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pentyne posted:People who grow up and suffer from real/serious past traumas are probably less then 1% of the people freaking out online about safe spaces and demanding the removal of things they find offensive or triggering. Look at what happened at Yale when that one professor sent out an email stating "banning people from wearing racist costumes does nothing, if you see someone doing it make them aware of how it makes you feel blah blah blah" basically a little tone deaf but wholly emphasizing that people need to be engaging with things they disagree with don't understand rather then have institutions simply shield them from them entirely. Cue this I had never heard of this and just finished this article. 
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Frog Act posted:for really thorough readings i like the combo because i can write down more extensive stuff on my laptop, like whatever interpretation or relationship or whatever a passage makes me think about, and i can use the notebook for super quick reference to concepts/key ideas for discussions. that's really for excellent indepth stuff, or something i have to write about, or something thesis related, though, i've certainly been guilty of the two-hour 200 page book "grad student" hyperread history grad represent! I always wondered who was writing all those boring book reviews on JStor in undergrad. then I realized it was me, I had to write them 
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Is there any examples of people unironically believing in this? I saw the Yale video, but that seemed more of an anger management and self control issue then a special snowflake. I know tumblr is suppose to be a big one, but that site just seems to be people posting pictures and gifs of their pets and favorite tv shows, not really a forum for discussion(at least that I could find). This SJW stereotype stuff just seems to be a myth to me. edit: cool, I didn't know that had a word filter too.
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Frog Act posted:i had a student last semester mix up the Ayatollah, Richard Nixon, and Fidel Castro into one aggregate dictator who somehow ruled from Mexico This is the villain of my alt-history novel where Aztecs beat the conquistadors.
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Ausmund posted:Is there any examples of people unironically believing in this? I saw the Yale video, but that seemed more of an anger management and self control issue then a special snowflake. I know tumblr is suppose to be a big one, but that site just seems to be people posting pictures and gifs of their pets and favorite tv shows, not really a forum for discussion(at least that I could find). This SJW stereotype stuff just seems to be a myth to me. You've never been on a college campus or talked to a liberal arts major in the past 8 years then. I am quite happy with the resolve of the administrators at the University of Chicago. Academic inquiry and debate is returning to where it belongs. Where it can innovate. Blazing Ownager posted:Honestly I would be OK if the letter said "If you want a safe space, get hosed. If you want trigger warnings, here's your last one: 3.. 2.. 1.. go gently caress yourself. Good luck in the coming school year." Absolutely
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Rutibex posted:history grad represent! self confessed lolberal artsfag, shameful
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Helical Nightmares posted:You've never been on a college campus or talked to a liberal arts major in the past 8 years then.
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Helical Nightmares posted:Absolutely Every time I find myself agreeing 100% with something a goon says, I make sure it's not, like, WickedHate or Blazing Ownager or somebody. If so, I ask myself, "do you really want to agree with Blazing Ownager"? But here, I really don't have any choice, I agree 100% with Blazing Ownager and I'm not afraid to admit it. That was a really genuinely good post.
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Ausmund posted:Is there any examples of people unironically believing in this? I saw the Yale video, but that seemed more of an anger management and self control issue then a special snowflake. I know tumblr is suppose to be a big one, but that site just seems to be people posting pictures and gifs of their pets and favorite tv shows, not really a forum for discussion(at least that I could find). This SJW stereotype stuff just seems to be a myth to me.
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if we made liberal arts majors illegal none of this would be a problem
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Rutibex posted:I don't know if it counts as "the real world" but if you stand outside a gender studies class in a modern university (don't go inside!) you can see many examples. But he should go inside. Anyone who agrees or disagrees should go inside. To experience a philosophy different then their own and/or to develop a more nuanced and specific understanding of the views they choose and why they decide to espouse them.
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Horniest Manticore posted:if we made liberal arts majors illegal none of this would be a problem Science is a liberal art. 
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Horniest Manticore posted:self confessed lolberal artsfag, shameful going to a modern university transformed me from a communist into a believer in liberalism and capitalism. I think they hosed up
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ClamdestineBoyster posted:Science is a liberal art. there is only one true path, my son, and it is the path of stem. come back to the fold
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Horniest Manticore posted:there is only one true path, my son, and it is the path of stem. come back to the fold take a look, in a book
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Horniest Manticore posted:there is only one true path, my son, and it is the path of stem. come back to the fold The stem cause could really be brought further along if 90% of its adherents weren't unfuckable gnomes.
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Sheep-Goats posted:The stem cause could really be brought further along if 90% of its adherents weren't unfuckable gnomes. Get out of the Engineering campus and walk to the Biology one.
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Sheep-Goats posted:The stem cause could really be brought further along if 90% of its adherents weren't unfuckable gnomes. dawkins extends his noble hand, my child, but not forever. come home.
