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Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?
It was only 500B? With all the poo poo posting I thought the iron price was much higher.

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L0cke17
Nov 29, 2013

Wibla posted:

What asshouse? I'll fix.

=TNT= in d-w, should be the one on the fortizar grid that was our old stager before the keepstar. Thanks!

kung fu jive
Jul 2, 2014

SOPHISTICATED DOG SHIT

ullerrm posted:

Yep. "Two jumps" is another region away, in this case. If the fortizars were allowed to stay up, they'd be able to put caps on them and project to a large part of Catch; now, they have to jump them through gates.

Compare and contrast with when we were settling Delve -- why do you think we rushed to get a Fortizar in 1-SMEB as fast as possible, and fought a rather large force to do so? Because having it meant we could project from 1-SMEB without having to jump in from Sakht first. (And, if you'll recall, we welped a super or two in that fight, too.)

So, yes, it was worth it on a tactical level. On a morale level, it was even more worth it; we demonstrated that we could headshot two stagers on the first day of the war, despite them bringing in the kitchen sink to defend them. Our months fattening in Delve has meant we can absorb tonight's losses without blinking, and show up tomorrow to do the same; TEST/CO2 are coming straight off the Tribute campaigns with weak wallets and tired pilots.

And when all's said and done, it was a loving awesome fight, despite the awful Tidi and the desyncs and the weird e-warp bugs. I'm glad CO2 and TEST came to it, and I'm glad we came to it. It's better than a dumb no-contest fight where PL trades a pair of Typhoons for a half-fitted undefended Keepstar.

Amen to that. One of the better TiDi-fests I've been in and a dynamic fight that moved around the grid a lot despite the TiDi.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends
At around 2:30am I figured that I was both too drunk and tired to stick around on grid so aimed my carrier out of the bubble and recalled my fighters to prep to warp to a friendly POS. I think I finally logged about 45 minutes later

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Worlds Smuggest posted:

probably a hosting type thing, my html is too rusty for the specifics.

"we forgot to put an A record in our DNS"

goattrails
Nov 27, 2009

Ride the frog, baby!
Emergency jabber downtime posting station.

Roller Coast Guard
Aug 27, 2006

With this magnificent aircraft,
and my magnificent facial hair,
the British Empire will never fall!


goattrails posted:

Emergency jabber downtime posting station.

Isn't CAOD normally used in these cases?

Multilake
Dec 11, 2016

If you're in a jam, a crayon scrunched under your nose makes a good pretend moustache.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

At around 2:30am I figured that I was both too drunk and tired to stick around on grid so aimed my carrier out of the bubble and recalled my fighters to prep to warp to a friendly POS. I think I finally logged about 45 minutes later

Holy gently caress.. I did the same in my Guardian, but after 10 Minutes I just thought 'gently caress it', warped to a safespot and logged.. I figured noone would combat probe me anyway in that tidifest!

goattrails
Nov 27, 2009

Ride the frog, baby!

Roller Coast Guard posted:

Isn't CAOD normally used in these cases?

It's not really mutually exclusive.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Multilake posted:

Holy gently caress.. I did the same in my Guardian, but after 10 Minutes I just thought 'gently caress it', warped to a safespot and logged.. I figured noone would combat probe me anyway in that tidifest!

the last TiDi fight I was in was when we undocked in Grindrs in the casino war. I was podded and back in station before I'd even realised I'd even been locked, let alone killed

Wibla
Feb 16, 2011

L0cke17 posted:

=TNT= in d-w, should be the one on the fortizar grid that was our old stager before the keepstar. Thanks!

The clone bay there is online, as far as I can see. Fueled for 32 days and module online. I'm gonna offline it on February 1 as it runs out of fuel :v:

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

So Boat managed to erase an FCON fleet today -- they tried to MWD to gate in Feroxes as the bombs came in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrFj92GMsyI

Skip to 3m05s for the pop. In moderate TiDi, it sounds like slowly stepping on bubble wrap.

