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Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Impermanent posted:

the funniest part of this is that the antifa working group passed by a narrow margin and now the side that pushed it through is accusing everyone who tried to get it to fail of being secretly a fascist sympathizer. Given that it's DSA, there's probably a 50 percent chance that they're right, but its still very funny.

imo the real funniest part is that probably a non-zero number of the people who did try to get it passed are cops

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
and succzone jumped up my rear end when i said the DSA is useless lmao

e: and looking in the thread some guy pretending to be disabled is yelling at the convention to be absolutely quiet because any side conversation gives him sensory overload lmao

Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Aug 4, 2019

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
https://twitter.com/Osama_BongLaden/status/1157866307578212352

better parody could not be written

Grevling
Dec 18, 2016

We're doomed.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I'm more amazed that people are giving their pronouns in real life, even if they're cisgendered.

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I'm more amazed that people are giving their pronouns in real life, even if they're cisgendered.


That’s been a thing for a while now

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

i'm not amazed at all that brainmelt has been a long time coming now

A Big Fuckin Hornet
Nov 1, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Grevling posted:

We're doomed.

Frog Act
Feb 10, 2012




this is why people need to read theory, so they can understand and react when wreckers attempt to introduce highly individuated Liberal rhetoric into the basic framework of revolutionary aspirations

they’re not real civil libertarians or socialists because they don’t understand that destroying those things emanates from actual materialist ideology. it’s much easier to basically continue acting in the same BEB framework as they always have because approaching politics any other way isn’t part of the US political imagination

this kinda discourse poisons everything by reducing it to the same crass, atomized, ephemeral scrutinizing of immaterial social constructs, and it is designed to trick people into ignoring the material realities that sustain them

Frog Act fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Aug 4, 2019

Pablo Nergigante
Apr 16, 2002

Unfortunately that video is being spread around by all the wrong people (IMC, Jesse Singal, Stonetoss, etc.)

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

GalacticAcid posted:

That’s been a thing for a while now

Cisgendered people giving their pronouns just seems patronizing to me.

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Cisgendered people giving their pronouns just seems patronizing to me.

it's something many trans people ask of cis people in the hope that it becomes common practice and contributes to mitigating unintentional misgendering. i don't care for it that much but it's not something they're doing unprompted.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pablo Nergigante posted:

Unfortunately that video is being spread around by all the wrong people (IMC, Jesse Singal, Stonetoss, etc.)

yeah the left making a parody of itself is going to be taken advantage of by the right

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN
Some years ago my then union went on strike and during the loud and contentious meetings the people running the meetings kept asking us that instead of clapping our hands or shouting that we all silently do jazz hands to signal support.

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Helsing posted:

Some years ago my then union went on strike and during the loud and contentious meetings the people running the meetings kept asking us that instead of clapping our hands or shouting that we all silently do jazz hands to signal support.

Tbf that might've been due to the fact that applause can easily drown out a speaker and waste time

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation regarding the anti fascist working group. I'm not sure people would have handled DSA voting down an anti-fascist resolution well

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Helsing posted:

Some years ago my then union went on strike and during the loud and contentious meetings the people running the meetings kept asking us that instead of clapping our hands or shouting that we all silently do jazz hands to signal support.

breaking for applause every time people hear something they like slows meetings to a crawl which is why it's a good thing to ask people to hold.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
goon project: form a vanguard party

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

i'll make the BEBsite

jarofpiss
May 16, 2009

Karl Barks posted:

seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation regarding the anti fascist working group. I'm not sure people would have handled DSA voting down an anti-fascist resolution well

dsa being so multi-tendency and large means that everyone thinks the purpose of the org is something different. while i think every dsa member should be anti-fascist and supportive of anti-fascist work i just don't see how that kind of grey area stuff is in the realm of what our 501c4 non-profit political org should be engaged in. i think it's probably one of the areas other groups are much better equipped to handle and i can only see it opening up the org to more infiltration/provocateur activity. i guess we'll see what actually gets built on that working group but hopefully they're smart about it.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Not sure how much building you can do when you're only budgeted for 894 dollars. I'm pretty sure I've been to church pot lucks that involved more money.

