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LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Because I am an insane, weird nerd, someone mentioned lineal TUF champs in the Discord, and I figured, "what the hell else am i doing with my time?" so here we go!

TUF 1
Middleweights: Diego -> Koscheck -> GSP
Light Heavyweights: Forrest -> Tito -> Chuck -> Rampage -> Forrest (x2) -> Rashad -> Machida -> Shogun -> Jon Jones

TUF 2
Heavyweights: Rashad -> Machida -> Shogun -> Jon Jones
Lightweights: Joe Daddy -> Neer -> Burkman -> Karo -> Thiago Alves -> GSP

TUF 3
Middleweights: Da Spyder -> Cote -> The Spider -> Weidman -> Rockhold -> Bisping -> GSP
Light Heavyweights: Bisping -> Rashad -> Machida -> Shogun -> Jon Jones

TUF 4
Middleweights: Lutter -> The Spider -> Weidman -> Rockhold -> Bisping -> GSP
Welterweights: Serra -> GSP

TUF 5
Lightweights: Nate Diaz -> Guida -> Diego -> BJ -> Edgar -> Bendo -> Pettis -> RDA -> Alvarez -> Conor -> Khabib

TUF 6
Welterweights: Mac Danzig -> Guida -> Diego -> BJ -> Edgar -> Bendo -> Pettis -> RDA -> Alvarez -> Conor -> Khabib

TUF 7
Middleweights: Amir Sadollah -> Hendricks -> Rick Story -> Charlie Brenneman -> Rumble -> Vitor -> Jon Jones

TUF 8
Light Heavyweights: Bader -> Jon Jones (:laffo:)
Lightweights: Escudero -> Dunham -> Sherk

TUF 9
Lightweights: Pearson -> Miller -> Wiman -> Siver -> Cowboy -> Nate Diaz -> Bendo -> Pettis -> RDA -> Alvarez -> Conor -> Khabib
Welterweights: Wilks -> Brown -> Almeida -> Hughes -> Penn -> Nick Diaz -> Condit -> GSP

TUF 10
Heavyweights: Big Country -> JDS -> Cain -> Werdum -> Stipe -> DC -> Stipe (x2) -> N'gannou

TUF 11
Middleweights: McGee -> Costas -> Carmont -> Jacare -> Yoel -> Whittaker -> Izzy -> Jan -> Glover

TUF 12
Lightweights: Brookins -> Koch -> Lamas -> Aldo -> Conor -> Nate -> Conor (x2) -> Khabib

TUF 13
Welterweights: Ferguson -> Michael Johnson -> Jury -> Cowboy -> RDA -> Alvarez -> Conor -> Khabib

TUF 14
Bantamweights: Dodson -> DJ -> Cejudo
Featherweights: Brandao -> Elkins -> Mendes -> Aldo -> Conor -> Nate -> Conor (x2) -> Khabib

TUF 15
Lightweights: Chiesa -> Masvidal -> Khabilov -> Bendo -> RDA -> Alvarez -> Conor -> Khabib

TUF 16
Welterweights: Colton Smith -> Whittaker -> McGee -> LaFlare -> Maia -> TWood -> Usman

TUF 17
Middleweights: Gastelum -> TWood -> Usman

TUF 18
Bantamweights: Chris Holdsworth
Womens Bantamweights: Pena -> Valentina -> Nunes -> Pena (x2)

TUF 19
Middleweights: Gordon -> Samman -> Barn Cat -> Jotko -> Branch -> Rockhold -> Yoel -> Whittaker -> Izzy -> Jan -> Glover
Light Heavyweights: Beastin 25/8 -> Gian Villante -> Tom Lawlor -> Beastin 25/8 (x2) -> Shogun -> Anthony Smith -> Jon Jones

TUF 20
Strawweights: Carla -> Joanna -> Rose -> Andrade -> Weili -> Rose (x2)

