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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

“Nintendo” Land (it’s actually just Mario) is also only okay at best too.

Florida is getting a second ride though, right?

Aphrodite fucked around with this message at 18:55 on May 31, 2023

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Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

Florida is getting the Yoshi ride that Japan has and also the Donkey Kong coaster. Not for nothing but I'm also a firm believer that the Poseidon's Fury area is becoming Zelda.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH

SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

"How to Train Your Dragon" land - yes I know the movies were successful hits, but they don't have wide appeal and have been lost in the huge sea of other "acceptable" animated films. I really hate that they went through with this one.

I have never been to a Universal park ever (I consider myself a blind Disney loyalist although I did go to Knott's in CA when it was independently run by the Knott family heirs) but I would go to one for HTTYD.

I get the feeling you underestimate it's popularity, it does well globally and domestically it does have it's devoted hardcores, and the former is important since it can be put all over the world. I've seen a HTTYD character breakfast packing kids to a restaurant of a Macau casino before. It would be a popular addition to Singapore where they're competing with Genting and other regionals operators.

Tim Whatley posted:

Florida is getting the Yoshi ride that Japan has and also the Donkey Kong coaster.

The safety spiel better be delivered in the cadence of the DK Rap.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 19:08 on May 31, 2023

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.
Wizard Paris seems like the clear dud of the Epic Universe lands. Boy, I can't wait to see such iconic locations as, um.... or buy the inventive products from its famous shops like... y'know... and go on adventures with my favorite characters, Why Is Eddie Redmayne Even In These Any More and Oh God It's Ezra Miller Again, I hope they stop Thank gently caress They Recasted Johnny Depp!

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
On the one hand I don't care about another Harry Potter land.

On the other hand I do care about Mads Mikkelsen and would love to see a Mads Mikkelsen theme park attraction.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

CapnAndy posted:

Wizard Paris seems like the clear dud of the Epic Universe lands. Boy, I can't wait to see such iconic locations as, um.... or buy the inventive products from its famous shops like... y'know... and go on adventures with my favorite characters, Why Is Eddie Redmayne Even In These Any More and Oh God It's Ezra Miller Again, I hope they stop Thank gently caress They Recasted Johnny Depp!
It really does seem like a very big "okay but why tho?" kind of land. Just... why? Are you afraid that Harry Potter fans with Park-to-Park tickets just won't bother to head over there?

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Tim Whatley posted:

Florida is getting the Yoshi ride that Japan has and also the Donkey Kong coaster. Not for nothing but I'm also a firm believer that the Poseidon's Fury area is becoming Zelda.

Here’s my big issue with a Zelda land: what’s the ride? I’m not saying it wouldn’t be cool to build Hyrule Castle but I feel like a Potter-esque screen ride wouldn’t be near as much a slam dunk as a Mario Kart ride or a DK minecart coaster

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The Mario Kart ride is a screen ride.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy
A Zelda land with a walkthrough temple attraction and a ride would be awesome. HHN shows us that they could do amazing year round walkthrough attractions if they wanted to. I’d love to see them apply that formula to a temple that simulated “solving”.

As far as a ride… if they can make a simulator out of The Tonight Show then anything is possible.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Arquinsiel posted:

It really does seem like a very big "okay but why tho?" kind of land. Just... why? Are you afraid that Harry Potter fans with Park-to-Park tickets just won't bother to head over there?
"Look, we paid for the IP, we're gonna use the IP."

DC Murderverse posted:

Here’s my big issue with a Zelda land: what’s the ride? I’m not saying it wouldn’t be cool to build Hyrule Castle but I feel like a Potter-esque screen ride wouldn’t be near as much a slam dunk as a Mario Kart ride or a DK minecart coaster
Trackless ride, you're in a Guardian during that time Ganon invaded and they worked properly, move all around blasting away Bokolins and poo poo while Link and Zelda make periodic appearances to help out, in the end your laser beam distracts Ganon at just the right time for them to kill him.

Boom, print it, write the check.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

It’s Soarin’ over Hyrule but you run out of stamina and meteor at the end.

SweetMercifulCrap!
Jan 28, 2012
Lipstick Apathy

Aphrodite posted:

It’s Soarin’ over Hyrule but you run out of stamina and meteor at the end.

Annnnd you're riding on a penis rocket

Fartington Butts
Jan 21, 2007


Majora’s Mask moon the size of Spaceship Earth.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Whew they almost kept everything Nintendo in one area

Boxman
Sep 27, 2004

Big fan of :frog:


CapnAndy posted:

"Look, we paid for the IP, we're gonna use the IP."

Trackless ride, you're in a Guardian during that time Ganon invaded and they worked properly, move all around blasting away Bokolins and poo poo while Link and Zelda make periodic appearances to help out, in the end your laser beam distracts Ganon at just the right time for them to kill him.

Boom, print it, write the check.

They could render a few versions of the ride in different art styles. OoT, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, BotW, the adorable style from the Link's Awakening Remake.

Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

There's a few leaked patent shots out there which are probably for the proposed Zelda ride, which is why I think it's coming. It would be a boat ride that at one point goes over a waterfall, but the ride system catches you and you start to fly, probably like Link's glider, and goes back to a boat ride for unload.



Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
The stick figure passangers don't look happy :ohdear:

couldcareless
Feb 8, 2009

Spheal used Swagger!
I want the Link on screen to interact with the riders with a series of grunts and shouts.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
Navi does the safety announcements.

"Hey! Listen! Keep your arms and legs inside the boat!"

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


If any game needs to be a free wheeling meowwolf wandering experience it's Zelda and I guess myst

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Upsidads posted:

If any game needs to be a free wheeling meowwolf wandering experience it's Zelda and I guess myst
Yeah, that'd be neat too.

Also if some smart guy could figure out how to scale up escape room style puzzles to theme park land size without it devolving into everyone standing in line to solve the puzzle which they know about and know the solution to because there's a line of people waiting and you can watch the guy ahead of you do it, a Zelda land would be the place to do that. Mysteries and puzzles and if you solve them all, you get to pull the Master Sword or something I don't know.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Not exactly scaled up or fancy, probably more of a side feature of a Zelda land, but maybe something like the Datapad in Galaxy's Edge where you use your device to solve puzzles and interact with the landscape

Sivart13
May 18, 2003
I have neglected to come up with a clever title
i like how y'all are dreaming big dreams but if this thing opens it's just gonna be the same as Mario but this little guy is gonna be an Octorok instead of a Goomba

and people will still eat it up no crumbs left

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skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

I don't know if it's been discussed in the last few days, but the details on the Disney Dining Plan came out, and I think they missed the mark on it. I'm not sure if they did it on purpose or not though. I've never been a fan of it. We used it 1 trip and I didn't like the feeling of having to "maximize value" of the DDP, and I felt like our entire vacation was planned around eating at restaurants. I know some people love it, but it's not for us. One of the biggest things I've heard is people love having everything taken care of/paid for before they get there. That's kinda true, but DDP doesn't include gratuities, so that's always been extra. Some folks like to load gift cards with the amount they would have spent on the DDP and use those for dining. Generally they have money left over, the mouse wouldn't sell something it won't make a profit on.

Highlights:
- No more Deluxe plan. Only Quick Service or Standard Plan available.
- Only 1 snack credit per day now
- Pricing has gone up considerably
- plans do include specialty beverages and alcohol.

Adult pricing on the standard plan is 94.28 a night.

DFB has a good rundown https://www.disneyfoodblog.com/disney-dining-plan-faq/

WDW info
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/guest-services/disney-dining-plan/

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

skipdogg posted:

I don't know if it's been discussed in the last few days, but the details on the Disney Dining Plan came out, and I think they missed the mark on it. I'm not sure if they did it on purpose or not though. I've never been a fan of it. We used it 1 trip and I didn't like the feeling of having to "maximize value" of the DDP, and I felt like our entire vacation was planned around eating at restaurants. I know some people love it, but it's not for us. One of the biggest things I've heard is people love having everything taken care of/paid for before they get there. That's kinda true, but DDP doesn't include gratuities, so that's always been extra. Some folks like to load gift cards with the amount they would have spent on the DDP and use those for dining. Generally they have money left over, the mouse wouldn't sell something it won't make a profit on.
I used it in 2019 when they were running a discounted offer, and even at a price where I was absolutely coming out ahead on everything I ate, my experience was exactly the same as yours. You gotta eat at a sit down place every night, everything's gotta be pre-planned because you need reservations, and even though I'd got it at a price where I didn't have to order the loving steak every night to come ahead, all that rich food every single night ended up making me feel sick. I 100% agree that if you want that "it's all paid for" sensation, load what you would've paid for the DDP on a pre-paid card and when you come back home, transfer the remaining money back into your bank account, because you're going to have money left over.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
On our last trip we got a $504 gift card for food as part of the package deal so we did some maths based on the current menus and what we'd previously eaten and though it'd probably last us maybe ten days. We booked a few sit-down places because I'm slightly less picky now than I used to be and having the menus in front of me helped find places I could eat ahead of time and that card was gone by the end of day six. After that it was back to burgers whenever, or pizza at the hotel food counter if we weren't hungry in the parks.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

500 will last one person 10 days maybe.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!

Zero One posted:

I met a guy last week who I could have asked. He's a Coordinator for Rise and might know. Too bad you didn't ask a few days ago. Not sure when I'll see him next. But if I remember I'll try to find out.

Following up on this. My coordinator friend confirmed that the voices are controlled by hand gestures with the gloves. He also said that each gesture will give a few different line readings so there are less chances guests will hear them say the same thing twice. Also, each costume has slightly different lines too. That way you won't hear the Stormtroopers repeating each other.

Zero One
Dec 30, 2004

HAIL TO THE VICTORS!
Quote is not edit

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Thanks for the follow up! I would love to know what kind of training is involved for that to become second nature.

