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Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.



Elephant Ambush posted:

"I'm not bitter."

*is visibly bitter*

https://mobile.twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760

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Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
https://twitter.com/lpky/status/1376617161133854721?s=21

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1377042983665684488?s=19

Bobby Digital fucked around with this message at 02:03 on Mar 31, 2021

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

It’s a self parodying machine

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
Aw Robby deleted the first tweet. Here it is

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

https://www.reddit.com/r/Anarcho_Capitalism/comments/3ucp8y/i_was_beat_up_by_left_anarchists_in_greece/

Never gets old.

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.

Good god I'm just savoring this paragraph.

AnCap Shitlordlet posted:

Nov 3 I flew to Europe for a Eurotrip type tour. Not a guide or packaged deal, just going around by myself. I paid for half of the trip with the wages I earned over the last two years, my dad paid for the other half. I am 19, I guess that is normal starting college and all. (Before that I worked for my dad's company part time, so I guess you could say he paid for all of it, lol).

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

VideoTapir posted:

Good god I'm just savoring this paragraph.

You can just feel the HENRY oozing off of it

VideoTapir
Oct 18, 2005

He'll tire eventually.
From that thread:

quote:

quick_checkAnarcho Capitalist 2 points 5 years ago

A few things to think about :

There are as many free markets as there are interactions between others.
Aggression is a feeling you have because you could not withold something from other(s).
NAP is a stand you take to not aggress others.

but pictures are no NAP violation so I don't know why

To follow NAP requires empathy. From their standpoint then on taking a picture:

"Hey, I am withholding from you these walls (claiming individual ownership) and the picture taking of said walls."

Individuals were unable to maintain their claim of withholding those walls from you and thus they felt aggressed.

In your free market, you feel taking pictures are not NAP violations so you felt aggressed when you were unable to withhold from others (maintain your claim) on the definition of NAP.


Jesus loving christ people talk like this.

No marxist should ever get any poo poo for jargon while people like this walk the earth

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The concept of subjective experience, described as "the free market in your head that is different from the free market in someone else's head"

Butter Activities
May 4, 2018

VideoTapir posted:

From that thread:



Jesus loving christ people talk like this.

No marxist should ever get any poo poo for jargon while people like this walk the earth

IMO it's probably fake, it checks just way too many boxes (like the overuse of NAP) but it's the best satire since the libertarian police department.

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

SMEGMA_MAIL posted:

IMO it's probably fake, it checks just way too many boxes (like the overuse of NAP) but it's the best satire since the libertarian police department.

when I visited Greece in 2019 i chatted to a journalist who knew the Exarcheia anarchist scene and who had asked people about this at the time, but nobody had ever heard of such an incident. We figured it was fiction, of the sort that is poetically true.

i did get to watch a local anarchist friend's face as they read greece.txt tho

and now, from the buttcoin thread:

Chalks posted:

the uk isn't a libertarian paradise, i have been lied to

Alan Smithee posted:

then why are there nonces everywhere

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

Somfin posted:

\E: There's a bit in there about Alex being one of the first animals to ever ask questions, which puts him well above actual libertarians, who know questions only as rhetorical devices through which they can make statements.

I dunno, libertarians are very good at just asking questions...

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

divabot posted:

when I visited Greece in 2019 i chatted to a journalist who knew the Exarcheia anarchist scene and who had asked people about this at the time, but nobody had ever heard of such an incident. We figured it was fiction, of the sort that is poetically true.

Being a regular denizen...it is almost definitely fiction. As I wrote a couple of years ago, it's possible that this guy went to Nosotros (judging from the number of floors and all) and managed to piss off everyone sitting down for a beer or two, but people here tend to generally not drag people down the stairs like that. The worst thing that would have happened would be to send him away to cool off and eat a souvlaki or two next door at Kavouras. XD

divabot
Jun 17, 2015

A polite little mouse!

