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Asuron posted:What we really need is a Davy Back type arc to give us more time with the crew. It was nice to get a short arc like that and have all those funny interactions. Mr. Maltose posted:What we need is another Davy Back arc. Bring back Foxy with a cool new post-timeskip design, that's what I say. I will murder the both of you in your sleep
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AnonSpore posted:I will murder the both of you in your sleep A new Davy Back arc would be the best, why do you hate fun? 
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Jul 9, 2014 16:43
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Vivi isn't a hugely interesting character though; she had a lot to do during Baroque Works and Alabasta, but without those she's just a regular person with a duck.
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Jul 9, 2014 17:44
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Broseph Brostar posted:A new Davy Back arc would be the best, why do you hate fun? Davy Back was so boring my eyes rolled back in my head. Shirahoshi becoming a strawhat would be the best. She wouldn't have to do anything. She would just stand around being huge and making every panel more amusing.
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Jul 9, 2014 18:47
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Captain Invictus posted:Two people who have absolutely no clue whatsoever about anything One Piece(or anime really) do a quick look of a recent One Piece game. Their reactions to various characters is preeeeeetty good. I just wish they had gotten to see Zoro fight so I could see their reactions 
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Jul 9, 2014 19:42
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Pretty sure Jimbe is the 10th and anyone else that comes along is going to be part of the strawhat fleet and/or outside ally.
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Jul 9, 2014 19:59
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Mr. Fowl posted:I just wish they had gotten to see Zoro fight so I could see their reactions I'm torn between their reactions of Franky shooting lazers and showing his body is powered by cola, or Chopper transformations, ending with his titan shift.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:08
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Sub Harrison posted:I'm torn between their reactions of Franky shooting lazers and showing his body is powered by cola, or Chopper transformations, ending with his titan shift. They at least got to see the name Franky Radical Beam which was almost as good.
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Jul 9, 2014 20:26
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Broseph Brostar posted:A new Davy Back arc would be the best, why do you hate fun? They probably watched the anime.
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Jul 9, 2014 21:49
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In the Black/White morality of the shonen manga, it's nice to see a dude who is not evil or necessarily malevolent but really just an rear end in a top hat. Foxy is that dude.
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Jul 9, 2014 22:58
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I think the people who think DBF was bad are remembering the anime version, which was undoubtably worse. Roller Ring Bullshit with fuckin' Leopard Man and Sanji supporting Porche by kicking underwater during the Red Light Green Light thing was stupid as poo poo. The manga version, however, was amazing! Chopper freaking out because he only became a pirate to be with Luffy, Zoro shutting him up, Zoro and Sanji co-operating for the first time in the entire series (and EASILY defeating powerful enemies the second they did so) were some of the coolest moments in Paradise. Not to mention no matter how you want to divide it to suit your argument, Long Ring Long island and the Aokiji encounter are technically part of that arc as well. It was great, face it.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:09
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Advice posted:I think the people who think DBF was bad are remembering the anime version, which was undoubtably worse. Roller Ring Bullshit with fuckin' Leopard Man and Sanji supporting Porche by kicking underwater during the Red Light Green Light thing was stupid as poo poo. The manga version, however, was amazing! Chopper freaking out because he only became a pirate to be with Luffy, Zoro shutting him up, Zoro and Sanji co-operating for the first time in the entire series (and EASILY defeating powerful enemies the second they did so) were some of the coolest moments in Paradise. Not to mention no matter how you want to divide it to suit your argument, Long Ring Long island and the Aokiji encounter are technically part of that arc as well. It was great, face it. Zoro and Sanji laying out those three dudes is still one of my favorite parts of the show.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:20
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Advice posted:I think the people who think DBF was bad are remembering the anime version, which was undoubtably worse. It's a shame too, because it really could've been awesome animated. I think part of the problem though is that it's between Skypeia and Water 7. The DBF being awesome and laid back was needed, especially at that point in the story, but I can see people not liking it for sticking out at being too different to everything around it.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:36
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Mr. Maltose posted:In the Black/White morality of the shonen manga, it's nice to see a dude who is not evil or necessarily malevolent but really just an rear end in a top hat. Foxy is that dude. You mean Blackbeard right?
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Jul 9, 2014 23:49
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Advice posted:I think the people who think DBF was bad are remembering the anime version, which was undoubtably worse. Roller Ring Bullshit with fuckin' Leopard Man and Sanji supporting Porche by kicking underwater during the Red Light Green Light thing was stupid as poo poo. The manga version, however, was amazing! Chopper freaking out because he only became a pirate to be with Luffy, Zoro shutting him up, Zoro and Sanji co-operating for the first time in the entire series (and EASILY defeating powerful enemies the second they did so) were some of the coolest moments in Paradise. Not to mention no matter how you want to divide it to suit your argument, Long Ring Long island and the Aokiji encounter are technically part of that arc as well. It was great, face it. Nope, I never watched a single episode of the anime and it was still poo poo.
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Jul 9, 2014 23:56
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Veskit posted:You mean Blackbeard right? Are you joking? Do you not remember Blackbeard brutally murdering Thatch in cold blood for his Devil Fruit? Dude is pretty malevolent, if not evil by Shonen standards.
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Jul 10, 2014 02:49
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Blackbeard is pretty much a cowardly, immoral version of Luffy.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:10
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That's Buggy, dude.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:12
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Where was it established that Blackbeard is cowardly? I don't remember anything like that.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:18
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Didn't Whitebeard straight up tell him the Will Of D wasn't in a man as cowardly as he was?
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Jul 10, 2014 03:21
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Tollymain posted:Where was it established that Blackbeard is cowardly? I don't remember anything like that. When he thought Whitebeard was about to kill him he was scared shitless and was pleading for his life, compared to Luffy or Roger's smiling in the face of death.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:22
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ladyboy pancake posted:That's Buggy, dude. That's Shichibukai Buggy D. Clown to you.
