CanPol Megathread: Big Changus

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yippee cahier: Mar 28, 2005

I'd love to see some community radio programs or podcasts thrown in the mix. Some reprieve from The Debaters would be nice.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:06

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 03:12

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

Vintersorg posted:

I'd love to punch anyone who votes to remove the CBC in the back of the head.

* as long as they consent and promise not to press charges a decade later. What's with liberals and physical violence? Is it a repression thing? Validation?

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:07

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

LIBERALS!!

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:19

DariusLikewise: Oct 4, 2008; You wore that on Halloween?

The correct term is LIE-Berals actually, because we are all 10 years old.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:33

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

JawKnee posted:

Everything's just getting too divisive and expensive and difficult, better just stick with FPTP

Lol someone I know called Trudeau the "most divisive prime minister we've ever had"

I'm pretty sure "divisive" is neoliberal talk for "poo poo I don't like"

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:38

Pinterest Mom: Jun 9, 2009

DariusLikewise posted:

The correct term is LIE-Berals actually, because we are all 10 years old.

Fiberals.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 20:40

Wistful of Dollars: Aug 25, 2009

Nuclear is the best we have until someone figures out Fusion.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:06

The Butcher: Apr 20, 2005; Well, at least we tried.; Nap Ghost

Pinterest Mom posted:

When was the last time you saw a panel of guests on national TV debating the issues of the day in New Brunswick, Saskatchewan or the North?

I for one have always felt robbed that the portion of my taxes that goes to the CBC has never allowed me to watch a nationally televised lively panel discussion on Fredericton City Hall motion 2016-445B-1: "Should garbage pickup be increased to two days a week?"

...also I just had to google what the capital of New Brunswick is. Forgive me, 10th grade social studies teacher!

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:08

JawKnee: Mar 24, 2007; You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

Somewheretown, Eastiguessville

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:10

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

EvilJoven posted:

The only people I know of who think public insurance is a bad thing are people who have never lived in a place without it.

It's kinda like how people who've never lived anywhere but Winnipeg think that all of the traffic issues in this city would be solved if we had freeways.

Wheee

https://twitter.com/ABC7/status/801262762261291008

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:14

tankfish: May 31, 2013

rawrr posted:

Have comment sections always been this lovely? I'm not sure if it's just because I'm more conscious of it or if it's actually a cultural shift, but it didn't seem/feel that people were this mean-spirited and underinformed, say, 10ish years ago.

Yes the cbc comments have always been this bad. I honestly do know why they bother having it at this point.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:19

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Nuclear is the best we have until someone figures out Fusion.

It's not totally perfect though so let's build things that are worse in every way instead until the perfect solution is developed. Maybe some way of harnessing the attraction of middle class whites to Elon musk's musk to spin a generator to power self driving cars to the hyperloop to Mars.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:19

Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

Baronjutter posted:

Elon musk's musk

My favourite cologne.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:21

Square Peg: Nov 11, 2008

Wistful of Dollars posted:

Nuclear is the best we have until someone figures out Fusion.

Well, we could have fusion power tomorrow, but you're probably not gonna like it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_PACER

quote:

Project PACER, carried out at Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) in the mid-1970s, explored the possibility of a fusion power system that would involve exploding small hydrogen bombs (fusion bombs) inside an underground cavity. As an energy source, the system is the only fusion power system that could be demonstrated to work using existing technology.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:24

The Butcher: Apr 20, 2005; Well, at least we tried.; Nap Ghost

tankfish posted:

Yes the cbc comments have always been this bad. I honestly do know why they bother having it at this point.

It was actually relatively good when it was anonymous comments and you sorted it ranked best to worst. Lots of bullshit getting called out.

Then they forced people to actually register to comment or vote, which had the predictable effect of reducing it to a much smaller echo chamber of hate, fear and racism.

To combat this, they completely misjudged our national character and thought, "Ah! If we make people use their real names, they will be too ashamed to say horrible things."

But this did not work. So they decided to just disallow comments on anything to do with race, sex or religion at all.

Which then just made the garbage people save up their horrible opinions to be unleashed on completely unrelated topics.

The whole thing is a complete embarrassment and should just be removed entirely. You don't see the BBC stooping to this level.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:37

Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

Square Peg posted:

Well, we could have fusion power tomorrow, but you're probably not gonna like it...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_PACER

"Wikipedia posted:

Dropping about two bombs a day [...] allowing the continual extraction of about 2 GW of electrical power.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:46

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Yeah it's great, the total number of racist horrible posts hasn't gone down, they just scream about indian welfare scum on the comments for an article on bike lanes or the prize winning goose at the local country fair. All they did was move it around.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:52

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

You dumb assholes should Google ITER

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:54

peter banana: Sep 2, 2008; Feminism is a socialist, anti-family, political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.