Dante80 posted:

Being a regular denizen...it is almost definitely fiction. As I wrote a couple of years ago, it's possible that this guy went to Nosotros (judging from the number of floors and all) and managed to piss off everyone sitting down for a beer or two, but people here tend to generally not drag people down the stairs like that. The worst thing that would have happened would be to send him away to cool off and eat a souvlaki or two next door at Kavouras. XD

I loving loved Exarcheia btw, and it made me want to learn Greek and run away to live with the anarchists.

(my wife said no, annoyingly)

Dante80
Mar 23, 2015

She might have a point. A little after you visited this started happening.

Another of the squats attacked is right outside my house btw (not in Exarcheia, but Koukaki, my neighborhood). I managed to gently caress off just in the nick of time, and we retook the building a couple of weeks later. Others were not so lucky. Especially the refugees we were helping there.

Things are a lot worse now unfortunately, with Covid and all added in the mix. T_T

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009
https://twitter.com/catoinstitute/status/1381242399343718402?s=21

TLM3101
Sep 8, 2010




First of all...

:stonklol: Jesus loving Christ.

Second... This is one of those cases of the assholes being 'technically correct'. Which is to say, yes, agricultural jobs were - and in large parts of the world still are - absolute loving drudgery that makes just about any alternative seem good and like a step up. In a lot of cases, a sweatshop honestly still is a step up.

However, and here's the trick: Unlike the implication that the opinion-piece makes, the fact that a sweatshop is a step up from, and a better alternative to, conditions similar to mideval peasantry, does not by any stretch of the imagination mean that labor-conditions in sweatshops are by any means okay.

gently caress this disingenuous bullshit right in the ear.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

If there’s a fire on a farm you can usually run away and escape it, at least

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

What if someone in the farmhouse tries to steal some of your property before it burns, without paying for it? Better barricade the doors from the outside to be safe

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

crossposting from the internet culture warriors who self-own thread:



quote:

Lim exists in a singularly odd corner of the business world. He says he’s not an extremist, just an entrepreneur with a maximalist view of free speech. “There needs to be a me, right?” he says, while eating pho at a Vietnamese restaurant near his headquarters. “Once you get to the point where you look at whether content is safe or unsafe, as soon as you do that, you’ve opened a can of worms.” At best, his apolitical framing comes across as naive; at worst, as preposterous gaslighting. In interviews with Bloomberg Businessweek early in 2020, Lim said he didn’t really know what QAnon was and had no opinion about Donald Trump.

quote:

Lim attributes his entrepreneurial streak to a need to “put food on the table” during an underprivileged childhood, even though classmates remember him driving other kids around in his dad’s Lamborghini and posting videos of the rides to YouTube."

quote:

When asked why he wanted to do business with one of the U.S.’s most notorious White supremacists, Lim shrugs: “They were censored, so that’s what was interesting about them.”

He then launches into a rambling justification, questioning whether the Daily Stormer is actually serious about the racism that defines it. “They could be joking,” he says. Either way, he adds, “I just don’t care. To me, it’s not illegal speech.”

:fuckoff:

more at the link:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-04-14/qanon-daily-stormer-far-right-have-been-kept-online-by-nick-lim-s-vanwatech

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

He says that restrictions on online speech have already brought the U.S. to the verge of communist tyranny, that “we are one foot away from 1984.” After a moment, though, he offers a sizable qualifier: “I never actually read the book, so I don’t know all the themes of the book. But I have heard the concepts, and I’ve seen some things, and I thought, ‘Whoa! That’s sketchy as f---.’ ”
:lmao:
Everything is constantly one minute away from both 1984 and Brave New World for these guys (who have read neither). Everything, that is, other than supporting Nazi poo poo.

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

oh yeah somehow forgot to include that whopper :lol:

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost

Guavanaut posted:

:lmao:
Everything is constantly one minute away from both 1984 and Brave New World for these guys (who have read neither). Everything, that is, other than supporting Nazi poo poo.

