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Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Gervasius posted:

No, I mean literally exploded. Fill up ATM with propane, light it up, it blows up and if you're lucky "capsule" with cash gets ejected. Pick up the capsule, open it comfortably in your own garage. If you gently caress up and put too much gas you remove the front of the building with it. And if you gently caress it up with timing, it will blow up in your face. Aftermath looks usually like this, but it can get messier.



Wow, that's...wow. I didn't know that was a strategy. Thanks for the background.

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Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Discendo Vox posted:

Wow, that's...wow. I didn't know that was a strategy. Thanks for the background.

It's the next step in the arms race. If the money becomes too difficult to extract from the building without destroying the building, they will simply destroy the building.

Gervasius
Nov 2, 2010



Grimey Drawer
To be fair, I really couldn't give a poo poo either way. Money is insured, big stores are insured so it's not some big loss and I won't cry over banks and big retail chains losing money.

However, there is a lot of collateral damage, people's homes and small businesses without insurance being damaged so I cheer every time one of these idiots gets arrested.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


New year has been and gone, and the novelty of the store has truly worn off it seems because we’ve gone right back to being dead as gently caress. Couple that with being told I’m probably not getting an immediate pay rise to match my manager responsibilities because I’ve only been here 5 months (and been pushed to manager in that time) and the boss using my second as a mouthpiece so he can say he hasn’t told me to start cutting shifts and the exit is looking real appealing right now.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I remember one time being told that fast food places slow down after new years because everyone makes resolutions to lose weight, so they stop eating out for a few weeks before giving up on it.


They're a god drat liar and I hate them.

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
They are a liar, fast food places don’t slow down till about mid feb when everyone realizes taxes are due. Happy Valentines Day!

apophenium
Apr 14, 2009

Cry 'Mayhem!' and let slip the dogs of Wardlow.
Got fired yesterday from the chain of liquor stores I helped establish and worked at for three and a half years. I feel like it was a cost-cutting thing but the owner claimed I was "bad for morale," citing an incident where I implored a coworker not to overwork herself.

I gave up on getting my Bachelor's degree to really devote myself to this business and it's sad it ended like this. Hoping to pivot out of the liquor industry but all my connections are within it. We'll see where it goes.

Happy New Year! :gbsmith:

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

apophenium posted:

Got fired yesterday from the chain of liquor stores I helped establish and worked at for three and a half years. I feel like it was a cost-cutting thing but the owner claimed I was "bad for morale," citing an incident where I implored a coworker not to overwork herself.

Oof, that's rough. I got a similar talking to, but not firing some years back because I encouraged my coworkers to actually call in sick when they were sick, rather than dragging themselves to work, being miserable and spreading whatever they had to the rest of us.

Sounds like a place you'r best rid of.

Also if you've worked in liquor sales, I'd say that the sales part means you can pivot to pretty much any other sales-related position, experience handling customers and complaints is more important than in-depth knowledge of a specific type of product, and if you've been instrumental to establishing the stores, you've probably also done purchasing work, logistics work, etc. Fluff that CV up shamelessly.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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The system hosed up last night and ordered way too much work for one of our pack lines. Enough that my boss openly sent me a message telling me to just "let it burn". As if that isn't my normal modus operandi: I just show up to get paid, if work gets done around me it just enough to keep my easy rear end job.

Then the Amazon network choked. It didn't fully die, just parts of it did. Mainly the parts involving connecting packages to their shipping labels. The thing is the network wasn't entirely down so there was some work getting out, and the problem solvers can manually bridge the connection and manually run shipping labels. It's slow but just got to stand down the packers while they do their job.

What does management do? Try to keep the packers working full blast as long as possible before its hopeless and tell the problem solvers to lump everything together/not solve any of it. So None of the work goes out and all of it is stuck in a weird limbo that makes the system auto-cancel everything so all the packages have to be ripped open, contents sent back to inventory to be reprocessed and such. Basically create the biggest mess possible.

My favorite part is the back half assistant manager being here for overtime. I hear my manager call out over the radio for him to go to the over-loaded line and take off 50 totes. Not turn the totes so they're packed tighter, not run across the building. Go over to where the line comes down to where it can be reached and take 50 of the yellow buckets of work off. It was a very clear instruction.

What does he do? Run over across the building to my station and stand where the line comes off of my sorter and turns the totes sideways so they're traveling down the thin way instead of the long way. Makes more room on the line, yes, but it also makes the line way, way more likely to jam and wasn't what you were told to do dingus. Also then comes down the ladder and rants to me about how we should have had someone up there earlier, etc. etc. etc.

Dude, it's not your shift and not how we do things on your shift and not what you were instructed to do.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
lol
lmfao

Cheyenne Post Offices Close Down After Amazon Dumps 1,000+ Packages Off & Allegedly Refuses To Deliver

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The latest winter storm that blasted the U.S. didn’t just foul up the nation’s airlines. It also appears to have affected package deliveries in states like Wyoming.

