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Bacter posted:that involves you allowing somebody to come to the house and rape Grace? To further your career somehow?? Nooooooooo thanks <- it's really bad Whaaaaat. No. No. What the gently caress is wrong with this game. Why.
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Well, in all fairness, it's not like there's a SECOND way to show that Henry puts his career in front of Grace's health and well-being. No, honestly it reads like, and I said this FP, a youthful or bad writer trying to go for shocking as a replacement for scary. Some of the setups are so contrived and overwrought that they're laughable, and then sometimes they decide to just go for the worst thing they can think of. Congrats dude, some things are indeed uncomfortable, even in this modern era.
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Sep 26, 2018 02:21
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Jesus. This has wrapped around from 2edgy4me to actually kinda funny in how overwrought it is to downright hosed up.
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Sep 26, 2018 04:11
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Bacter posted:Going to work on this a little. I'm, uh... not SUPER interested in following the 'be as bad as you can be' path to the end, because based on some screenshots I've seen 
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Sep 26, 2018 06:33
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...Yeeeaaaah, that one crossed the line. Can someone help me stop my brain trying to imagine how that could possibly be described in poetry? I don't actually want to know.
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Sep 26, 2018 08:06
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Black Robe posted:...Yeeeaaaah, that one crossed the line. Hello and good evening Grace, this man will take in bed my place.
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Sep 26, 2018 08:20
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Black Robe posted:Can someone help me stop my brain trying to imagine how that could possibly be described in poetry? I don't actually want to know. I made it so you don't have to be alone in bed. In return a 5% increase in annual wages I get. I know, you're not all that wild, but that's the least you can do, after losing our child! uggh I feel sick. cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 08:29
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Since you're bring us no income, my wife Poverty and penury are afflicting our life To make us more money Your help I need, honey For the sake of a promotion, your body I have sold! Now lay back and think of me: for both our sakes be bold! And should a child be conceived, The slutty sire can be deceived, With threats of blackmail and publicity That would reveal his adulterous complicity Thank you, I'm going to go and bleach my brain now.
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Black Robe posted:...Yeeeaaaah, that one crossed the line. Wow you really did a great job infecting everyone else with that thought. Fantastic.
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Sep 26, 2018 10:11
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I SAID I DIDN'T WANT TO KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU  
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Sep 26, 2018 12:27
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...honestly, most of those were close enough in tone that they could legitimately be Henry's lines in that situation. I feel like I've infected you all  Look, I'm REASONABLY sure that the worst we'll see in our playthrough is a little light torturous murder! Bacter fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 13:28
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That's a lot of. Hmm. Err. 
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Sep 26, 2018 13:53
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It wouldn't be as bad if the game wasn't written by an extremely male dude who wrote the protagonist's wife as a doe-eyed and passive lady who just can't help but love the world's most useless but also terrible human being. There's a lot of depressing potential in a woman who married young and then ends up bedridden, so now her only source of socialisation and affection is a selfish and emotionally-distant husband who kinda hates her for having a miscarriage. That's some real poo poo right there, but instead we get a Grace who immediately jumps to "why yes, I love doing your chores and giving you blowjobs while you constantly ignore my needs" the second she gets a miracle pill and finally has the power to change her life somewhat. It's amazing how this game could be so much darker if it was just less grimdark.
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Sep 26, 2018 14:10
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Bacter posted:...honestly, most of those were close enough in tone that they could legitimately be Henry's lines in that situation. You didn't actually see the true ending yet, right?