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Jul 10, 2014 03:26
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Are you joking? Do you not remember Blackbeard brutally murdering Thatch in cold blood for his Devil Fruit? I'm pretty sure it wasn't in cold blood, the implication was that he completely lost his poo poo when he saw Thatch about to eat his life's goal. He would have just stolen the fruit away if he could have, after all.
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Jul 10, 2014 04:43
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Are you joking? Do you not remember Blackbeard brutally murdering Thatch in cold blood for his Devil Fruit? When do we see that?
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Last Celebration posted:I'm pretty sure it wasn't in cold blood, the implication was that he completely lost his poo poo when he saw Thatch about to eat his life's goal. He would have just stolen the fruit away if he could have, after all. No it was calculated. Thatch had a conversation with a group of people about getting a devil fruit and Blackbeard happened to be there. Blackbeard then waited until everyone went their way, killed Thatch, and took off. Blackbeard could have asked Thatch for the fruit or offered something in trade if Thatch had turned him down, which it seemed like Thatch would have been cool with. Instead Blackbeard just surprise murdered him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk48KMnkuSU
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Gyges posted:No it was calculated. Thatch had a conversation with a group of people about getting a devil fruit and Blackbeard happened to be there. Blackbeard then waited until everyone went their way, killed Thatch, and took off. Blackbeard could have asked Thatch for the fruit or offered something in trade if Thatch had turned him down, which it seemed like Thatch would have been cool with. Instead Blackbeard just surprise murdered him. Maybe I missed it in the manga, but that seems like anime filler. All we saw in the manga was literally one panel of Thatch holding the fruit and Blackbeard getting furious in the background.
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Jul 10, 2014 05:07
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Last Celebration posted:Maybe I missed it in the manga, but that seems like anime filler. All we saw in the manga was literally one panel of Thatch holding the fruit and Blackbeard getting furious in the background. Yeah that's anime filler.
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Jul 10, 2014 06:14
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TheRamblingSoul posted:Are you joking? Do you not remember Blackbeard brutally murdering Thatch in cold blood for his Devil Fruit? No I don't remember it because that's not what happened in the manga. Please show your work. It's been a common running topic that Blackbeard isn't evil. You'd have to write a case for it because it isn't that simple. In fact, I still stand by my statement that Blackbeard isn't a black and white character. He's in a grey area along with the crew. In fact I'd wager Zoro and or Robin has murdered way more people than Blackbeard. Veskit fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Jul 10, 2014 06:25
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blackbeard mentions the fruit chose him, im not even sure if he killed thatch in cold blood.
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Jul 10, 2014 06:53
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Isn't the reason Ace even chased after Blackbeard is because he killed Thatch? Like I have no idea how he was killed, but Blackbeard had to kill him otherwise he wouldn't have fled with Ace chasing him.
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Jul 10, 2014 07:44
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bobjr posted:Isn't the reason Ace even chased after Blackbeard is because he killed Thatch? Like I have no idea how he was killed, but Blackbeard had to kill him otherwise he wouldn't have fled with Ace chasing him. Na, no one's saying that Blackbeard never killed Thatch, he openly admits that. It's just that cold-blooded murder kind of makes a difference in how evil he is.
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Jul 10, 2014 08:01
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Dude killed his brother to get fruit powers, pretty unambiguously evil to me.
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Jul 10, 2014 08:04
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Mr. Maltose posted:Dude killed his brother to get fruit powers, pretty unambiguously evil to me. He had to or else he couldn't eat two fruits.
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Jul 10, 2014 12:01
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Lpzie posted:He had to or else he couldn't eat two fruits. So he split his soul in half with a Horcrux?
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Jul 10, 2014 14:42
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Last Celebration posted:Na, no one's saying that Blackbeard never killed Thatch, he openly admits that. It's just that cold-blooded murder kind of makes a difference in how evil he is. How else can you describe what happened? It wasn't like Blackbeard asked him "Hey I've been searching for that DF my whole life, can I have it please?" and then Thatch just attacked him forcing him to defend himself. Blackbeard coveted the DF and knew he'd have to kill to get it. It was cold, calculated murder.
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It still doesn't make him mavelonent or evil until you understand his motivations better regardless of how cold the murder was.
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Jul 10, 2014 16:06
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Yep. Murdering your brother in cold blood is pretty morally ambiguous.
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Jul 10, 2014 16:10
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Wittgen posted:Yep. Murdering your brother in cold blood is pretty morally ambiguous. In a world where one of the protagonist murdered an entire city for dubious reasons, yeah it can be ambiguous. There are a lot of shades of what good and evil is. It's easily arguable that Luffy is more evil than Blackbeard for harboring so many mass murdering fuckwads but nobody would look at him as evil. It's perspective and relativity. Veskit fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Veskit posted:In a world where one of the protagonist murdered an entire city for dubious reasons, yeah it can be ambiguous. There are a lot of shades of what good and evil is. It's easily arguable that Luffy is more evil than Blackbeard for harboring so many mass murdering fuckwads but nobody would look at him as evil. It's perspective and relativity. Also, which of the protagonists murdered an entire city? Oh, Zoro on whiskey peak. Well, those were all diagonal slashes across the chest, they'll be fine in the morning. (See: Bleach) Bisse fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Jul 10, 2014 |
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Veskit posted:Luffy is more evil than Blackbeard for harboring so many mass murdering fuckwads An entire zero people who have taken a life, let alone multiple. I don't quite see why you are so bent making a case that Blackbeard is totes cool when the only time we have ever seen him not be an explicitly conniving badman is when he ate some pie and gave a speech about pirate dreams.
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