The Trashfuture podcast has a running joke about how the only book any pundit has ever read is 1984 and they haven't actually read that either, and it continues to be amazing

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

1984 can be read in one sitting. It’s really funny that some people are treating it like Ulysses lol

Karia
Mar 27, 2013

Self-portrait, Snake on a Plane
Oil painting, c. 1482-1484
Leonardo DaVinci (1452-1591)

Even the rare few who have read it know absolutely nothing about Orwell. He was, uh, not exactly writing 1984 as a defense of capitalism.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Karia posted:

Even the rare few who have read it know absolutely nothing about Orwell. He was, uh, not exactly writing 1984 as a defense of capitalism.

A joke I like to tell is that if Orwell were alive today his only criticism of the modern left is that we cancel fascists with a hashtag and not a bullet

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
As somebody who likes Orwell and just finished reading "Such, Such Were The Joys" about an hour ago, Orwell would probably have some pretty sharp things to say about all the feminists, homosexuals, nudists, perverts, sandal-wearers, and bearded fruit juice drinkers infiltrating the modern Left.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Halloween Jack posted:

As somebody who likes Orwell and just finished reading "Such, Such Were The Joys" about an hour ago, Orwell would probably have some pretty sharp things to say about all the feminists, homosexuals, nudists, perverts, sandal-wearers, and bearded fruit juice drinkers infiltrating the modern Left.

He would ask them why they're throwing big bags of soup at the fascists and not grenades

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
Orwell thought every decent person had a duty to personally kill at least one fascist

He learned how to kill fascists with grenades and proceeded to do just that

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
He fought in the Spanish civil war right? But also wasn't Spanish, so he just heard there was some fascism going on and went to kill fascists.

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

HootTheOwl posted:

He fought in the Spanish civil war right? But also wasn't Spanish, so he just heard there was some fascism going on and went to kill fascists.

To be fair, so did a lot of bored left-wing activists from around the world

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012
And after that most of his left-wing advocacy was making GBS threads on every other socialist group even as they kissed his rear end.

Orwell's net score is still positive, but he could be a real poo poo when it came to women, irish folk, and actual praxis.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Sephyr posted:

And after that most of his left-wing advocacy was making GBS threads on every other socialist group even as they kissed his rear end.

Orwell's net score is still positive, but he could be a real poo poo when it came to women, irish folk, and actual praxis.

Hard to beat throwing grenades at fascists for praxis

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Sephyr posted:

And after that most of his left-wing advocacy was making GBS threads on every other socialist group even as they kissed his rear end.

Orwell's net score is still positive, but he could be a real poo poo when it came to women, irish folk, and actual praxis.

ALOT of that seems to be traced back to experiencing firsthand the Soviet-aligned Spanish Communists persecuting and then violently eliminating the other socialist factions on the Republican side and actively working to stop attempts at carrying out a revolution in the Republican areas.

Dude became pretty disillusioned.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
The Right also kisses Orwell's rear end, though I don't think they started doing it while he was alive. 1984 is stridently anti-Soviet, and every right-winger trying to cast themselves as a bold intellectual underdog invokes Orwell. Like, Richard Spencer said he left academia to pursue a "life of thoughtcrime."

Asimov absolutely skewered 1984 in a review, pointing out that it's as much about left factionalist grievances as anything else.

Bobby Digital
Sep 4, 2009


:thunk:

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Randarkman posted:

ALOT of that seems to be traced back to experiencing firsthand the Soviet-aligned Spanish Communists persecuting and then violently eliminating the other socialist factions on the Republican side and actively working to stop attempts at carrying out a revolution in the Republican areas.

Dude became pretty disillusioned.

Oh, granted. And hopefully he'd have recovered a bit of nuance and stopped using his clout to stomp on british union defenders and dem-socialists, most of which were quite close to the Republican ideas he defended, for the benefit of crusty Tories, if he had lived longer.

But still.

Grace Baiting
Jul 20, 2012

Audi famam illius;
Cucurrit quaeque
Tetigit destruens.




:psyduck::sbahj:

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here


We do need immigrants if we're going to keep Social Security going. But then they go full stopped clock and immediately start being wrong again.

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QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008


"People will only do lovely work if they get paid less, not more" is... uh... well it's something

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