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YF-23 posted:It's a loving school, not a prison. School is basically prison
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Mar 30, 2015 14:15
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I think, with Anthony around, any place would be a prison.
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Mar 30, 2015 14:18
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It's less a school and more a research and containment facility that is enclosing a forest full of mysterious creatures that are potentially dangerous to mankind, that has in its student base people who can involuntarily alter reality around them, and super geniuses that can build nukes from thumb tacks. On the school grounds there's a murderghost who will not just kill you, but also murder *your soul*. Periodically monstrous tree creatures escape and attempt to infect the surrounding area, or possess people fatally. There's a freaking knight with a magic sword. Every student is fitted with a tracking device. It's not a school, it's the front line. You think someone who put a thumbprint on the moon can just walk around as if nothing happened? Fangz fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 14:20
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Fangz posted:Look ahead. The rest of her friends will be graduating and leaving Gunnerkrigg Court. Her best friend that's a machine god [And whose parents work at the school], her friend that is the diplomat to the people next door to the school, her other friend that is that guy's protector and girlfriend, or her friend that is a magical creature bound to her? Which one of those do you see leaving exactly?
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Mar 30, 2015 14:48
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I forget now, was the "they monitor us through the food" thing real or was it Jack making poo poo up in conspiracy mode? I vaguely recall Jones confirming it maybe.
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Mar 30, 2015 14:50
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Blackheart posted:I forget now, was the "they monitor us through the food" thing real or was it Jack making poo poo up in conspiracy mode? I vaguely recall Jones confirming it maybe. Jones confirmed it. http://www.gunnerkrigg.com/?p=724
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Mar 30, 2015 14:57
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Fangz posted:This chapter isn't over yet. Dude I don't know what bullshit school you attended but where I come from this sorta cheating, to this extent, is gonna get you kicked out. And even with peer tuition, mistakes aren't going to be perfectly identical all the time. Moreover, she started cheating way before most of the magical stuff happened. She did it out of her own free will. Repeating a year isn't particularly unusual here, either. If your grade is below a minimum, you repeat, simple as that. I think quite a few people here are applying the US "no one left behind" sensibility. Repeating a year is not the end of the world, guys. And supplemental classes are not going to cut it with the sheer level of cheating she did. Worst case-scenario she knows nothing in literally every subject but two.
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Mar 30, 2015 14:58
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The first step would be to *determine what Antimony actually knows*, and what the extent of the cheating was, not treat the retention as a fait accompli. When did the cheating start, anyway? Given that she was put into custody of a freaking murderer God within weeks? months? of starting school, that sounds like a stressful situation. (Also, I taught, moron. And yes, in the UK.) Fangz fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 15:10
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Kyte posted:Dude I don't know what bullshit school you attended but where I come from this sorta cheating, to this extent, is gonna get you kicked out. At age 14? If you were in your proper final years, sure, of course, but at age 14? With no warning? MikeJF fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 15:13
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I have to wonder whether the Court's decision on Annie's status as their medium wasn't influenced by her cheating, and skipping out on detention as much as her just being too cozy with the forest/Coyote for their liking. Their intentions are still opaque as concrete
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Mar 30, 2015 15:17
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How much maths homework do you think Zimmy does? What about Gamma, who still can't speak English? What about all the vandalizing of school property they did? Surely they should all be expelled!
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Mar 30, 2015 15:26
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While I agree that I don't see this sticking as it wouldn't make for good story to have Annie buckling down on her school work or whatever, the story barely focuses on the actual school work as is, so it could work out in that sense. My bet is having her retake a bunch of tests, maybe have a study montage, etc. Although it would amuse me if both happened, "You retook all your finals and...you failed." Then again I might be a bit of a sadist (I loved the end of The Mist movie  ).Kikas posted:If this is why "the apple doesn't fall far away from the tree" I will laugh my rear end off. I would like this as well. The title page needs to fit somehow I guess.
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Mar 30, 2015 15:36
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Brightman posted:Although it would amuse me if both happened, "You retook all your finals and...you failed." So basically Billy Madison with Gods.
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Mar 30, 2015 15:49
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Annie kind of has a problem with authority. She knew Coyote was The Coyote and spanked him anyway. Renardine has been telling her for years that she shouldn't be cheating and has been doing it anyway. Annie knew the prohibition against unauthorized access to the forest and went anyway. She then proceeded to skip the detentions she got for doing so. The only authority figure she seems to respect other than her father is Ysengrin, who is a similarly cold, no-nonsense person. Jones gets an honorable mention, but since exercising authority isn't really her thing, and she actually isn't all that cold, it's kind of a moot point anyway. Basically, she wouldn't have been good at following the court's orders as their medium, and the court knew that. And to them that is definitely a liability. e: grammar Dr Subterfuge fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 15:59
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Nettle Soup posted:I wonder if Tony cheated off Donny when he was at school... Probably not, but a lot of similarities have been shown between the generations.