Several post offices in Cheyenne were closed Tuesday, leaving the only facility open to the public the Converse Avenue location near Dell Range Boulevard. The lines at the facility were more than an hour long Tuesday, with at least 30 people in line at any given time, with steady traffic all day.

The Amazon Effect

More than one postal worker told Cowboy State Daily the reason for the other post offices being closed was an unusually large number of packages dropped off by Amazon over the weekend.

“There were 110 pallets with an average of 120 packages each,” one postal worker said. He declined to be identified.

What’s more, Amazon drivers are not willing to deliver packages in Cheyenne after the recent blizzard until May 1, the postal worker said.

Cowboy State Daily tried to reach the Cheyenne Post Master as well, but no one would answer the phone at the Converse Avenue location. When visiting that location in person, Cowboy State Daily was told by a postal worker that requests for information have to be run through Wyoming’s official media person.

The worker also said it was unlikely anyone would explain the closures, and that the public didn’t need to know about the details — just that the closures were required for operational efficiency.

Lots Of Packages Common During Holidays

A spokesperson for the U.S. Postal Service in Wyoming confirmed that locations at FE Warren Base, Capitol Station Downtown and the Airport Station were all closed Tuesday to assist with mail and package distribution and delivery.

“We had a large number of packages presented to the city for delivery over the weekend,” USPS spokesman James Boxrud told Cowboy State Daily. “This is not an unusual occurrence, as we normally receive larger package volumes during the holiday season.”

To accommodate the influx, Boxrud said employees were shifted to the main office from nearby post offices.

“Those offices are closed on Saturday,” Boxrud said. “And I imagine that many customers were not aware that Monday was a federal holiday.”

Boxrud added that the U.S. Postal Service apologizes and “pledges to do better.”

Drivers Avoiding Wyoming

Postal workers at two Wyoming post office locations said the large delivery was from Amazon. One of them added that he was told that after the big storm last week the delivery drivers don’t want to travel Cowboy State highways until May 1.

Boxrud would not comment, however, on where the deliveries originated from or whether Amazon drivers are refusing to deliver packages in Cheyenne or Wyoming until May 1.

“That’s not something we would do,” he told Cowboy State Daily, suggesting it’s up to Amazon’s media relations to confirm or deny that.

Amazon didn’t respond to Cowboy State Daily emails requesting more information about the situation.

Hiring Crunch A Statewide Issue

Boxrud did, however, mention ongoing hiring needs in both Cheyenne and Wyoming also contributed to the issue that forced the closure.

“Cheyenne Post Office has 20 job openings,” he told Cowboy State Daily. “And we have numerous positions available in all of Wyoming. We encourage all interested applicants to visit USPS.com/careers. These are great jobs that can quickly lead to career opportunities with full benefits, including paid annual and sick leave, holiday pay, health care, retirement, and other benefits.”

Applications are available online at usps.comcareers. The available jobs are updated weekly.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer

I know you used to live there. Is it the USPS, is it the issue that a lot of Wyoming is too expensive so no one takes the jobs, something else ?

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Duckman2008 posted:

I know you used to live there. Is it the USPS, is it the issue that a lot of Wyoming is too expensive so no one takes the jobs, something else ?

I was living in the middle part of the state, almost three hundred miles away from Cheyenne.

I think it's because people just don't know about those jobs. A lot of postal jobs seem to have very short opening periods and just close and have to get reopened if they're not filled. When I got mine in 2020, the window to apply was only a week long, same for the job I had near Pittsburgh.

I don't think Cheyenne itself is super expensive to live in yet. Because it's only two hours north of Denver and an hour north of Fort Collins, Colorado, which are much more expensive and the town's become a bedroom community for people willing to commute to Colorado for work. Or like a lot of Wyoming, it's turning into a haven for people with telecommuting jobs since the onset of the pandemic (they were already coming, it's just when the critical mass started) and poo poo's getting weird.

But the starting rate for a non-career job with USPS is much higher than most jobs you can get in Wyoming, and frankly anywhere in the country, that require nothing more than a pulse and four working limbs. Postal support employees that are hired as clerks at grade 6 are starting at $20.05 per hour, and there's a 2.3% cost of living raise coming every six months until the 2021-2024 contract with the American Postal Workers Union expires and gets renegotiated. Hours aren't guaranteed, but a busy office is going to have plenty of work and you'll be drowning in overtime in summer and peak season.

There's four postal unions: National Association of Letter Carriers (city carriers), National Rural Letter Carriers' Association, National Postal Mail Handlers Union (sorting plants), and American Postal Workers Union (clerks, maintenance, trucking, IT, communications). If any of you ever get any ideas, you can get an idea of what the pay is like on three of the four unions' websites (or see what it says on job announcements).