TUF 21
Welterweights: Usman

TUF 22
Lightweights: Ryan Hall -> Ilia Topuria

TUF 23
Strawweights: Tatiana Suarez
Light Heavyweights: Andrew Sanchez -> Anthony Smith -> Thiago Santos -> Branch -> Cannonier -> Whittaker

TUF 24
Flyweights: Elliott -> DJ -> Cejudo

TUF 25
Welterweights: JT $ -> Ustarmagomed Gadzhidaudov

TUF 26
Womens Flyweights: Montano -> Pena -> de Randamie

TUF 27
Featherweights: Brad Katona -> Merab Dvalishvili
Lightweights: Trizano -> Grant Dawson

TUF 28
Heavyweights: Espino -> Alex Romanov
Womens Featherweights: Chiasson -> Lansberg -> McMann -> Pena

TUF 29
Bantamweights: Ricky Turcios
Middleweights: Bryan Battle

TUF Brazil 1
Featherweights: Rony Jason -> Jeremy Stephens -> Cub -> Frankie -> Aldo -> Max -> Poirier -> Khabib
Middleweights: Cezar Mutante -> CB Dollaway -> Machida -> Rockhold -> Bisping -> GSP

TUF The Smashes
Lightweights: Norman Parke -> Tibau -> Ferguson -> Gaethje -> Khabib
Welterweight: Whittaker -> McGee -> LaFlare -> Maia -> TWood -> Usman

TUF Brazil 2
Welterweights: Leonardo Santos -> Grant Dawson

TUF China
Welterweights: Lipeng Zhang -> Chris Wade -> Khabliov -> Diego Ferreira -> Dariush
Featherweights: Guangyou Ning -> Marco Beltran -> Joe Soto -> Brett Johns -> Aljo

TUF Nations
Welterweights: Chad Laprise -> Trinaldo -> Kevin Lee -> Ferguson -> Gaethje -> Khabib
Middleweights: Theodorou -> Thiago Santos -> Mousasi -> Rafael Lovato Jr

TUF Brazil 3
Middleweights: Warlley Alves -> Barberena -> Colby -> Usman
Heavyweights: Face Shoe -> Cummins -> OSP -> Glover -> Rumble -> DC -> Jon Jones (PATH 1)
Heavyweights: Face Shoe -> Cummins -> OSP -> Glover -> Rumble -> DC -> Stipe -> N'gannou (PATH 2)
Path explanations: DC lost to Jones via head kick KO, fight was overturned to a No Contest when Jones tested positive for steroids

TUF Latin America 1
Bantamweights: Alejandro Perez -> Patrick Williams -> Tom Duquesnoy -> Cody Stamann -> Aljo
Featherweights: Yair -> Frankie -> Ortega -> Max -> Dustin -> Khabib

TUF Brazil 4
Bantamweights: Reginaldo Vieira -> Marco Beltran -> Joe Soto -> Brett Johns -> Aljo
Lightweights: Glaico Franca -> Vick -> Dariush -> Edson -> Khabib

TUF Latin America 2
Lightweights: Enrique Barzola -> Bochniak -> Jeremy Kennedy -> Volkanovski
Welterweights: Erick Montano -> Randy Brown -> Belal -> Geoff Neal -> Stephen Thompson -> Gilbert Burns

TUF Latin America 3
Lightweights: Martin Bravo -> Humberto Bandenay -> Gabriel Benitez -> Sodiq Yusuff -> Arnold Allen

Final Tallies:

Khabib Nurmagomedov: 12
GSP: 7
Jon Jones: 7
Usman: 5
Aljo: 3
N'Gannou: 2
Glover: 2
Cejudo: 2
Pena: 2
Dawson: 2
Sherk: 1
Holdsworth: 1
Rose: 1
Topuria: 1
Suarez: 1
Whittaker: 1
Gadzhidaudov: 1
de Randamie: 1
Merab: 1
Romanov: 1
Turcios: 1
Battle: 1
Dariush: 1
Lovato: 1
Volkanovski: 1
Burns: 1
Allen: 1

Total TUF Crowns: 61 (includes the DC split path)

Two lineal TUF crowns are outside the UFC. 23 are held by people that no longer fight (Khabib, GSP, Holdsworth, Sherk. Lovato's MMA career is up in the air, though he still does grappling. GdR is probably retired as well)

16 lineal TUF crowns are held by current UFC champions

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Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib
Is that the biggest miss in weigh in UFC history?