420 Gank Mid
Dec 26, 2008

WARNING: This poster is a huge bitch!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

goon project: form a vanguard party

reality: 3 goons shot by secret service while ziplining onto capitol hill

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
i really adore that they have to call for "personal privilege" before they're allowed to speak. it's just like congress

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

Karl Barks posted:

seems like a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation regarding the anti fascist working group. I'm not sure people would have handled DSA voting down an anti-fascist resolution well

antifa should be doing crimes, forming an official 501(c)(4) to do crimes

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

420 Gank Mid posted:

reality: 3 goons shot by secret service while ziplining onto capitol hill

The attack is still successful since the targets were hit by near perfect orbs going down an 80° angle

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

antifa should be doing crimes, forming an official 501(c)(4) to do crimes

tbf the IRS does allow for weapons to be claimed as rebates if they're a work related expense

KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


the dsa will not be the vanguard of the revolution, sorry

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Raskolnikov38 posted:

tbf the IRS does allow for weapons to be claimed as rebates if they're a work related expense

Forming a 501c for the 49th worker's rifles as we speak

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

antifa should be doing crimes, forming an official 501(c)(4) to do crimes

hosed up opinion, but not surprised its yours

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
the DSA antifa caucus better watch out, Delaney's plan for shooter's liability insurance might blow a hole in the budget

Karl Barks
Jan 21, 1981

so much ideology

https://twitter.com/JohnDelaney/status/1158054934765539330

atelier morgan
Mar 11, 2003

super-scientific, ultra-gay

Lipstick Apathy

CYBEReris posted:

it's something many trans people ask of cis people in the hope that it becomes common practice and contributes to mitigating unintentional misgendering. i don't care for it that much but it's not something they're doing unprompted.

this, as a trans person: cis folks please tell people your pronouns when doing presentations or whatever

it means when a trans person does so in the same circumstances its normalized

galenanorth
May 19, 2016

Trans people make up only 1 in 1000 to 3% of the U.S. population and I think that the better solution is for people to have greater respect and understanding for what isn't normal than to have to accommodate. It's like asking for more representation of something like cystic fibrosis in fiction when the 1 in 3000 margin makes it understandable that it's not represented. Only 1 in 88 people have autism as well and I think that it verges near a point where there are some occupations where a person can't do it without accommodations that are so cumbersome to everybody else that the person shouldn't have that job, such as asking an entire national political convention to not have side-chatter.

galenanorth fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Aug 5, 2019

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
yeah not to sound transphobic or whatever but i dont think it's ever going to be normalized to announce your pronouns. i DO think it's normal to correct people but maybe that's because I was briefly pretty feminine looking as a pre teen thanks to my luscious auburn locks

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Whatever the case may be, if you're not neurotypical and get sensory overload in crowds then you should accept that you don't belong at any convention.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Whatever the case may be, if you're not neurotypical and get sensory overload in crowds then you should accept that you don't belong at any convention.

imagine, like, gunfire

i went on an easy hike with a local antifa group and one person came strapped, in combat boots. they collapsed three miles in and had to be goaded for the rest of it, cutting the whole event maybe 5 miles short. they're the anime appraiser tweet irl

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Lol. I have arches high enough to build a bridge with and I can still hike longer than that (it just really loving sucks and hurts a bunch, but that's what the excedrin is for). Must have worn boots that weren't broken in, I think a lot of people dont realize that you CANNOT use boots until you break them in for more than like house shoes or office work. even a few miles walking will give you major rear end blisters

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

when he got new boots, my drill sergeant from basic would soak them for an hour in a bucket of water and then do wind-sprints until he was exhausted. it's a good method

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

so how many state bills outlawing Antifa are going to cite the Dayton shooter

Larry Parrish posted:

Lol. I have arches high enough to build a bridge with and I can still hike longer than that (it just really loving sucks and hurts a bunch, but that's what the excedrin is for). Must have worn boots that weren't broken in, I think a lot of people dont realize that you CANNOT use boots until you break them in for more than like house shoes or office work. even a few miles walking will give you major rear end blisters

my strategy of "forget I need to break in new boots, and go through a week of terrible pain and hosed up feet" has yet to fail me

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Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
since im not a dumbass i just took my MTI's advice and wear two or even three pairs of boot socks. not long socks, boot socks, the kind with extra cushion on the bottom. you will have the worlds sweatiest feet but it stops you from blistering. still hurts more than usual for about a week though. its true that them being wet helps though. i wear some combat boots for my job and i buy the same cheap lovely pair annually just before winter starts for that reason, tromping through puddles and poo poo works like the soak and sprint thing. just takes like two or three days instead of one

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