Multilake
Dec 11, 2016

If you're in a jam, a crayon scrunched under your nose makes a good pretend moustache.
Those explosions look really cool! Thanks boat for bombing the right fleet this time :rolleyes:

Multilake fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Jan 3, 2017

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Multilake posted:

Those explosions look really cool! Thanks boat for bombing the right fleet this time :rolleyes:

thats because esildra didn't warp in on them @ zero while the bombing run was in progress

RhoA
Jul 20, 2014

Multilake posted:

Those explosions look really cool! Thanks boat for bombing the right fleet this time :rolleyes:

Thanks for your contribution.

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014





I may be dumb here but this Reddit propaganda doesn't make sense to me at all. In this war are goons not technically the cannon fodder since goons deployed to help the Russians? And goons lost 500bil of "fodder" to repel the attack yesterday?

barracudal
Apr 1, 2016

Keegers posted:



I may be dumb here but this Reddit propaganda doesn't make sense to me at all. In this war are goons not technically the cannon fodder since goons deployed to help the Russians? And goons lost 500bil of "fodder" to repel the attack yesterday?

Do things on reddit often make sense to you?

The Hambulance
Apr 19, 2011

:20bux:

ASK ME ABOUT MY AWESOME STARTUP IDEA


Pillbug
Reddit "propaganda" only has to get upvotes. It doesn't have to make sense.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Keegers posted:



I may be dumb here but this Reddit propaganda doesn't make sense to me at all. In this war are goons not technically the cannon fodder since goons deployed to help the Russians? And goons lost 500bil of "fodder" to repel the attack yesterday?

Most reddit propaganda is dumb. Especially when they talk about cannon fodder and us not caring about allies. We make fun of allies all the time yes, but we do take care of them and help them as much as possible.
Compare that to PL who farms their allies constantly for ~content~ and ~gudfights~

I'v said it before and I'll say it again, TEST and others are suffering from the battered wife syndrome and they don't even realize it.

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter
it extra doesnt make sense because why is bos there when that poo poo happened ages prior and was literally "hey you guys need to shape up" "gently caress YOU I WONT DO WHAT YOU TELL ME", fcon and sma and razor and exe (note how they forgot to X exe since they're doing their own thing) were all amicable splits :confused:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
They don't let reality get in the way of their narrative.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD


that's, like, 250% more than the amount killed was

ullerrm
Dec 31, 2012

Oh, the network slogan is true -- "watch FOX and be damned for all eternity!"

Dank Upboats does not have Reality as a prereq skill.

It's also that the ZKB cost is not the replacement cost for a lot of hulls at the moment, especially when it comes to caps and supers. Have you seen what dekswat is charging to build supers these days? Rigged Sotiyos have completely broken the old price points.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



ullerrm posted:

Dank Upboats does not have Reality as a prereq skill.

It's also that the ZKB cost is not the replacement cost for a lot of hulls at the moment, especially when it comes to caps and supers. Have you seen what dekswat is charging to build supers these days? Rigged Sotiyos have completely broken the old price points.

How low have they sunk now that supers have been rolling off Sotiyos for a bit now? Iirc they were around 18-20b before?

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

yeah -- the total SRP amount for any fleet loss, no matter who lost it, is generally quite a bit lower than the zkb value because of things like insurance and local price advantage

still, even if we were paying the full amount as told by zkb for the losses, it sure as hell ain't 500b

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

ullerrm posted:

Dank Upboats does not have Reality as a prereq skill.

It's also that the ZKB cost is not the replacement cost for a lot of hulls at the moment, especially when it comes to caps and supers. Have you seen what dekswat is charging to build supers these days? Rigged Sotiyos have completely broken the old price points.

Prices aren't that low compared to old prices, just compared to not having space prices. So far the primary difference is just that it is so much loving easier than it used to be.

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

also supers are a lot easier to sell when you can just shrug and contract them to somebody right off the assembly line or in a keepstar

no more boarding a titan from an XLSMA and praying like gently caress that you don't bounce your unfit titan rear end out of the pos

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

or unanchoring your SCSAA with a baby ragnarok ready to be born inside

i watched baki yuku do this once, i was cloaked on grid with his pos in cobalt edge

ccp reimbursed it :smithfrog:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!
Another thing... does 500B include the supers that might be reimbursed for having been warped to nowhere?

