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fruit on the bottom posted:How much of Mass Effect 2 is thanks to EA? Because that was a good game. I'd say none. You could tell EA was involved by 3 however. Multiplayer
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fruit on the bottom posted:How much of Mass Effect 2 is thanks to EA? Because that was a good game. Mass Effect 2 had the Cerberus Network DLC (which included the Zaeed character and mission) that required you to buy a new copy of the game to get the code. This was an Electronic Arts mandate to try to suppress used game sales and sharing
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Oct 18, 2017 07:24
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When I think of EA, I think of a company that often hires talented people that make good games, and then they run as much corporate interference as possible to make some hypothetical money, which often sabotages said good games. Also, from a consumer angle they are the ones that introduced us to such cool concepts as online passes and threatening that sequels wouldn't be made if enough of us didn't go buy their games week one. Just look at their official statement on Visceral quote:“Our Visceral studio has been developing an action-adventure title set in the Star Wars universe,” EA’s Patrick Söderlund said in a blog post. “In its current form, it was shaping up to be a story-based, linear adventure game. Throughout the development process, we have been testing the game concept with players, listening to the feedback about what and how they want to play, and closely tracking fundamental shifts in the marketplace. It has become clear that to deliver an experience that players will want to come back to and enjoy for a long time to come, we needed to pivot the design.” They are just the worst
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Oct 18, 2017 07:35
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veni veni veni posted:When I think of EA, I think of a company that often hires talented people that make good games, and then they run as much corporate interference as possible to make some hypothetical money, which often sabotages said good games. Also, from a consumer angle they are the ones that introduced us to such cool concepts as online passes and threatening that sequels wouldn't be made if enough of us didn't go buy their games week one.
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Oct 18, 2017 07:38
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Samurai Sanders posted:What kind of idiot uses the word “pivot” seriously anymore? how else do you describe graceful turns on ice skates
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Oct 18, 2017 07:40
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Hopefully 'games as a service' will eventually bomb as hard as everyone needing their own MMO or MOBA.
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Oct 18, 2017 07:40
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video games are sixty to two thousand dollar rentals
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Sakurazuka posted:Hopefully 'games as a service' will eventually bomb as hard as everyone needing their own MMO or MOBA. It will support a few super popular games that make a shitton of money and the rest will fail
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Oct 18, 2017 07:41
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Sakurazuka posted:Hopefully 'games as a service' will eventually bomb as hard as everyone needing their own MMO or MOBA.
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Oct 18, 2017 07:42
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KICK BAMA KICK posted:Christ just reboot either TIE Fighter or KotOR, is this so hard to understand A new TIE Fighter game would kick so much rear end. gently caress it, consoles have USB ports now, make it so you need a keyboard and flight stick I'll still buy it.
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Oct 18, 2017 07:44
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homeless snail posted:it won't, cause they're putting Vegas to shame by managing to put slot machines into every house and phone in the world turns out unregulated gambling is a pretty lucrative business
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Oct 18, 2017 07:44
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I have never really hated EA like a lot of gamers have and there are quite a few EA games that I love to play. But a lot of this stuff is just signs of the times. Game development costs are huge now while the price of video games haven't increased. But as we have seen with GTA online, people are eating this kind of poo poo up.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:10
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blackguy32 posted:I have never really hated EA like a lot of gamers have and there are quite a few EA games that I love to play. But a lot of this stuff is just signs of the times. Game development costs are huge now while the price of video games haven't increased.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:16
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EA just seems especially egregious because even at the heart of the AAA market you can find people who genuinely enjoy making video games for a living, meanwhile EA has literal Ted Faro onstage talking about deliverables and the service-based online model while they ruin every beloved franchise they touch by turning them all into online MP arenas.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:17
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Yeah games are generally a good £10 more expensive here than they were last gen. FIFA 18 was like £50 even in stores, that's more like RRP/digital pricing.
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Oct 18, 2017 08:20
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exquisite tea posted:EA just seems especially egregious because even at the heart of the AAA market you can find people who genuinely enjoy making video games for a living, meanwhile EA has literal Ted Faro onstage talking about deliverables and the service-based online model while they ruin every beloved franchise they touch by turning them all into online MP arenas. I recently played through Horizon and I understand this reference. 
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Oct 18, 2017 08:24
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blackguy32 posted:I have never really hated EA like a lot of gamers have and there are quite a few EA games that I love to play. But a lot of this stuff is just signs of the times. Game development costs are huge now while the price of video games haven't increased. EA is sorta bad, but they did put out the Mirror's Edge games, which are some of my favorite games of all time. Also, A Way Out looks dope. ... and I still have fond memories of Road Rash
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Oct 18, 2017 08:29
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:
Just because they suck now doesn't mean they were always bad. I forget which episode it is, but in the Video Game years documentary series, they talk about how EA's founder wanted to elevate games beyond what we're at the time considered not much more than kids' toys. Hence, Electronic Arts in a very literal sense. They also pushed doing game boxes like album covers and wanted to be really creative instead of just having really basic box art. And finally, original EA did a lot to try to get developers recognized for what they were doing and did stuff to push that also. Then Trip Hawkins left to start 3DO and the rest is history. Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 08:57 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 08:52
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DrNutt posted:Just because they suck now doesn't mean they were always bad. I forget which episode it is, but in the Video Game years documentary series, they talk about how EA's founder wanted to elevate games beyond what we're at the time considered not much more than kids' toys. Hence, Electronic Arts in a very literal sense. They also pushed doing game boxes like album covers and wanted to be really creative instead of just having really basic box art. And finally, original EA did a lot to try to get developers recognized for what they were doing and did stuff to push that also. Yes....also "E A Sports....BIG"
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Oct 18, 2017 08:59
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Samurai Sanders posted:They have in Japan. I’m gonna buy Kyoei Toshi tomorrow for 8856 yen, or about $79. The Japan game pricing is on a scale, is it because of the work involved in a set product? Yakuza Kiwami 2 is being released for 7970 yen MSRP
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Adaptabullshit posted:The Japan game pricing is on a scale, is it because of the work involved in a set product? Yakuza Kiwami 2 is being released for 7970 yen MSRP Same as the Disaster Report games, I expect Kyoei Toshi to be janky as hell but I'm still probably going to buy it, even at that price. I've always been a sucker for the idea of a apocalyptic survival game but with no combat. Samurai Sanders fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Oct 18, 2017 |
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Oct 18, 2017 09:20
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8-bit Miniboss posted:I recently played through Horizon and I understand this reference.   Now someone make a .GIF of that scene at GAIA Prime except all the Alphas have EA subsidiary logos attached to their faces.