APWU Pay Information
NALC Pay tables
NPMHU Wage charts

Star Man fucked around with this message at 05:12 on Jan 5, 2023

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
I just had a lady get annoyed at me because we haven’t started selling loving hot cross buns yet. It’s the loving 5th of January. Whenever you see news articles lamenting that hot cross buns aren’t strictly limited to like the week of Easter or some poo poo this is why.

ellspurs
Sep 12, 2007
Kappa :o

The Lord Bude posted:

I just had a lady get annoyed at me because we haven’t started selling loving hot cross buns yet. It’s the loving 5th of January. Whenever you see news articles lamenting that hot cross buns aren’t strictly limited to like the week of Easter or some poo poo this is why.

And over in Britain people are in uproar because supermarkets swapped their Christmas chocolates for Easter eggs. I'm sure hot cross buns will be popping up soon.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
What the gently caress is a hit cross bun?

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



it is a Good Friday thing, it's a sweet bun filled with fruit chunks and spice and you put a cross of icing on top. and old folks eat that poo poo up like it is a gift from the gods

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
so it's loving Easter fruitcake, got it

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Not always icing, the ones you get from supermarkets will usually be just a pale cross of dough on top.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
It's amazing how I'm from one of the most right-wing states in the country, and how almost none of these religious things seem to ever have much of a presence. I can tell you all about fry sauce, green jello, and funeral potatoes being staples among Mormons. There are more Catholics than Mormons in Wyoming, but I know gently caress all about this because I was raised by extremely secular Methodists. I had to move to Pittsburgh to learn what a fish fry is and why it's a big deal in spring. It wasn't even apparent to me when I lived in Denver.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


In the UK it’s just part of this time of year. Even if you’re not religious a decent hot cross bun is still tasty. Not as tasty as a crème egg but still.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Hot cross buns are a British thing that is also part of Australian Easter tradition but must not have become a thing in the States I guess.



in the strictest traditional sense they are a fruit bun - essentially a bread roll but made like fruit loaf - the bread has sugar in it (this will confuse you guys in the states because you guys are gross and put sugar in most of your bread, here bread normally doesn’t have sugar in it) and dried fruits - cheaper ones will just be like raisins, better ones will have a mixture of raisins and currants and other similar fruits - and spices like cinnamon and cloves and a sticky glaze on top. It’s not a cake - the texture is definitely bread. They have a cross painted on the top which is typically just flour and water. They’re actually quite delicious, you cut them in half and toast them and have them for breakfast with butter and sometimes jam.

these days you also get variations - chocolate hot cross buns, salted caramel, etc the existence of which also drives a certain demographic of person absolutely batshit crazy.

When I was a kid they would start to appear a couple weeks before Easter, and then they’d dissapear, and over the years as the tradition became more commercialised and stores realised people go nuts for them, much like with Christmas stuff and other Easter things like Easter eggs they started appearing earlier and earlier to the point where now Easter basically starts as soon as Christmas is done, with the possible exception that some places will devote space to Australia Day things as well till Australia Day (which is in late January) - but there’s not as much scope to sell poo poo for Australia Day, it’s basically little novelty flags, as well as other poo poo with flags on it, typically picnic/day at the beach themed - eskies, hats, etc - so Easter crap it is.

So in any case now you have an endless commentary of old farts with newspaper columns frothing at the mouth about how Easter is becoming more commercialised and people are forgetting the meaning behind traditions and how sacreligious it is to see hot cross buns in January, and also Obese Karen Broodmothers Getting upset that they can’t get their special extra Calorie bread yet when it’s “already the 5th of January and [competitor] has them so why don’t we’

Last year we kept baking them for a week or so after Easter was done and you would have thought we’d killed someone, the fuss it caused.

and the funniest part is we sell the exact same goddamn sweet buns all loving year, just without the cross on them, and hardly anyone buys them or gives them a second thought, we’d be lucky to sell 4 packs a day - but as soon as you draw that tasteless flour paste cross on top you get a stampede of people and we sell hundreds or thousands of packs a day.

therobit
Aug 19, 2008

I've been tryin' to speak with you for a long time
I hear they used to be one a penny or two a penny. Has inflation hosed that all up?

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

You see Hot Cross buns in the South sometimes

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
Holidays are over, so no one gets any added hours. I was coming in an hour early every day since....November? Pre rush because we are so loving short staffed.

This week we got the notice no one gets added hours. No new hires, either! Hiring freeze!

So of course all my orders are now running late, because who knew that having me start at 9 when order pickups start at 8am means I lose an hour for delivery every day? And with everyone else starting at later times, early poo poo starts getting backlogged?

Don't come in early, but you are expected to stay late.


Oh, bonus points for the boss deciding we are having a quarterly meeting on a Saturday. At 10am. Because no one has anything to loving do on a Saturday. Why not 8am, get this poo poo over with!