It's totally possible that written commentary from the average person is not required for news story.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 21:55

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

It drives "reader engagement", which our metrics say is important for a nearly irrelevant news organization in the midst of decline.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:05

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

As opposed to the comment sections on porn sites, which drive "reader engorgement."

(ps punctuation goes inside the quotes :eng101:

)

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:11

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

As opposed to the comment sections on porn sites, which drive "reader engorgement."

(ps punctuation goes inside the quotes )

http://pornhubcommentsonstockphotos.tumblr.com/

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:13

Lobok: Jul 13, 2006; Say Watt?

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

(ps punctuation goes inside the quotes )

For speaking that makes sense. Dumb otherwise.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:14

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

(ps punctuation goes inside the quotes )

Yankee-rear end SOB

Lobok posted:

For speaking that makes sense. Dumb otherwise.

It's the preferred American style, but not universal

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:15

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Vintersorg posted:

Yeah man, nothing racist here.

I see your post and raise you

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:19

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

infernal machines posted:

Yankee-rear end SOB

It's the preferred American style, but not universal

Hey everyone get a load of Lieftenant Smartypants over here.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:19

Count Roland: Oct 6, 2013

OSI bean dip posted:

Tell me oh wise one where and how we're going to reduce our need for energy. Tell me as someone who lives in a western nation that you'll tell the developing world to curb their use of energy so we can be the only people who got to enjoy the luxuries that came with the advent of bountiful energy.

Energy efficiency is one thing, but suggesting we look for ways to reduce our overall need is idiotic short of us killing all of ourselves off.

From a couple pages ago I know.

But much of the West has seen a decrease or plateauing of per capita energy use since the 70s. I knew this was true of Germany, but this neat graph shows its true of a bunch of countries, even including Canada which is kinda shocking.

Maybe more importantly, I found that google shows graphs like this from basic searches:

[url]https://www.google.ca/publicdata/explore?ds=d5bncppjof8f9_&ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=eg_use_pcap_kg_oe&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=region&idim=country:DEU:FRA :can:

USA:GBR&ifdim=region&hl=en&dl=en&ind=false&icfg&iconSize=0.5[/url]

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:34

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

infernal machines posted:

It drives "reader engagement", which our metrics say is important for a nearly irrelevant news organization in the midst of decline.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQnd5ilKx2Y

# ? Nov 24, 2016 22:53

The Dark One: Aug 19, 2005; I'm your friend and I'm not going to just stand by and let you do this!

This thread has been too positive of late. Let's talk about Toronto's enduring love affair with carding!

Desmond Cole, Toronto Star posted:

The police board says officers can continue their carding, as long as they promise not to target people based on the colour of their skin. The board is also allowing chief Mark Saunders, or anyone he designates, to continue using the database that contains info from millions of documented stops in recent years, as long as he promises only to access the database for good reasons. Police face no real consequence for disproportionately denying black residents our dignity, privacy, and safety. Police will continue to use data that was taken by force, including information taken from children.

After the board�s latest approval of carding, Saunders said police need access to the carding database to deal with crimes and emergencies. He told reporters, �If you have a family member that has Alzheimer�s, and there�s information that can help show us patterns and trends, and where that person is going, life-saving conditions, a person that�s suicidal, information that we have so that we can maximize opportunities for saving people. When you look at all sorts of things. Abductions. There�s so many reasons where there�s information, where if we have access to that information, it could potentially save lives.�

If we accept Saunders� argument, black people should actually be grateful that police disproportionately documented us, because we are now more likely to be saved by the police when we are in trouble. Perhaps all the documentation of our families in the child welfare system, and of our sisters and brothers who are being kept behind bars, will save us too. Perhaps the store clerk who follows us as we shop is just making sure we�re enjoying our shopping experience.

Sandy Hudson, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Toronto, told a story at a public event recently about the incessant use of force against black Torontonians. Hudson and some of her friends were standing near a public square when they saw a black man running down the street. The man was screaming. A police officer rushed the man and tackled him to the ground. Hudson and her friends ran over to intervene. After demanding the officer release the man, Hudson and others attempted to console him. They learned that the man was running down the street in distress because he had just witnessed his mother�s death.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:22

Landsknecht: Oct 27, 2009; I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

The Dark One posted:

This thread has been too positive of late. Let's talk about Toronto's enduring love affair with carding!

Unless you're in a vehicle, can't you just say "no ID/am I being detained?"

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:29

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Landsknecht posted:

Unless you're in a vehicle, can't you just say "no ID/am I being detained?"

Say whatever you want at your own risk citizen

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:31

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

Landsknecht posted:

Unless you're in a vehicle, can't you just say "no ID/am I being detained?"

