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This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with: Music: Bolero Movie (Live Action): Adaptation Movie (Western Animation): It's Such a Beautiful Day Movie (Anime): Paprika Movie (Documentary): Cane Toads Stage Play: The House of Yes Musical Theater: The Book of Mormon Video Game: Braid Comic (Newspaper): The Far Side Comic (Web): Lady of the Shard Comic (Western): Through the Woods Comic (Manga): Mushishi Novel (Book): House of Leaves Novel (Online): Worm Non-Fiction Book: Into Thin Air TV (Live Action): Breaking Bad TV (Western Animation): Futurama TV (Anime): Paranoia Agent Painting: Saturn Devouring His Son Sculpture: Samson Slaying a Philistine Poem: In A Station of the Metro
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Izzhov posted:This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with: cool
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Sep 30, 2016 21:29
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im not going to get into that much but the idea that the book of mormon could be considered to have any artistic merit makes me doubt the rest of your list
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Sep 30, 2016 21:32
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i lied about it being cool
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Sep 30, 2016 21:32
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:im not going to get into that much but the idea that the book of mormon could be considered to have any artistic merit makes me doubt the rest of your list Musical theater was by far the hardest category for this. I was also thinking, like, Les Miserables, but I didn't want to put anything for a medium that wasn't originally in that medium. Next hardest was Western Animation Movies since like 99.9% of those are for kids.
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Sep 30, 2016 21:35
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One time The Punisher&Spider-Man had to fight an 8 foot tall Russian Cyborg with massive implants probably nsw http://puu.sh/rtfYC.jpg
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Sep 30, 2016 21:36
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Also one time The Punisher killed the rest of humanity that had escaped to a moon colony because somebody probably raped somebody else
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Sep 30, 2016 21:37
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Izzhov posted:Musical theater was by far the hardest category for this. I was also thinking, like, Les Miserables, but I didn't want to put anything for a medium that wasn't originally in that medium. musical theater pretty much has no artistic merit (though some of its components might possibly on rare occasions) kind of like comics, but worse. so OP musical theatre is as low as media goes
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Sep 30, 2016 21:39
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ArbitraryC posted:I think comics/manga can be good for psychological horror like junji ito. Movies and games are too reliant on jumpscares and unnerving atmospheres that make you worried there's gonna be a jumpscare, comics can't pull that poo poo and can only really be conceptually creepy or scary with the narrative itself. I think the added visual elements can give it a leg up over books in this regard, but admittedly sometimes you just get over the top gore for shock value like crossed. It can be done well though. The manga "Mail" had some ersatz jump-scares, accomplished by building up tension and then placing the scary pay-off image in the first panel on the next page after a flip.
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Sep 30, 2016 21:58
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Always liked Ravel's Bolero as a kid.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:01
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:musical theater pretty much has no artistic merit (though some of its components might possibly on rare occasions) wrong
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Sep 30, 2016 22:02
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Troposphere posted:wrong What is a musical that has artistic merit and is not aimed at children? Asking for a friend
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Sep 30, 2016 22:04
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Troposphere posted:wrong on which count if it's that there's something worse than musical theatre i'd probably grudgingly agree but if you can think of a jukebox musical with any merit other than fleecing tourists out of their holiday dollars on broadway i'd be glad to hear about it
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Sep 30, 2016 22:04
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Izzhov posted:What is a musical that has artistic merit and is not aimed at children? Asking for a friend into the woods sweeney todd scratch that any sondheim really hamilton elisabeth ...tanz der vampire 
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Sep 30, 2016 22:13
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Izzhov posted:This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with: Hopelessly subjective, but still an interesting idea. The (in some sense) best examples from a medium may appeal to many who are generally uninterested in it. Perhaps more likely with genres than formats though. Also perhaps the works approaching art are less accessible and require more knowledge of the medium to appreciate.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:14
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Saint Isaias Boner posted:im not going to get into that much but the idea that the book of mormon could be considered to have any artistic merit makes me doubt the rest of your list What about the artistic merit of satire?
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Sep 30, 2016 22:16
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"Slaine: The horned god" is pretty neat. Amazing art, and an utterly weird plot progression. Haven't read any other Slaine, and from what I hear I would only be disappointed.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:17
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Helical Nightmares posted:What about the artistic merit of satire? "Too many cooks" is art.
