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Waffle House posted:
No. gently caress no. God no. No. Oh god. No. I would take D1 single slam over this loving terrible piece of poo poo any day. The blast in D1 has a huge height and bigger radius. And the leap distance was at least double. And it actually did enough damage to shutdown enemy supers. You could add beefy aftershocker that did real damage or shockwave for even more distance. D2 roaming super is loving aids and is a detrimental half the time. I use the class for its sexy double pulse nades only.
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Don't forget that the double nade perk tree also gives you the "more height = more damage" modifier, so if you activate Fist at the bottom of a staircase and land at the top, you do LESS damage
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Apr 25, 2018 00:43
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Heyyy check out the gun in the background. CheeseFactory posted:No. gently caress no. God no. Terrible.  This sucks a ton of balls.
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Apr 25, 2018 00:45
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Finally, the poor neglected hive get some representation
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Apr 25, 2018 00:46
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The Hive haven't done anything since Oryx died, since then we got a Fallen campaign, a Cabal campaign and a Vex campaign. It's pretty much their turn again.
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Apr 25, 2018 00:50
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haveblue posted:Kinda wondering how "you get special rewards for winning a lot more than you lose" squares with "the matchmaking service will try to hold everyone to a 50% win rate" this was a while ago, but matchmaking (vaguely) tries to give you a 50 percent chance of winning a match, it doesn't try to make sure you win 50 percent of your matches. a lot of people mix this up, and over time average-ish players will gravitate towards fifty percent winrate, but the way the system (ideally) works is to just give you a generally fair shake in matches, not make sure you walk out of half of them a winner and half of them a loser. also, i don't know if they actually said what game types used glory and valor. A 50S RAYGUN fucked around with this message at 01:02 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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Apr 25, 2018 00:53
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vigilance wing good even when you can't click heads so good "You're surrounded, it's OVER!"  Heh... nothing personnel 
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Apr 25, 2018 00:57
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CheeseFactory posted:No. gently caress no. God no. 100% agree You can survive a titan slam by floofing/jumping/jetpacking to your max height as they slam under you. It's way more impotent than it used to be. It would be good if the shoulder charge was a one hit kill in super, but it isn't. If Eternal warrior gave you a d1 slam I'd never use anything else. Striker really stinks now that all the other bad supers have been buffed. Now that Armamentarium is coming back hammers is probably going to be my main.
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Apr 25, 2018 00:58
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:ORRRRR, or... or maybe... we put it on one planet as a Public Event that triggers every 15 minutes? You can trigger it whenever you want I thought
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Apr 25, 2018 01:02
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Legs Benedict posted:You can trigger it whenever you want I thought uhhhh if you think for ONE second that I'm going to know the facts before complaining a ton then you can just accept my apology, Friend
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Apr 25, 2018 01:04
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:uhhhh if you think for ONE second that I'm going to know the facts before complaining a ton Luv u too buddy 
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Apr 25, 2018 01:05
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yeah, my understanding is that it's a new activity. i don't know if it's like poe with it's own playlist or if it's like court/forge, but it seemed like players can do it on-demand.
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Apr 25, 2018 01:06
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Escalation Protocol is activated by a Patrol beacon, basically, costs nothing, and is open-world involvement like a Public Event.
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Apr 25, 2018 01:14
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cvnvcnv posted:Escalation Protocol is activated by a Patrol beacon, basically, costs nothing, and is open-world involvement like a Public Event. So... not really Fire Fight.
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Apr 25, 2018 01:40
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The idea that people complain of "handouts" in a loving video game is the most asinine thing imaginable. It's hard for me to process without seeing whoever invokes it as human trash. If somebody's one of the ten best players in the world, I don't mind handing them some cool-rear end looking award that sticks out like a neon sign declaring their greatness to everyone while they're busy dismantling stacks of shaders in menus. That's fine. However, the idea that you "put the time in" to make basic progress is the kind of language used to justify making a social video game seem like a job.
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Craptacular! posted:The idea that people complain of "handouts" in a loving video game is the most asinine thing imaginable. It's hard for me to process without seeing whoever invokes it as human trash. I'm not actually sure what feature (or missing feature?) you're disliking here. They want to add a form of reward that's available Fast, if you play well, or Slow, if you don't play well. Seems like a pretty good solution to the "add incentive to play/win activities but ensure that no play session feels Wasted" One thing I have mixed feelings on is gating Good PvP Gear behind Good PvP Performance. I'm not whining because I'll just :tenbux: it if I want it that badly, but balance-wise, it's questionable to make the best better. Conversely, are cosmetics a cool enough reward?
