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run on sentience posted:Single use plastics were banned federally in 2022, but that was rescinded in November 2023. LOL. You could still just buy a package of plastic straws for personal use though. People will just think you're an earth murderer.
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Kwyndig posted:Freaked me out the first time I got one of those coffee cup lids on my soda and no straw. I hadn't thought about that, that seems preferable to a cardboard straw that starts off bad and gets worse as you use it. Qylvaran posted:Isn't that the point? 
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Captain Hygiene posted:I hadn't thought about that, that seems preferable to a cardboard straw that starts off bad and gets worse as you use it. Counterpoint: for every paper based straw in a cocktail I am sip-chugging it lest I deal with paper hell. for me this has been a boon, for other, questionable.
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"Full body deodorant" is what we call in my neck of the woods 'hot water and soap'.
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Full body deodorant is a chemical you slather over your body and don't wash off. As such it's different than plain old soap and water.
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Mar 9, 2024 02:21
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Ah, so it's basically Axe for women.
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Mar 9, 2024 02:22
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We've had paper straws everywhere in Australia for a while. They're terrible compared to the old plastic ones. Frozen cokes are very popular and the straws barely work for them. I've heard good things about bamboo straws.
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Mar 9, 2024 02:45
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Bamboo straws are vastly superior to paper ones.
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Mar 9, 2024 02:46
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Yeah, but then you'll have pandas snorting coke with them.
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Mar 9, 2024 03:08
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Is that more or less likely to make them gently caress properly?
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Mar 9, 2024 03:13
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I have a nice titanium straw.
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Marcade posted:Yeah, but then you'll have pandas snorting coke with them. or you cause false positives for bamboo fibers
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Mar 9, 2024 03:49
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I'm sure there's a reason I'm missing here, but it seems like they should just make "paper" straws out of whatever they make recyclable coffee cups out of? Instead of the kind that disintegrates.
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Mar 9, 2024 05:22
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm sure there's a reason I'm missing here, but it seems like they should just make "paper" straws out of whatever they make recyclable coffee cups out of? Instead of the kind that disintegrates. Surprise, it's plastic and they aren't recyclable!
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Mar 9, 2024 05:41
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Paper doesn't really recycle that well anyway. Compostable paper that was separated and actually composted would probably be the best thing to do, but that also almost certainly wouldn't work as a coffee cup and almost none of them would actually get composted.
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The goal with food touching paper is biodegradable because organic sugars and grease are instantly incompatible with economic paper recycling. Compostable is an added bonus but there is a want for degradable bulk in mixed stream waste to dilute the awful stuff so biodegradable is fine. Not a material scientist but I think there's options to get either compostable or biodegradable containers and straws that work to get your milkshake to your lips but their unit cost would not bring all the boys to your yard.
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Mar 9, 2024 16:08
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Shoot it into space
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Maybe they could make beverages into ferrofluids and we can just drink through magnetic rings in our lips
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Sir Lemming posted:I'm sure there's a reason I'm missing here, but it seems like they should just make "paper" straws out of whatever they make recyclable coffee cups out of? Instead of the kind that disintegrates. Many "paper" cups are laminated. So it's less plastic waste overall, but they aren't really recyclable, reusable, nor compostable. This would work for straws too, but why? Laminated paper would be the right solution if the problem we were trying to solve was that oil had become incredibly expensive, making plastic much more costly than paper.
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Brawnfire posted:Maybe they could make beverages into ferrofluids and we can just drink through magnetic rings in our lips Or they could put beverages into a sort of convenient container with an opening at the top that you could drink straight out of instead of having to use a straw. Alas, we just do not have the technology, and so straws continue to be the only possible way to consume a drink.
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Tiggum posted:Or they could put beverages into a sort of convenient container with an opening at the top that you could drink straight out of instead of having to use a straw. Alas, we just do not have the technology, and so straws continue to be the only possible way to consume a drink. Some people just love to suck. Can't get enough of it. I'm sure Freud would have opinions about it.