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Sep 30, 2016 22:18
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Helical Nightmares posted:What about the artistic merit of satire? i don't think a recurring theme of scrotal maggots really qualifies i felt like a fell through a hole in the world when the entire audience gave that shitpiece three standing ovations
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Sep 30, 2016 22:20
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if the show was designed to cause me in particular to experience complete alienation from the population of London then yes it's a work of art
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Sep 30, 2016 22:21
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Izzhov posted:This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with: good grief
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Sep 30, 2016 23:34
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Crossed looks like someone's guro porn Oh it's made by garth ennis Are the pages sticky with the artists dried cumstains
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Sep 30, 2016 23:56
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Tiberius Christ posted:Crossed looks like someone's guro porn Only a few parts of "The Fatal Englishman" which is about, stop me if you've heard this one, how the SAS are a bunch of total hardcore badasses that every other elite special forces unit wishes they could be and all the gangsters and hitmen and superheroes are scared of them. Which is like twenty pages tops. I think that guy from Wish You Were Here spent more time loving that poor nun.
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Oct 1, 2016 00:12
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Putty posted:this gives me an idea brb Please hurry. This thread being stickied means that it should have at least one good post in it, possibly.
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Oct 1, 2016 00:24
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has anyone read black holes yet
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Oct 1, 2016 00:25
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Ork of Fiction posted:Please hurry. This thread being stickied means that it should have at least one good post in it, possibly. i was gonna do Garfielf without Garfielf but i got no time so watych the original https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGbhJjXl9Rk
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Oct 1, 2016 00:42
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Izzhov posted:Musical theater was by far the hardest category for this. I was also thinking, like, Les Miserables, but I didn't want to put anything for a medium that wasn't originally in that medium. Now that you mention this is legitimately difficult to think of a musical that isn't based on a book, film or previous broadway show. I haven't seen a lot though. ...Grease? Avenue Q, Book of Mormon. Uh, 1776 maybe
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Oct 1, 2016 01:54
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i saw Spiderman on Broadway and have many questions i know they revise these things during their runs but why were there so many shoes
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Oct 1, 2016 02:13
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Izzhov posted:This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with: Go to hell
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Oct 1, 2016 02:23
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No, reality TV is the lowest form of media
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Oct 1, 2016 02:31
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Stop listening to dumb and bad Broadway and listen to cool and good Opera
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Oct 1, 2016 02:38
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Trojan.exe posted:No, reality TV is the lowest form of media Fair point.
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Oct 1, 2016 02:47
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historically speaking the lowest form of media has always been the one women and poor people enjoy the most, not sure what that would be these days
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Oct 1, 2016 02:53
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Tom Gorman posted:Now that you mention this is legitimately difficult to think of a musical that isn't based on a book, film or previous broadway show. miss saigon chess rent(vaguely based off la boheme I guess) tick tick boom elisabeth das musical company, a funny thing happened on the way to the forum, almost all sondheim musicals these are just off the top of my head. expand ur musical surroundings my friend
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Oct 1, 2016 02:54
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Hector Beerlioz posted:Stop listening to dumb and bad Broadway and listen to cool and good Opera why not both
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Oct 1, 2016 02:55
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Tom Gorman posted:Now that you mention this is legitimately difficult to think of a musical that isn't based on a book, film or previous broadway show. 1776 owns and is the only musical I can think of that doesn't end on a big bombastic reprise but instead a somber tolling of a bell while america is created I mean lmao
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Oct 1, 2016 03:03
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Izzhov posted:This thread inspired me to come up with one example of a good work with artistic value from as many different kinds of media I can think of. To make it more challenging for myself, I also gave myself the following restrictions: the work has to be finished, it can't be something mentioned previously in this thread, and it can't be something aimed at children. This is what I came up with:  Homestuck would've been better than that
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Oct 1, 2016 03:11
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Troposphere posted:miss saigon Miss Saigon is Madame Butterfly with a different setting. A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum, like lots of sondheim is "inspired by" something rather than "based on" something so it's slippery for that criteria except for Company, which is based on a series of one acts by George Furth, which I have not read but just googled. Never saw or the other things except Rent so you've got me there. I'm a broadway scrub. Also thinking of Madame Butterfly and the above post reminds me that opera is certainly musical theater and thus the entire argument must be re-evaluated unless someone clarified already. I do not know the semantics involving classification but it makes sense to me. Mr. Meagles fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Oct 1, 2016 |
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Oct 1, 2016 03:20
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Media based on media is worse. Comic book movies. Comic book video games. Books adapted from film. It's referential garbage that doesn't have the decency to at least be innovative.
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Oct 1, 2016 03:27
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After brief research, still confused but ok. Sondheim said, "I really think that when something plays Broadway it's a musical, and when it plays in an opera house it's opera. That's it. It's the terrain, the countryside, the expectations of the audience that make it one thing or another." If that's the criteria
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