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Sep 26, 2018 15:26
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a cartoon duck posted:It's amazing how this game could be so much darker if it was just less grimdark. That is an excellent point, and I remember it hitting me the first time with Doris. Like, remember Doris? Who is cutting up people and serving them as food? And we saw and PROBABLY recorded her in the act, while singing about it? That should REALLY, SERIOUSLY have been a big emotional point, that messes us up. The story should have at least highly included us dealing with that, right?! And the locker room crowd, where the guy is clearly getting terrorized by Doris because he took her parking space! The one time his confidence broke, and he was just really depressed and afraid! That was genuinely scary! The fact that a CANNIBAL MURDERESS is loose in the company deserves QUITE A BIT more screentime than it gets! This is a Big Honking Arc, or should be, but it just kind of fades into the background, because 1) there are so many other horrible things, and 2) Henry is 100% pathologically focused on his career and nothing else. I honestly don't know if he remembers that Doris is killing people, and he sure never gave it a second mention. We've brought up our bad dreams to our therapist like three times now, and haven't talked about Doris ONCE. Or to the police. I specifically remember thinking "Ok, you've officially lost me" when Henry decided to do nothing after he saw her getting cut up. And the weird thing is, I actually could believe that reaction from him, if it had been 2 days later! If we'd discovered it after we got the pills, but are going to get fired for sure unless we can come up with some test results RIGHT NOW, then absolutely, I believe that Henry might just let Doris do her thing, instead of taking what would be a fatal delay to his career! But day 1? We had no motivation not to rat her out! Maybe, MAYBE they were going for showing off that Henry is some kind of sociopath for just seeing that and going on with his life? Like, 'this doesn't personally affect me, so  "? Except no, that's not even true, because he owes Doris a ton of money and he knows she hates him, so getting her arrested ANONYMOUSLY is probably a fantastic idea!As was mentioned, Harris deserves... well, I might say a lengthy prison sentence and counseling, but he's 'evil' enough that killing him isn't going to tug on our heartstrings, and Henry thinks it's deserved. But here's the thing: only because Harris hassles him. I would easily believe that Henry would feel the exact same way about his boss, who just doesn't like Henry because he's lazy. Like, ok, to a certain extent, the plot is supposed to be that Henry's life is just barely barely barely barely not falling apart, and he's desperately trying to keep it together long enough to get this breakthrough and secure his future/fame or whatever. EXCEPT 1) We don't care, or even want him to fail, because he's so awful 2) The conditions for his fame are unbelievable enough that I don't buy it (YOU GOT THESE IN THE MAIL AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE!!!!) 3) He doesn't REACT to anything, except in the very short term, so it's hard to understand the stakes 4) We don't have any characters around that ARE reacting believably, so it's hard to establish an emotional baseline for this universe cant cook creole bream posted:You didn't actually see the true ending yet, right? I did - assuming it's the same for all the various endpoints you can reach. It's something else!  Edit edit: As for the horrible thing mentioned above, looked at some more screenshots by the user I saw it from, and It's Harris, of course. Presumably that's one way to get the animals. Now I REALLY don't feel bad about the murder!. Not that you all would expect otherwise, but the steam screenshots are SUPER spoilery, so avoid until we finish. We're close! Bacter fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Sep 26, 2018 |
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Sep 26, 2018 15:40
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Ok, we're officially rolling now: we made one of the Big Choices last time, so let's see how it plays out! One way or another, we're heading for a Content Warning: Mild gore. It's DESCRIBED as being super gross, but it doesn't LOOK so bad. Just don't think about it! Coming up on what's really the last Big Decision of the LP next update - and our consequences are starting to catch up with us! I'm really enjoying this, hope you are as well!
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Out of everything in that update, honestly the thing that offends me the most is what Henry does in the last bonus bit. He has less than no reason to do that.
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Sep 28, 2018 06:32
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For as badly written the game can be, and for how much I hate Henry, the latter part of the update had me genuinely tense.
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Sep 28, 2018 06:40
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^^^^ Yeah. It would have been cool if at one or two especially horrible moments in the game the characters did away with rhyming because they were too miserable for that noise. Henry's just awful though. Grace may be really weakly portrayed by the writers, sure, but Henry is just so god drat repulsive the game has to be in on it. Right? 
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Sep 28, 2018 06:47
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really queer Christmas posted:For as badly written the game can be, and for how much I hate Henry, the latter part of the update had me genuinely tense. Me as well, I thought Grace had gone straight to Hell.
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Sep 28, 2018 06:51
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quote:Henry's favorite one is the Count of Monte Carlo, because he always imagines himself as the count, and everybody who has ever so much as cut him off in traffic as Fernand Mondego. Yes, I had to google that. You're not better than me. Uh, pretty sure you mean The Count of Monte Cristo there.
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Sep 28, 2018 12:11
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Are you saying "close" and "goes" don't rhyme? 
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Sep 28, 2018 12:27
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Covski posted:Are you saying "close" and "goes" don't rhyme?
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Sep 28, 2018 12:52
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Covski posted:Are you saying "close" and "goes" don't rhyme? Close as in "near" not as in "to shut".