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Horniest Manticore posted:there is only one true path, my son, and it is the path of stem. come back to the fold Botany is the most liberal art
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Helical Nightmares posted:Get out of the Engineering campus and walk to the Biology one. I can confirm this
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Frog Act posted:i wish there was more money in history For the most part, I only ever hear bad things about the prospects from the early modernists I know. Kinda sucks and that's a major reason why I left the field - albeit for one where I could actually use most of my historical training, especially the research experience. The other was that I finally came to accept that the field isn't so interested in what I have to say about my pet topics in early modern English history at this point in time. As for book reviews, I wish undergrads did them more as they demand both concise writing and the ability to really think about what an author is saying. Many incoming students seem to need help in this department. I think doing them in high school may even be a good for a similar reason. The critical thinking tools they provide are not just useful for historians, but also applicable elsewhere in the world. Doing them in HS may also help freshmen avoid finding themselves unsure at how we can understand a source to be both biased while still be useful. (Which was another thing I ran across in a short time as a TA. Some students tended to even have this trouble with modern sources like news sites.) MeatwadIsGod posted:I had never heard of this and just finished this article. Yeah, that Yale situation was pretty rough and the response from many incoming or current students was similarly disappointing. Kind of why discussions about this stuff are so taxing now. So many people just don't seem to be thinking things through, or clearly just want everything to be their way. In some cases, people interpret disagreement or dissent as a sign that you're actually attacking them as an individual adding another layer to the issue. Doesn't even have to be about politics at this point.
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UofC rocks. I was gonna go there cause it's fantastic but I got a bigger scholarship at a crappier school. Bad idea  However it is next do a park where there's a ton of drug deals and rapes :/
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there is a designated safe space is inside my butthole
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My butthole has taught me that safety is a delusion.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I had never heard of this and just finished this article. it's tempered a little by the fact that life at expensive prestige colleges is pretty well known to take polite racism to dizzying extremes it doesn't make the reaction ok, but when you picture life where most people see themselves as "normal" and you as some sort of outlier and you just get politely excluded and talked down to all the time in ways that you can't really directly confront without making things worse for yourself.... I'll be honest, after the paragraph where she sounds like she's saying "isn't halloween a time to be obnoxious" or whatever, I'd probably have stopped listening and joined the mob too. in fact, now that i think about it that way, the ability of blogging and twitter to strip a quote of context, or just completely put words in someone's mouth through paraphrasing, is probably a big part of why these kinds of mobs gain momentum.
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I'm glad university administration is finally going "ENOUGH! You assholes pay enough every year that your little minds can deal with the fact the world is hosed-up. We're preparing you for that."
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School rules in my administration: Be excellent and cool to each other or you are EXPELLED!!!!!!
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Fire Barrel posted:In some cases, people interpret disagreement or dissent as a sign that you're actually attacking them as an individual adding another layer to the issue. Doesn't even have to be about politics at this point. humans have literally always done this. It's dumb and bad, but it's not a new phenomenon by any stretch
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So I skipped 5 pages while outside. Is Mordin keeping this thread alive? My guess
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Fire Barrel posted:For the most part, I only ever hear bad things about the prospects from the early modernists I know. Kinda sucks and that's a major reason why I left the field - albeit for one where I could actually use most of my historical training, especially the research experience. The other was that I finally came to accept that the field isn't so interested in what I have to say about my pet topics in early modern English history at this point in time. Holy poo poo
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Fact: Triggered is now a real life slang world used by real life college students as a substitute for 'casually upset' Source: Overheard a group of real life college students Context: "I was triggered by the professor giving us homework the first day of class."
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OMGVBFLOL posted:in fact, now that i think about it that way, the ability of blogging and twitter to strip a quote of context, or just completely put words in someone's mouth through paraphrasing, is probably a big part of why these kinds of mobs gain momentum. this also ain't at all new
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bourgie swine think safe spaces will save them
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proof of concept posted:this also ain't at all new now that you mention it, wasn't "sound-byte culture" a thing people said was wrong with gen-xers
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Triggered by this thread (masturbates furiously to orgasm). Seriously, great news, and I hope all of PC academia follows suit.
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mcustic posted:If they're looking for a Safe space, they should go to the South side They probably are on the South side, though, most of UofC is in Hyde Park...
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OMGVBFLOL posted:now that you mention it, wasn't "sound-byte culture" a thing people said was wrong with gen-xers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism and that's just since mass print became a thing it's not like gossip and rumors give a poo poo about being super accurate about context
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jon joe posted:Fact: Triggered is now a real life slang world used by real life college students as a substitute for 'casually upset' Long-term this is a good thing because it waters down the phrase to the point where no one can tell who is being casual and who is being serious, meanwhile psych people can act like professionals and adopt some new term for legit PTSD sufferers.
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