I want to say Mayhem holds the record at 24lbs in all of mma

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Digital Jedi posted:

Is that the biggest miss in weigh in UFC history?

I want to say Mayhem holds the record at 24lbs in all of mma

Lew Polley missed a WSoF light heavyweight bout by 32 pounds

Gabi Garcia missed in Rizin by 12.7kg pounds for a 95kg bout (i dont know what that becomes in american weights)

e: 12 pounds is the biggest total amount, but per google, there was a featherweight fighter that missed the mark by 11.6, which is a huge portion of total body size, compared to a 12 pound light heavyweight miss

LobsterMobster fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Feb 11, 2022

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

LobsterMobster posted:

12.7kg pounds

I know its a typo, but this gave me a good chuckle :lmao:

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Fozzy The Bear posted:

I know its a typo, but this gave me a good chuckle :lmao:

12,700 kilo-pounds

Foul Fowl
Sep 12, 2008

Uuuuh! Seek ye me?
what about that fat gently caress who missed the heavyweight limit for the first time in ufc history?

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003


This is a preposterous amount of great work and I appreciate the existence of a lineal Ryan Hall championship that Ryan Hall lost and will never hold again.


I can't tell if this makes my "Knight will physically bully Grishin" prediction more or less likely. Either way, that is god damned impressive levels of weight missing.

Digital Jedi posted:

Is that the biggest miss in weigh in UFC history?

I want to say Mayhem holds the record at 24lbs in all of mma

It's the single largest weight miss, but Paulo Costa was contracted for 185, said he couldn't make it, agreed to 195, said he couldn't make it, settled on 205 and wound up at 204.5. So you could argue either that he missed weight by 19.5 pounds, or that he missed weight by 9.5 pounds, or that he was actually .5 pounds underweight, and any of these statements would be technically correct.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
Gooooooonweight, getcha goonweight right here

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
:wtc: :piss:

https://twitter.com/Matysek88/status/1491346143825244163

we got a 75 year old man plus his grandson, "BIG IGIBOB" taking on a lady, because russia is insane

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


I've done lineal championship tracking from every time the a major organization has had a fight for a vacant undisputed belt or a world GP, and i won't post it all, but there are some interesting revelations in there:

*GSP is the lineal original Light Heavyweight champion"

First UFC 205 Belt Lineage
Georges St Pierre ko
Michael Bisping ko
Luke Rockhold sub
Michael Bisping tko
Cung Le ko
Rich Franklin dec (@190 lb)
Wanderlei Silva tko
Cung Le ko
Scott Smith ko
Cung Le tko
Frank Shamrock (sub Kevin Jackson)

*Going into Sonnen-Silva 1, Sonnen was the two-time lineal champion:
UFC Belt Lineage
Georges St. Pierre sub
Michael Bisping ko
Luke Rockhold tko
Chris Weidman ko
Anderson Silva sub
Chael Sonnen dec
Nate Marquardt ko
Demian Maia sub
Chael Sonnen dec
Paulo Filho def
Kazuo Misaki def
Dan Henderson def
Murilo Bustamante def
Dave Menne (def Gil Castillo)

* The Lineal title from the Pride GP is a wild loving ride with some forks in it where where poo poo happened:

Pride LW GP
Raphael dos Anjos tko (unifies with UFC title)
Donald Cerrone dec
Eddie Alvarez dec <<<
Michael Chandler ko ^^
David Rickels tko ^^
Saad Awad tko ^^
Will Brooks tko ^^
Satoru Kitaoka dec ^^
Katsunori Kikuno tko ^^
Yuichiro Nagashima ko or Eddie Alvarez tko^^
Shinya Aoki def
Tatsuya Kawajiri def
Kazunori Yokota def
Eijii Mitsuoka def
Sergey Golyaev def
Takanori Gomi def
Mitsuhiro Ishida def
Marcus Aurelio def
Takanori Gomi (def Hayato Sakurai)

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud

Wow, Knight makes $10k/$10k and loses 40% of his base pay for missing weight. At $6k/$10k he must be DESPERATE for any money.