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

Aphrodite posted:

500 will last one person 10 days maybe.
Yeah, we drastically under-estimated the cost differential between ordering real food and just grabbing corndog nuggets whenever.

CapnAndy
Feb 27, 2004

Some teeth long for ripping, gleaming wet from black dog gums. So you keep your eyes closed at the end. You don't want to see such a mouth up close. before the bite, before its oblivion in the goring of your soft parts, the speckled lips will curl back in a whinny of excitement. You just know it.

Arquinsiel posted:

Yeah, we drastically under-estimated the cost differential between ordering real food and just grabbing corndog nuggets whenever.
The really nice thing about WDW is that not only are all the menus online, but they've got their prices listed. You can go through all the restaurants, say "oh this one looks nice", and then be able to actually take it steps further and figure out both if there's anything on the menu you'd like to eat, and what it'll cost. Pretty great to get the "like gently caress I'm paying $40 for that" conversation out of the way before you ever make the reservation.

Fluffy Bunnies
Jan 10, 2009

the dining plan was pointless for me as a vegetarian and is a laugh as a diabetic. I see people who can get value out of it but man, they are not me at all.

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

Arquinsiel posted:

On our last trip we got a $504 gift card for food as part of the package deal so we did some maths based on the current menus and what we'd previously eaten and though it'd probably last us maybe ten days. We booked a few sit-down places because I'm slightly less picky now than I used to be and having the menus in front of me helped find places I could eat ahead of time and that card was gone by the end of day six. After that it was back to burgers whenever, or pizza at the hotel food counter if we weren't hungry in the parks.

Was that the dining card promo they ran earlier this year? How did that work? I ask because my upcoming trip is under that promo too. The website says you get an email with the card once you check in. Did you have any problems getting card or using it?

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady
It was back in 2022, but we booked sometime in 2021. It was basically attached to the MDE app and we just showed them a barcode when we were ready to pay. We had to go to Disney Springs to get the generic $200 gift card though. Of course since we were there we instantly spent it anyway :shrug:

CapnAndy posted:

The really nice thing about WDW is that not only are all the menus online, but they've got their prices listed. You can go through all the restaurants, say "oh this one looks nice", and then be able to actually take it steps further and figure out both if there's anything on the menu you'd like to eat, and what it'll cost. Pretty great to get the "like gently caress I'm paying $40 for that" conversation out of the way before you ever make the reservation.
It's one thing to sit there two months out and think you might like a particular thing at a particular time, but it's a very different thing when you don't have a reservation and you're not really that hungry at all. Due to Disney portion sizes on previous trips there were entire days where we forgot to have breakfast, ate some random backpack snacks through the day, and then just got a mac and cheese at like 11PM. Since we'd booked proper meals last time we ended up eating way more than that at dinner, but also then eating even less before dinner. If we were doing proper full Disney food we'd have pissed the card away in maybe three days, but we also decided to be cheeky and get the fountain refill cups on day 1 for "lenght of stay" which was three weeks so that was fake money well spent.

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Aphrodite posted:

The Mario Kart ride is a screen ride.

Yeah but it works because you’re in a vehicle and Mario Kart is all about driving, it’s very easy to match those concepts. Same with like, the Potter rides and Avatar, where both took an iconic form of motion and made it work. Zelda is exploration first and its most iconic form of motion is a horse. if you could get a ride that simulate horse-riding that might be dope. Alternately they could go full TotK and have people design their own vehicles like Test Track

SweetMercifulCrap! posted:

A Zelda land with a walkthrough temple attraction and a ride would be awesome. HHN shows us that they could do amazing year round walkthrough attractions if they wanted to. I’d love to see them apply that formula to a temple that simulated “solving”.

As far as a ride… if they can make a simulator out of The Tonight Show then anything is possible.

Any ride where Jimmy Fallon is involved is doomed from conception so that’s a bad comparison.

Edit:

CapnAndy posted:

Yeah, that'd be neat too.

Also if some smart guy could figure out how to scale up escape room style puzzles to theme park land size without it devolving into everyone standing in line to solve the puzzle which they know about and know the solution to because there's a line of people waiting and you can watch the guy ahead of you do it, a Zelda land would be the place to do that. Mysteries and puzzles and if you solve them all, you get to pull the Master Sword or something I don't know.

Yeah this is the dream, just figure out a way to build a life-sized dungeon/shrine.

DC Murderverse fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 2, 2023

Jose Valasquez
Apr 8, 2005

DC Murderverse posted:

if you could get a ride that simulate horse-riding that might be dope.

Mix Tron and Avatar Flight of Passage, rollercoaster through Hyrule where you're mounted on a horse that you can feel breathing and bucking

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Simulation of link ragdolling after trying to shield surf a rocket

DC Murderverse
Nov 10, 2016

"Tell that to Zod's snapped neck!"

Make a space-shot themed after BotW’s bomb-launching

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Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Fallon is part of the Universal studio tour. But that’s an addition.

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