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Mar 30, 2015 16:06
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Annie kind of has a problem with authority. She knew Coyote was The Coyote and spanked him anyway. Renardine has been telling her for years that she shouldn't be cheating and has been doing it anyway. Annie knew the prohibition against unauthorized access to the forest and went anyway. She then proceeded to skip the detentions she got for doing so. The only authority figure she seems to respect other than her father is Ysengrin, who is a similarly cold, no-nonsense person. Jones gets an honorable mention, but since exercising authority isn't really her thing, and she actually isn't all the cold, it's kind of a moot point anyway. I get the impression Antimony respects people who are straight with her, which is Coyote, Reynardine, Ysengrin, Jones, Anja, and Donald. Not so much Eglamore, Llewellyn, or the Court in general.
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Yeah echoing that being held back a year is school is very uncommon here in the UK, and with Annie's classmates being her social group and room mates as well, this is both a massive humiliation for Annie and potentially cuts her off from her friends significantly. So much so that I don't really believe it'll happen, someone has to intervene on Annie's behalf here.
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Rand Brittain posted:I get the impression Antimony respects people who are straight with her, which is Coyote, Reynardine, Ysengrin, Jones, Anja, and Donald. Not so much Eglamore, Llewellyn, or the Court in general. Coyote might always speak the truth but he is anything but direct. Reynardine is like a father but at the end of the day when he overtly tries to act that way (like how we would want a father to act) it just reminds her that he isn't her father, and she pushes him away. She stole that picture from the Donlans, which I think is indicative of a certain lack of respect. She obviously cares about all of those people, but that, I think, is different from respect.
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Mar 30, 2015 16:46
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It's probably worth noting that the biggest reason Renard is 'straight' with Antimony is because he's literally incapable of lying to her.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:13
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I reckon the 'isolating her from her support network' is a bit much. Remember, Anthony has never come across as some master manipulator who isolates his targets and torments them for kicks. He's emotionally clueless and terrified of anything outside his bubble of cold logic. Which is why, like people have said, his actions even seem reasonable-ish as a teacher, but he deals with his fatherly responsibilities by pretending they don't exist.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:13
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If Kat doesn't drop the bomb that Annie's father is the one who put her in the infirmary by performing space bone surgery
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Mar 30, 2015 18:24
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Bonus points if Zimmy clocks him in the jaw again.
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Inglonias posted:If Kat doesn't drop the bomb that Annie's father is the one who put her in the infirmary by performing space bone surgery Does she remember that, though?
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Mar 30, 2015 18:31
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She remembers the dream, I imagine, otherwise she wouldn't have asked Annie if she thought her dad was involved. To literally interpret what appears to have been a dream doesn't strike me as something Kat would do, though, even if she does hates him.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:35
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If Kat insults or accuses Anthony here it will only result in her earning Annie's ire.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:38
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Dr Subterfuge posted:She remembers the dream, I imagine, otherwise she wouldn't have asked Annie if she thought her dad was involved. To literally interpret what appears to have been a dream doesn't strike me as something Kat would do, though, even if she does hates him. Evidently Kat's memories of that night faded like a dream might.
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Mar 30, 2015 18:39
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Parts Kit posted:Or maybe Surma cheated off Anja. Maybe Surma cheated off Anthony?
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Strategic Tea posted:I reckon the 'isolating her from her support network' is a bit much. You don't have to be a brilliant schemer with a sophisticated grasp of psychology to be abusive Angry idiots do it all the time without even thinking about it
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Maybe Surma cheated off Anthony? No, it's pretty clear Anthony is Annie's father.
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I suspect if any intervention happens it'll be from Donald. Of course Kat is going to go to her parents about this, and I'd be very surprised if we don't learn about their view of Anthony's return this chapter.
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Annie kind of has a problem with authority. She knew Coyote was The Coyote and spanked him anyway. Renardine has been telling her for years that she shouldn't be cheating and has been doing it anyway. Annie knew the prohibition against unauthorized access to the forest and went anyway. She then proceeded to skip the detentions she got for doing so. The only authority figure she seems to respect other than her father is Ysengrin, who is a similarly cold, no-nonsense person. Jones gets an honorable mention, but since exercising authority isn't really her thing, and she actually isn't all that cold, it's kind of a moot point anyway. Ysengrin = dad, drat how did I miss that. Also haha Annie looks like she is literally taking a bullet for Kat. Also I am really weirded out by how drat ugly Anthony looks. Like I guess he got into some poo poo, what with his hand. SHISHKABOB fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Mar 30, 2015 |
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Mar 30, 2015 21:05
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MikeJF posted:At age 14? If you were in your proper final years, sure, of course, but at age 14? With no warning? That's a bit more than having cheated on your math homeworks, though. Widespread, repeated over a few years cheating would get you expelled in my country as well. And god helps you if you do so on certain final exams. They do not gently caress around with that.
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Magnificent!
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Mar 30, 2015 21:06
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Superb. I'm tempted to take this for my avatar, but I can't think of a good quote to go with it.
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Mar 30, 2015 21:13
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I'm not even really sure what a school is supposed to do when it comes out that they've been ignoring a problem like this for an unconscionable length of time.
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This syncs with my music!!!! actually I'm not listening to music right now but I feel like there's a song that goes well with Kat's stomping tantrum but I can't think of it right now.
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