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Apr 25, 2018 01:56
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Increasing the grind and making power matter more sounds great, then I remember my titan has been forever 334 because I can't get a 330 chestpiece to save my life.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:11
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Am I wrong that the cool crucible gun would be unlocked some time far down the road for most casual “just playing a few hours crucible for the milestone per week” players? Like, the player only puts that much effort into crucible three months down the road the new cool awesome gun suddenly unlocks and they have a whole new reason to play some more? It seems like a good idea to me. If some sweaty boy wants to unlock it as soon as the game comes out be my guest but I’m cool with casual long term gains.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:30
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:I'm not actually sure what feature (or missing feature?) you're disliking here. As always, the trick is to make rad gear obtainable pretty quickly if you're güd, and provide a slow but steady path towards obtaining it if you're not. The last thing you want is for people to feel hopeless. But you also want to give people a drive to get it early and have it carry some cultural caché. If you want to add a cosmetic differentiation, that's good too but it should be awesome. Destiny 2 is hilarious because they did the total inversion, they made bad gear that's obtainable quickly in a way that feels hopeless. Just astoundingly bad decisions.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:32
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Blind Rasputin posted:Am I wrong that the cool crucible gun would be unlocked some time far down the road for most casual “just playing a few hours crucible for the milestone per week” players? Like, the player only puts that much effort into crucible three months down the road the new cool awesome gun suddenly unlocks and they have a whole new reason to play some more? It seems like a good idea to me. If some sweaty boy wants to unlock it as soon as the game comes out be my guest but I’m cool with casual long term gains. Yeah, like Clan levels there's Crucible ranks now. You unlock the sweet-rear end pulse rifle at rank 4 of 6.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:41
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Waffle House posted:Yeah, like Clan levels there's Crucible ranks now. You unlock the sweet-rear end pulse rifle at rank 4 of 6. Is there a good breakdown of the system yet anywhere? I understood that there was Valor and Glory, and they were tracked separately, and they each had different ranks, and one was for Wins and one was for Playtime, and presumably the reward for hitting "Valor 4" of 6 is different from "Glory 4"* of 6? *my stage name
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Is there a good breakdown of the system yet anywhere? I understood that there was Valor and Glory, and they were tracked separately, and they each had different ranks, and one was for Wins and one was for Playtime, and presumably the reward for hitting "Valor 4" of 6 is different from "Glory 4"* of 6? From https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/8emr1d/redrixs_claymore/dxwgbad/ quote:Redrix’s Claymore is available only as a Glory Rank reward for reaching "Fabled" tier.
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Apr 25, 2018 02:54
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Still unclear. Glory is obtained from playing Competitive mode, and goes up on wins, and down from losses or from "decay" (not playing for a while)? And Valor is obtained from playing Quickplay mode, and only goes up? My takeaway here seems to be "we're adding a bunch of Competitive Playlist-specific rewards"
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Apr 25, 2018 03:02
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:One thing I have mixed feelings on is gating Good PvP Gear behind Good PvP Performance. I'm not whining because I'll just :tenbux: it if I want it that badly, but balance-wise, it's questionable to make the best better. Conversely, are cosmetics a cool enough reward? this sort of thing pops up a lot in pvp discussion, but broadly speaking, the people who are good enough to get the guns are going to be facing other people good enough to also get the guns. in the days of random rolls, you could have people luck into god-rolled eyaslunas in bronze-tier elos and stuff, and they'd clean up, but good guns carrying people isn't really a thing to design around, and it's not really like wow twinks killing lowbies or something.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:06
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Still unclear. do we actually know this, that glory and valor are playlist specific?
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:do we actually know this, that glory and valor are playlist specific? The link in Waffle House's post had some reddit doofus say that, but who knows if it's accurate.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:08
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also, apparently 'valor and glory' is the name of an erotic rpg, which i learned by googling the terms trying to find info.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:09
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Show me your valor. No, your other valor.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:12
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Still unclear. Don't worry. It will all be explained to you in game.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:35
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Earn your valor at the glory hole.
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Apr 25, 2018 03:37
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BlindSite posted:Earn your valor at the glory hole. 10/10 would get hyped
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el B posted:Don't worry. It will all be explained to you in game. I found out you could stick shaders in your vault about two weeks ago.
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Apr 25, 2018 04:26
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texaholic posted:I found out you could stick shaders in your vault about two weeks ago. loving WHAT?
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Apr 25, 2018 04:41
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I figured that out on day one what the gently caress is wrong with y’all
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Apr 25, 2018 04:44
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texaholic posted:I found out you could stick shaders in your vault about two weeks ago. I hope someone at that Bungie event told the devs where they can stick shaders
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GoGoGadgetChris posted:Conversely, are cosmetics a cool enough reward? Yes, don't gate gameplay balance behind performance. Dota, Overwatch, etc all understand this, and players are beginning to understand the benefit. Even if it doesn't mean much, people now feel weird when equipment balance passes involve stuff that only a few players can get. Give the best PVP guys in the world a shader so their armor appears made of goddamn chromey-diamonds mined out of the vault of glass. But don't give them access to stats (and really gear is a collection of stats in this game) as an exclusive. What really good players really want is a way to make people see them and crap their pants in battle, or awe the people hanging in town. They don't undertake the challenge just to make combat more trivial than it is for them already. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Apr 25, 2018 |
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IronSaber posted:Also who are you kidding, Bungie. You'd bend over and spread your cheeks if Reddit bitched hard enough. correct, but right now reddit's bitching the most about performance not being recognized and no rewards to aspire to gain, because that's what the "community leaders" are telling them to be mad about
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Angry Walrus posted:correct, but right now reddit's bitching the most about performance not being recognized and no rewards to aspire to gain, because that's what the "community leaders" are telling them to be mad about Hey, I mean, it's not like these community leaders have any incentive to have loot gated behind difficult activities, right? btw, be sure to subscribe to my twitch channel and donate to be moved to the front of the line for carries and recoveries.
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VJeff posted:btw, be sure to subscribe to my twitch channel and donate to be moved to the front of the line for failed carries and me loving around on your PSN account
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dota and overwatch both aren't loot games so how the gently caress would they even give you better loot for being good at them i swear to God the first six months of this game it was all 'everything is too easy to get and i don't care about getting any of it' but the second there's a vaguely interesting toy people immediately rotate on their fencepost about tryhards who are going to farm their 420 elo lobbies with their Lord Shaxx's Codpieces and it's just unfair!
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