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY
I wonder what that works out to per hour for his camp. Had to be less than minimum wage.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
I saw people saying he took the fight on super short notice and there basically was no camp, I thought that meant like 2-3 days or something, but looks like Knight replacing Ed Herman on this card was public on the 29th of January, how big do you think he walks around? drat.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



It's hard out here for a Big Boy a month out from Christmas, cut him some slack

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Brut I see that you ditched the OTN predictions - was that because it's a gigantic pain in the rear end and has literally never been a factor?

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
Yeah it was a copy/pasting mess especially when there's like 14-fight cards (like this one), hasn't even come close to mattering. Plus it has less to do with the fights and more what Dana White thought that night which feels weird too.

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

Brut posted:

I saw people saying he took the fight on super short notice and there basically was no camp, I thought that meant like 2-3 days or something, but looks like Knight replacing Ed Herman on this card was public on the 29th of January, how big do you think he walks around? drat.



I'm going with "roughly the weight of Jupiter"

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Brut posted:

Yeah it was a copy/pasting mess especially when there's like 14-fight cards (like this one), hasn't even come close to mattering. Plus it has less to do with the fights and more what Dana White thought that night which feels weird too.

Maybe bring it back for the last few cards of the season if it looks like a tie is possible. You could even just do the fighter name list and just count FOTN as a POTN, to save having to copy/paste multiple lists.

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
ONE Bad Blood was this morning, here is my report:

Great Fights:
https://youtu.be/BQ_Th5_F9cs?t=731 (12:11) Danial Williams vs. Dejdamrong Sor Amnuaysirichoke (MMA)
https://youtu.be/BQ_Th5_F9cs?t=7212 (2:00:12) Jonathan Haggerty vs. Mongkolpetch Petchyindee (Muay Thai)

Great Submission
https://twitter.com/ONEChampionship/status/1492099634008756224

Brutal Nut Shot
https://twitter.com/ONEChampionship/status/1492092737520164864

Marching Powder
Mar 8, 2008



stop the fucking fight, cornerman, your dude is fucking done and is about to be killed.

Bluedeanie posted:

Let's just say "petite Mexican eats poo poo" won't get you gifs of the Mighty Mouse Cejudo 1 finish. Please learn from mistakes

Lol

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

So Schnell/Perez is off the card because Schnell refused to accept the fight after Perez missed weight by 2 pounds. This is now the fourth time this fight has been scratched. Please stop trying to book it.

https://twitter.com/FullContactMTWF/status/1492005032572588032

actually maybe just stop booking matt schnell

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

CarlCX posted:

So Schnell/Perez is off the card because Schnell refused to accept the fight after Perez missed weight by 2 pounds. This is now the fourth time this fight has been scratched. Please stop trying to book it.

https://twitter.com/FullContactMTWF/status/1492005032572588032

actually maybe just stop booking matt schnell

This is the 3rd time someone's missed weight in this saga too. Initially when Perez was pulled Schnell's new opponent was over, then it got rebooked, rescheduled and schnell missed weight but they had to postpone it anyway because Perez had a "medical issue" and now Perez has missed weight.

It's like Ferguson/Khabib except no one cares.

ccubed
Jul 14, 2016

How's it hanging, brah?