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Dalael posted:

Another thing... does 500B include the supers that might be reimbursed for having been warped to nowhere?

no

four supers were lost in F4R2, two aeons and two nyxen, so unless they were all officer fit (instead of just twizzlespark's,) it doesn't make up the difference

Keegers
Aug 11, 2014



Gwyneth Palpate posted:

that's, like, 250% more than the amount killed was

I haven't seen the final battle report, just the number I've seen floating around

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Keegers posted:



I may be dumb here but this Reddit propaganda doesn't make sense to me at all. In this war are goons not technically the cannon fodder since goons deployed to help the Russians? And goons lost 500bil of "fodder" to repel the attack yesterday?

Why is Bat Country on there but not PL? :confused:

Dalael posted:

Compare that to PL who farms their allies constantly for ~content~ and ~gudfights~

Name the specific alliances you think PL are allied with that we are also "farming" right now. Because I can bet you they're not blue nor have been our allies for months.

Mekchu fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jan 3, 2017

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

Dalael posted:

Another thing... does 500B include the supers that might be reimbursed for having been warped to nowhere?

zero chance this happens. supers have been lost to server fuckery far worse than a weird warp to a nonsense location, and not been reimbursed. big battles are a crapshoot.

to get a super reimbursed from a kill in combat you need to provably be the victim of exploits or account hacking or something like that. for non-combat stuff they're less strict (see baki yuku's titan or the original suas titan).

FruitNYogurtParfait
Mar 29, 2006

Sion lied. Deadtear died for our sins. #VengeanceForDeadtear
#PunGateNeverForget
#ModLivesMatter

Klyith posted:

zero chance this happens. supers have been lost to server fuckery far worse than a weird warp to a nonsense location, and not been reimbursed. big battles are a crapshoot.

my titan :haw:

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Klyith posted:

to get a super reimbursed from a kill in combat you need to provably be the victim of exploits or account hacking or something like that. for non-combat stuff they're less strict (see baki yuku's titan or the original suas titan).

More like just get the right gm. The logs never show anything, and you only have local logs which are not all that useful

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Tell me the story Mr. Deadtear.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Unfunny Poster posted:

Why is Bat Country on there but not PL? :confused:


Name the specific alliances you think PL are allied with that we are also "farming" right now. Because I can bet you they're not blue nor have been our allies for months.

Is it that time again for people to explain to you that just because they aren't set blue in game doesn't mean they aren't allies? You and Xolve always seem to forget this every few months.

Groggy nard
Aug 6, 2013

How does into botes?

CainFortea posted:

Is it that time again for people to explain to you that just because they aren't set blue in game doesn't mean they aren't allies? You and Xolve always seem to forget this every few months.

I keep hearing it called "Blue Not-Blue".

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

Is it that time again for people to explain to you that just because they aren't set blue in game doesn't mean they aren't allies? You and Xolve always seem to forget this every few months.

Please tell me which specific alliance(s) you think PL are allied with. I'm dying to know.

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Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Unfunny Poster posted:

Name the specific alliances you think PL are allied with that we are also "farming" right now. Because I can bet you they're not blue nor have been our allies for months.

Unfunny Poster posted:

Please tell me which specific alliance(s) you think PL are allied with. I'm dying to know.

Kindly stop.

There is nothing remotely confusing about it. Even D posters understand how it works. PL allies for x purpose or y length of time. After that, the ally may get shot.

Don't poo poo on people saying PL shoots their allies or try to troll them. They're not calling PL backstabbers; PL stabs its former allies right in the face - once the alliance agreement has expired. Or, occasionally, in full compliance with the agreement.

Despite this alliances join up with PL, without plans for after the alliance agreement expires, over, and over, and over. It's understood. It's hilarious. And it's the "allies" who are being mocked.

So no need to try to train wreck the thread.

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