WASPs only

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:32

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

It makes sense electricity user is dropping. It's not like the need more of it to manufacture cars or anything :smugdog:

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:36

Risky Bisquick: Jan 18, 2008; PLEASE LET ME WRITE YOUR VICTIM IMPACT STATEMENT SO I CAN FURTHER DEMONSTRATE THE CALAMITY THAT IS OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM.; Buglord

quote:

Hi all,

I want to give you an update on the voluntary buyouts and the changes we are going to be making to our newsroom in the coming weeks. We�ll have an informal huddle where I can answer your questions in the newsroom at 1pm today.

As I told you in the earlier town hall, the focus of this newsroom reorganization will be geared towards being a digital-only operation. We are, of course, continuing to publish print products from this newsroom, but the amount of attention that it occupies will be isolated to a much smaller portion of this operation.

Mick Higgins will run the print hub, which will be where all the attention to print resides. This one dynamic hub will oversee the slotting and content decisions for NP, NP2, FP, FP2, Comment and FP comment and A&L daily.

Ron Wadden will run the presentation hub, which tackles all the special treatments that we want to give to stories. It will be primarily digitally focused, but it will also pay attention to specialty print items.

The new deadlines from PES � which are considerably earlier for every single section � will help enforce our new digital focus.

Erin and Jordan and Nicole and Dustin have come up with new workflows for their teams that rely on earlier starts to the day and a full integration with web. Kevin is going to take on oversight for all of comment � both FP and NP comment � rebuilding it into a digital powerhouse. In this new universe, there will not be a news desk and a digital desk�they will be one, seamlessly connected team.

Editors will be trained to post the stories they are handling; reporters will be trained to produce their own stories. All of this will begin immediately and continue through the next several weeks.

Your editors will meet with you to talk through some of the specific changes impacting your teams. We have moved quickly to come up with a plan, but the scope of this change to the way we do things is huge, and it will be a bumpy ride for all of us.

We are losing a fifth of this newsroom to voluntary buyouts. People will be redeployed to help fill the gaps and to bolster the newsroom reorganization. We have already begun talking to people about new roles, and will continue over the coming days. We want to implement these changes as quickly as possible, and we�re going to need people in place to make it happen.

These are the talented people who will be leaving our newsroom in the coming weeks:

Angela Hickman, Gary Loewen, John Shmuel, David Yasvinski, Al Zabas, Jesse Kline, Damon Van der Linde, Brian Hutchinson, Araminta Wordsworth, Genevieve Biloski, Nancy Truman, Graham Runciman, Gord Isfeld, Liza Sardi, Chloe Cushman, Kelly McParland, Jeff Wasserman, Ron Hartwell, David Berry, Gillian Grace.

We are sad to say goodbye � which we�ll do in a single farewell gathering on Dec. 2 � but wish them all the best.

For all of us who remain, this will be an exciting period of change � on a scale that we haven�t yet experienced. You are an unbelievably resilient and energetic and creative bunch and I have no doubt of our success. Your editors and I are here to support you, and walk you through the changes every step of the way. When we come out the other side of this, we will be a newsroom transformed, and galvanized by this change.

quote:

http://ipolitics.ca/2016/11/24/leitch-vows-to-scrap-bloated-cbc/

Conservative candidate Kellie Leitch is vowing to dismantle the CBC if she becomes prime minister.

�A central policy priority for Leitch�s leadership campaign is to institute a cap on government spending. Every government department will have to do its part, including the CBC,� states a release from Leitch�s campaign team.

Leitch wrote that �the playing field is not level for Canadian media,� and in order for democracy to thrive, �we need to hear from the different voices in the press.�

Leitch said that as long as the CBC continues to �distort the market by consuming advertising revenues and having its operations underwritten by the taxpayer, the market is uncompetitive.�

Yesterday, Leitch�s rival candidate Maxime Bernier said he wants to reform the CBC. Leitch disagrees.

�The CBC doesn�t need to be reformed. It needs to be dismantled. The measure of a conservative is in their efforts to, as the great British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher described it, �roll back the frontiers of the state.�

�Maxime�s plan doesn�t do that. Mine does.�

Leitch�s release says taxpayers �should not have to subsidize the CBC to keep it afloat.

�Private media outlets like the Toronto Star, the Globe and Mail and Le Journal du Montreal are struggling, and we must level the playing field. The days of a bloated, taxpayers-subsidized CBC are numbered.�

Leitch�s release says that she would retain the part of the CBC that provides �emergency services� to remote and rural parts of Canada. It doesn�t explain the phrase �emergency services.�

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:39

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

The Dark One posted:

This thread has been too positive of late. Let's talk about Toronto's enduring love affair with carding!

I'd follow Sandy Hudson all over my store, she's a thief.

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:45

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

Hahaha get fuuuuuuucked postmedia

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:46

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Chris Selley had a pretty salty series of of tweets about the timing of bonuses and buyouts in the same week. Jonathan Goldsbie took the open lane and dunked:

https://twitter.com/goldsbie/status/801563525802053632

# ? Nov 24, 2016 23:47