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SwissCM posted:And then the conservative planet inevitably destroys itself so the liberal planet can colonise that one too. Planet is crumbling around them and thousands of years later one last radio transmission reaches the leftist planet. It reads simply: "triggered yet libs?"
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SwissCM posted:And then the conservative planet inevitably invades the liberal planet so they can colonise that one too. Well, maybe if the rockets to to opposite ends of the galaxy... ...man, that would make for a weird as hell retelling of Foundation.
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Kilroy posted:Yeah they'll make it so e.g. the DSA is classified as a terrorist organization or something like it, and if you're a member then you don't get to buy guns. They'll run a background check and bar you from buying a hunting rifle because you have a subscription to Jacobin. I was with you until you said "background checks", in which this whole plan just falls apart. We've had at least two mass shootings, including this most recent one, that should have been prevented by background check enforcement but didn't. And the current holders of power don't want to change that, especially if it's looking like they'll get run out on a rail in the next couple of elections. If something like that came to pass and the Democrats took over in 2018 and 2020, then some people are going to be very nervous because they've gave them the tools to start mass gun confiscation.
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AceOfFlames posted:...man, that would make for a weird as hell retelling of Foundation. Better than the weird-as-hell retelling of The Dispossessed we're already working on. At least there they already have the cool spaceships.
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Raylen posted:lol is he trying to insulate Trump University somehow? Or did the settlement wipe out the existing debts for former students? Not entirely read up on the whole ordeal. Trump University wasn't actually a university.
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This thread has gone from not caring whether republicans live or die to Allied Powers Speed Run in record time.
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Well with gun companies hurting during a R administration, we should all be considering buying up gun stocks for the 2018 election.
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DrNutt posted:I can't even reach 75% of my family because everyone is "entitled to their opinion" even when it contradicts reality. this is mostly the media's fault and just our culture in general. it's probably true of politics everywhere but since i'm american i can only speak of us. there's this stupid idea that politics is just down to opinion or that any stance is valid just because someone holds it. that isn't really true, there are objectively correct stances for nearly every political issue. but it doesn't matter if you hold them because the right wing media has broken millions of brains and the mainstream media always has to have this moronic "balance". i can't think of a single gop belief that isn't totally counter to reality. Groovelord Neato fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jun 18, 2017 |
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Dave Grool posted:Yeah that's not how the navy works, the captain is directly responsible for everything that happens on their ship. If the OOD was poo poo it's cause the CO was running a lovely command. The navy might be the only place in the US where the executives are actually held accountable for what the people below them do. Mukaikubo posted:Yeah, but it is probably the difference between "being drummed out of the Navy in disgrace" as will happen and "being court-martialed and jailed for manslaughter" as would happen had he been in active command at the time. At least, that's my impression given what I know of the Navy. The CO, XO, OOD, and possibly the TAO/CICWO will get fired. The OOD's Department Head could get a letter of reprimand for failing to train their DIVO properly (assuming the OOD was a DIVO and not a DH for some reason). There is very little chance anyone will have a criminal case brought up on them because criminal negligence is something the Navy doesn't like to prosecute when it comes to navigation accidents. (Of course, they don't typically end with 7+ people dead in addition to the millions in damages, so take that as you will.) The only way criminal charges might be filed is If the CO was on the bridge and sanctioned the maneuver or if it was logged that the OOD called the CO, gave him the plan, and the CO signed off on it. Of course, depending on the CO, 0-dark-30 calls to the CO's cabin about navigation plans aren't the most scrutinized, especially if the CO can see on his radar display that there isn't much out there since you're likely jostling them straight out of REM sleep. Chilichimp posted:This thread has gone from not caring whether republicans live or die to Allied Powers Speed Run in record time. Its the weekend and they're bored. Give them a break.
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Chilichimp posted:Trump University wasn't actually a university. Everyone seems to assume it was something like ITT or ECPI, but it was really just another one of those 'get rich in real estate' seminar scams. I think every idiot that has a fix and flip show has attached their name to one at this point. Basically, they draw you in with a free seminar, then offer more and more expensive seminars and 'mentoring' from 'experts'. The problem is the 'experts' tend to be people picked up off the street and the 'mentoring' can cost upwards of $30-50,000 dollars. If you see 'I Buy Houses' signs scrawled in lovely handwriting littering the side of the road where you live, chances are that person went to one of these things. I don't know the details of Trump University, but I imagine it was something similar.
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