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Tiggum posted:Or they could put beverages into a sort of convenient container with an opening at the top that you could drink straight out of instead of having to use a straw. Alas, we just do not have the technology, and so straws continue to be the only possible way to consume a drink. Well yeah this is why I was suggesting a solution with such a simple implementation
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Mar 9, 2024 18:38
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Facebook Aunt posted:Some people just love to suck. Can't get enough of it. I'm sure Freud would have opinions about it. I only use plastic straws shaped like dicks.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:45
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I'm more annoyed at grocery stores moving to paper bags with zero handles then having the audacity to charge you per bag. Or, in some cases, continuing to use the plastic bags but still charging you extra. I'm fine with paper bags, but for the love of God, there are variants that have handles. They aren't the best handles but it is better than nothing. And charging extra per bag is just a scam. Sure, I could buy a reusable bag but I absolutely suck at remembering to bring the bag with me.
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Mar 9, 2024 18:57
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If Mork had just bred rapidly with humans, eventually Humans would all be able to drink through their fingers and wouldn't need straws
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Facebook Aunt posted:Some people just love to suck. Can't get enough of it. I'm sure Freud would have opinions about it. But enough about your posting
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jadebullet posted:I'm more annoyed at grocery stores moving to paper bags with zero handles then having the audacity to charge you per bag. Or, in some cases, continuing to use the plastic bags but still charging you extra. At least locally there's a plastic bag ban that includes a minimum cost per bag for single use paper bags as well.
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Captain Hygiene posted:But enough about your posting 
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jadebullet posted:I'm more annoyed at grocery stores moving to paper bags with zero handles then having the audacity to charge you per bag. Or, in some cases, continuing to use the plastic bags but still charging you extra. Just do what my wife did, she went to a thrift store, got about 20 reusable bags for 5 dollars and left 10 in each vehicle, so that there were always reusable bags for shopping. It works great, and at the store we shop at, you get a 10 cent discount for every reusable bag you bring use.
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I Miss Snausages posted:Just do what my wife did, she went to a thrift store, got about 20 reusable bags for 5 dollars and left 10 in each vehicle, so that there were always reusable bags for shopping. It works great, and at the store we shop at, you get a 10 cent discount for every reusable bag you bring use. Buy ten things, put each in its own bag, save a dollar?
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Mar 10, 2024 03:09
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Order a couple pallets of bags from alibaba, walk out a few grand richer each shopping trip
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Some places use these plastic-looking straws that come in wrappers that say they're biodegradable, and they work just as well as plastic so I'm not sure why they're not more popular over paper straws. I assume the reason is because the wrappers are lying and they aren't actually biodegradable.
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Knormal posted:Some places use these plastic-looking straws that come in wrappers that say they're biodegradable, and they work just as well as plastic so I'm not sure why they're not more popular over paper straws. All the alternatives to plastic straws are more expensive than plastic straws. Presumably the ones that actually work for more than 90 seconds are the most expensive.
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They're probably made of PLA plastic, which is biodegradable* *not actually biodegradable except in specialized high temperature industrial composting
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People sure complain about the paper straws, but I guess I just drink my drink too fast? By the time I finish, they usually start to feel like they're coming apart, but... shrug. It doesn't feel like a big sacrifice to have a less than perfect plastic straw that will won't end up in a turtle's windpipe.
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credburn posted:People sure complain about the paper straws, but I guess I just drink my drink too fast? By the time I finish, they usually start to feel like they're coming apart, but... shrug. What if we make local waste-to-energy plants instead of shipping waste around the world? Then our trash doesn't get to the ocean no matter what it is.
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pretty sure that means burning which is just hydrocarbons with extra steps , and with impurities and therefore less effective?
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BRB marketing coal as a hydrocarbon‐free energy source
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PhazonLink posted:pretty sure that means burning which is just hydrocarbons with extra steps , and with impurities and therefore less effective? Yeah, but but it's burning stuff we already aren't going to recycle. You could make an argument for sequestering the carbon by burying the trash, but we aren't going to do that either. Plastics you burn don't turn into micro plastics or join the pacific garbage patch, instead turning into much smaller trash and airborne carbon. Shipping trash involves trash getting lost all over the place, and also making more airborne carbon burning the fuel to move the trash around. Never mind that often a literal tonne of recyclable plastic gets rejected and sent to the landfill because it is contaminated by a a single poorly rinsed out yogurt cup. Stop trying to ship trash to poorer countries and let the people who made it deal with it.
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credburn posted:It doesn't feel like a big sacrifice to have a less than perfect plastic straw that will won't end up in a turtle's windpipe. My straws go to the landfill, what are YOU doing with your straws?
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