Is there a better replay? Like in slowmo? Because that looked legal after a few rewatches.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?
Someone posted "don't be scared, honey" as a Biden quote and I naturally misread it as "don't be scared, homey" and imagined Biden throwing up the Stockton hey buddy in someone's face

CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

BlindSite posted:

This is the 3rd time someone's missed weight in this saga too. Initially when Perez was pulled Schnell's new opponent was over, then it got rebooked, rescheduled and schnell missed weight but they had to postpone it anyway because Perez had a "medical issue" and now Perez has missed weight.

It's like Ferguson/Khabib except no one cares.

It really is baffling. Just...book them against other people. It'll be fine.

Also in poo poo, Rafael Fiziev hasn't been able to get his visa together in time for next week so Rafael vs Rafael is off and currently planned to get pushed back to co-main at 272 in March. Your new main event for next week's fight night is Johnny Walker vs Jamahal Hill. That is...unfortunate.

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
Is that camp of people in Thailand right now just full of people waiting for their visa or something?

Fentry
Mar 7, 2003



Joe Rogan just got pulled from commentating 271 at the last minute

https://twitter.com/MMAFighting/status/1492283004126908417

blue footed boobie
Sep 14, 2012


UEFA SUPREMACY
There has to be something else that’s going to drop. Dana wouldn’t flinch at credible allegations of racism.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

blue footed boobie posted:

There has to be something else that’s going to drop. Dana wouldn’t flinch at credible allegations of racism.

Everyone in the UFC from top to bottom has been behind Rogan, unless it's someone above Dana being weird about it all.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Brut posted:

Is that camp of people in Thailand right now just full of people waiting for their visa or something?



i recognize khamzat and raffy fizz

anyone else of note that my brain can't place?

Brut
Aug 21, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 9 days!
I have no idea either, I feel like I should remember who second from the right crouching is but...I don't.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
Touching a sweaty guys skin, with my sweaty bare skin, I could never be a MMA fighter.

Bluedeanie
Jul 20, 2008

It's no longer a blue world, Max. Where could we go?



Fozzy The Bear posted:

Touching a sweaty guys skin, with my sweaty bare skin, I could never be a MMA fighter.

Googled this and also only got porn. Think I gotta turn safesearch back on

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

LobsterMobster posted:

i recognize khamzat and raffy fizz

anyone else of note that my brain can't place?

You did that big breakdown for TUF so I figured why not break it down on this picture. I got too much time on my hands.

Short of it is I don't think so. But also there is a Bellator Champ in the picture.


  1. Egor - Coach I think
  2. Shimon Smotritsky - RCC Boxing Promotions (Lost a fight on the contender series last year)
  3. ???
  4. Nikolai Aleksakhin - PFL
  5. Marif Piraev - Absolute Championship Akhmat
  6. Khazmat - UFC
  7. Yaroslav Amosov - Current Bellator Welterweight World Championship.
  8. Andreas Michael - Coach
  9. Kirill Gorobets - WWFC Lightweight Championship
  10. ???
  11. Ismail Naurdiev - Brave CF (1-2 record in the UFC)
  12. Artem Frolov - Absolute Championship Akhmat
  13. Vladimir Kanunnikov - ProFC & OpenFC lightweight champ
  14. Rafael Fiziev - UFC
  15. Nurullo Aliev - Eagle Fighting Championship
  16. ???

Scapegoat
Sep 18, 2004

blue footed boobie posted:

There has to be something else that’s going to drop. Dana wouldn’t flinch at credible allegations of racism.

I don't think Dana cares but it's probably more that it would be a distraction with every post fight interview being the fighter supporting Joe's vaccine position or dropping N bombs for their buddy Joe.

TheKingslayer
Sep 3, 2008

ESPN being owned by Disney would probably be the reason Rogan was pulled if anything. If that's even the reason of course.

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009

If it was I assume a statement would be released so they could garner the adoration from the only people that care (twitter).

Boco_T
Mar 12, 2003

la calaca tilica y flaca
whoa
http://twitter.com/RichardAMann/status/1492324584531668992

BlindSite
Feb 8, 2009


Jesus

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CarlCX
Dec 14, 2003

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3993389

GDT is up. Prelims begin in just under an hour.

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