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Oct 18, 2017 09:29
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exquisite tea posted:
Ah right, that guy. I've seen people compare him to Handsome Jack from Borderlands.
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Oct 18, 2017 09:42
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Samurai Sanders posted:Who knows, there's always a million things that go into pricing of anything. I'm guessing it's related to the nicheness of the title and/or the licensing for all the featured monsters.
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Oct 18, 2017 09:44
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Yes....also "E A Sports....BIG" E A SPORTS! ...its in the game
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Adaptabullshit posted:I'm guessing it's related to the nicheness of the title and/or the licensing for all the featured monsters. As for the first one, I've seen really popular games that expensive too. They've been creeping up and up as the years go on.
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Oct 18, 2017 09:56
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Samurai Sanders posted:That last bit is clearly a thing. For Gundam Versus and SRWV there were two versions and the one with more licenced music was much more. Seems like Nintendo is keeping it's games at near-7000 max. A game like Super Mario Odyssey retails at 5980 (+tax)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJGwLqvRHOA
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blackguy32 posted:I have never really hated EA like a lot of gamers have and there are quite a few EA games that I love to play. But a lot of this stuff is just signs of the times. Game development costs are huge now while the price of video games haven't increased. you hear this a lot but considering poo poo like the recent voice actor strike or all of the talk about crunch and you realize that the games industry doesnt pay the people involved poo poo and nobody gets any royalties and they've been taking money for in game sponsorships and ~side hustle~ poo poo and i am seriously skeptical that the costs are up and the income is down
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Oct 18, 2017 11:32
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blackguy32 posted:I have never really hated EA like a lot of gamers have and there are quite a few EA games that I love to play. But a lot of this stuff is just signs of the times. Game development costs are huge now while the price of video games haven't increased. This isn't really as solid of a point as it first appears
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Oct 18, 2017 12:55
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Something that might be worth considering, just for proximity, is that EA Montreal (Motive Studios) is where some cherry-picked staff from Bioware Montreal were transferred after it was closed. The Bioware division that created Mass Effect: Andromeda. Vancouver and montreal are like 3500 miles apart
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Oct 18, 2017 12:57
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"Games never increased their prices above $60!" Okay, but  And you know as well as I do that for many, if not most, of these games, you don't actually get the full game if you don't stump up for these deluxe editions. Hell, we were talking about EA originally, didn't they take the ending of Dead Space 3 out of the base game and sell it as DLC?
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Oct 18, 2017 13:16
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The prices of digital games is loving ridiculous, I've NEVER seen a new game cheaper on Digital compared to retail. Plus with retail you can always sell it/trade it in if it sucks.
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Oct 18, 2017 13:21
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The prices of digital games is loving ridiculous, I've NEVER seen a new game cheaper on Digital compared to retail. Plus with retail you can always sell it/trade it in if it sucks. There's no reason to sell competitively, and no need to eventually make room for new stock on shelves.
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Oct 18, 2017 13:45
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Retail is always cheaper in Spain and after a few months you start to see retail prices drop quite a lot if the game is not a CoD, Fifa or Ubi. Even so, Ubisoft games like Siege, The Division and such got gold editions that were way cheaper retail.
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Oct 18, 2017 14:17
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Retail has almost always been cheaper. Digital has the advantage of convenience. And finding older titles easily
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Oct 18, 2017 14:19
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RIP Visceral and Dead Space 4, the game presumably about piloting spaceships to blow up zombie moons.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:The prices of digital games is loving ridiculous, I've NEVER seen a new game cheaper on Digital compared to retail. Plus with retail you can always sell it/trade it in if it sucks. Steam, origin and gog regularly have pretty huge sales with things going 50% off or more--I got titanfall 2 for $20 when frontier defense came out and it's on origin access now so you can get it and a bunch of other good stuff for $5 a month. Idk why that is only the case on PC but it is. I would have expected the price of new games to go up in the states from inflation alone by now and I wouldn't have a problem with paying $75 for them new if it meant they were just a legitimately complete package from the start and weren't 50% segmented into DLC packs or full of "games as a service" bullshit like reminders to buy loot boxes. That poo poo annoys me more than just paying more upfront would.
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Digirat posted:Steam, origin and gog regularly have pretty huge sales with things going 50% off or more--I got titanfall 2 for $20 when frontier defense came out and it's on origin access now so you can get it and a bunch of other good stuff for $5 a month. Idk why that is only the case on PC but it is. GoG and Steam have libraries so vast and competing between major and indie developers they can afford to knock prices down to 75+% off, especially when they're competing against piracy (ie; free). Consoles are isolated environments, and your options for a game are either pay RRP to get it now in the online PSN store, or go buy it in a physical retailer.
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