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The repeated emphasis on black spots on the ceiling would probably be more effective if we had a perspective that lets us actually see ceilings and any black spots there may be.tomanton posted:Henry is just so god drat repulsive the game has to be in on it. If nothing else, the therapy sessions have made it abundantly clear that Henry is a horribly selfish individual even towards the woman he loves, with no room for ambiguity. In this update alone curing his wife's terminal illness was an afterthought for him. I think it's just that thing where as readers we're primed to sympathise with the protagonist of a story, then feel confused and uneasy when the protagonist doesn't deserve our sympathy. If I were to give the author some credit, that feeling is probably intentional given how the setting's sheer bleakness contrasts with Henry's low-key awfulness to fool us into thinking we're the better man here, before it sinks in we're just another petty douchebag. It might've even worked if we hadn't been primed to look at all the ways Henry's a terrible human being from the thread title.
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The_White_Crane posted:Uh, pretty sure you mean The Count of Monte Cristo there. ... See, here's the problem with making fun of people. If you're wrong, it's just so, so much worse
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Sep 28, 2018 14:13
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Today's worst rhyme:quote:This room... my sweet darling child that never was... The non-rhyme, the misspelling, and the prepositional pile-up combine to make this a real tour de force.
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Sep 28, 2018 14:56
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a cartoon duck posted:The repeated emphasis on black spots on the ceiling would probably be more effective if we had a perspective that lets us actually see ceilings and any black spots there may be.
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Sep 28, 2018 15:23
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goons posted:words about how "close" and "goes" don't rhyme Nope, gonna trust my perfect Swedish English skills here, they actually rhyme perfectly 
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Covski posted:Nope, gonna trust my perfect Swedish English skills here, they actually rhyme perfectly THAT should have been the thread title!
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Sep 28, 2018 16:35
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I never even knew close and close where pronounced differently and apparently "goes" is spelled way softer in proper English, so I'm totally willing to give them some slack here.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:12
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cant cook creole bream posted:I never even knew close and close where pronounced differently and apparently "goes" is spelled way softer in proper English, so I'm totally willing to give them some slack here. Yeah, that's one of those fun words in English where they're spelled the same but pronounced completely differently depending on which one you use. Tear and tear are another pair that give would-be English speakers headaches.
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Dr. Snark posted:Yeah, that's one of those fun words in English where they're spelled the same but pronounced completely differently depending on which one you use. Tear and tear are another pair that give would-be English speakers headaches. Yeah, but the difference is actually less noticeable in British English, since they generally use less of those sharp "z" sounds. Unlike Again/Pain, you can totally argue that this is a rhyme in British English.
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cant cook creole bream posted:Yeah, but the difference is actually less noticeable in British English, since they generally use less of those sharp "z" sounds. Unlike Again/Pain, you can totally argue that this is a rhyme in British English. I'm British, and there's no dialect I've ever heard where those would rhyme.
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Sep 28, 2018 18:50
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The_White_Crane posted:I'm British, and there's no dialect I've ever heard where those would rhyme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4qeLqfPuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bmMFMiT5i8
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Sep 28, 2018 18:53
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A) By "those" I meant "close/close". B) Those two don't sound like they rhyme to me, the vowel sound is audibly longer in "pain".
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They've even got the same origin!Etymonline posted:close (v.) and "Etymonline posted:close (adj.) I'd love to find out why the words started to be pronounced differently. Edit: Maybe a pronunciation shift between 12c and 14c? Bacter fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 19:10
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The_White_Crane posted:A) By "those" I meant "close/close". I'm not above admitting my mistakes, so you're most likely right. Also it's kinda annoying to find a fitting international pronunciation guide for those quasi-homonyms, so I wont even bother.
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Also British and personally I'd give Again and Pain a pass. Not sure if it's a Northern thing but I pronounce them 'ah-gay-n' and 'pay-n'. In the South I'd expect to hear 'ah-geh-n' though. The moon language that is the phonetic alphabet has them down as the same anyway: "peɪn" and "əˈɡeɪn" (or "əˈɡɛn"). Speaking of, maybe the dev could have used that as a resource, but to be fair they were quite busy doing all of the everything.
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The bad poetry bothered me more at first, but now that everything else is terrible I find myself minding it less.
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