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



therobit posted:

I hear they used to be one a penny or two a penny. Has inflation hosed that all up?

lmao

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Done with my overtime shift and now I've got all next week off. Everyone else took the week right after Christmas but I stayed because I far, far prefer to take Games Done Quick week off so I have something to watch. I'd love go traveling but that takes loving money. So my travel plans are "not at loving work".

Also after three years of training people, three years of trying to lead horses to water to let them drink, not drink, or think of ants and die...I fear some of our best and brightest might be escaping containment:

JackSplater
Nov 20, 2014

Metal Coat? It's already active?!

Alkydere posted:

So my travel plans are "not at loving work".

The best vacation plans, really.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Yeah any time I take a week off and people ask where I’m going I always say my sofa.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
I’m a huge fan of road trips but the past 3 years have frustrated me considerably in that regard so I’ve also ended up just sitting in front of a screen for a month 3 years in a row now.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
Staycation ftw

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Owner #2 posted a bunch of photos of stuff people didn't clean properly in the group chat at 10pm tonight with "If you can't do your jobs properly I'll find people who will." and good luck with that dude, the entire staff is miserable and everyone's getting their CVs updated while I'm having to deal with people who've applied for jobs that you've never gotten back to. I genuinely don't think they realise how dire the state of the store is. Meanwhile I'm just loading up on as many qualifications they'll pay for me to get (will hopefully have my personal alcohol license next week which a friend tells me has been worth multiple K's on a salary to them) before looking for my own exit.

I'm on £20k as an effective manager, if I was doing the poo poo I'm doing still at Mcdonalds I'd be on £26k by now.

njsykora fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jan 8, 2023

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Boss #2 is officially spiralling, he created a new WhatsApp group and added the whole store staff to it so we could all see him yelling at 2 people specifically. Going as far as posting CCTV clips of them goofing off. poo poo is getting so miserable that I’m actually considering going back to Mcdonalds.

Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer

njsykora posted:

Boss #2 is officially spiralling, he created a new WhatsApp group and added the whole store staff to it so we could all see him yelling at 2 people specifically. Going as far as posting CCTV clips of them goofing off. poo poo is getting so miserable that I’m actually considering going back to Mcdonalds.

Sounds like something that should be posted on TikTok or something to go viral.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I finally asked my boss for that extra day off. She agreed, just needs to go through hiring some new people as we're losing 2 next week and I can start having 3 day weekend :toot:

The loss of money will suck but hell, since I basically don't get my lunches covered anymore, if I get interrupted all 8 days in a pay period I'll only lose a single day of pay. After the poo poo food 4 less put me through, I can handle that. Sad thing is, I'll still make more money than I did back then.

Funktastic
Jul 23, 2013

I love that internet couponer people keep posting about a .49 sale our store doesn’t really have. We have markdowns on Christmas stuff happening that gets down that low but people are always shocked that literally everything in the store isn’t that price.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

Funktastic posted:

I love that internet couponer people keep posting about a .49 sale our store doesn’t really have. We have markdowns on Christmas stuff happening that gets down that low but people are always shocked that literally everything in the store isn’t that price.

We regularly get complaints about our actual prices not being the same as on third-party sites that just scrape our webshop for info and then update it maybe once a month when our actual prices may have changed since.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009
I love when people order something that was in a commercial like 4 months ago and they say "But the commercial said it was this price!"

Prices change. I went to look up the commercial to snip out the "Where available, prices vary by location. Prices subject to change" but holy poo poo, where in the world do people get what costs 4.39 here for 2.99?!

Also in the same vein of "sees a price is one thing, thinks it applies to more than it does": People who come through and go "I want to do the buy 2 burgers for 2 dollars". Got your receipt with the survey code, bud? You did read the words above "Buy one, get one for 2 dollars" right? Also the way you phrase it, you make it sound like you get 2 burgers for 2 bucks flat. Yeah dude, we totally have this thing where burgers that cost like 7-14 bucks by themselves, but if you buy 2, not only do you save 5-12 bucks on your first one, but the second one is free. Yeah, totally.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer
The only thing I hate more than the small print on our sale signs saying what items are actually on sale, are the customers who act like it's their first time in a store and if it says this brand of treats are on sale, then all of them are that one price. You know better rear end in a top hat, if you want to rip off the store, just shoplift because that doesn't waste my time.

Also love how when I come in early to work truck, I'm wearing a meme t-shirt, bandana, and headphones and people will still stop me to ask customer service questions in the few hours where the store is open as I'm there. Do I loving look like I want to help you?

Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.
My favorite is when people get mad that I don’t know where something is because it’s not my loving department. Like, I can point you in the general direction, but I’ve already got thousands of skus memorized by sight and that’s not even half the store.

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ErKeL
Jun 18, 2013

Coasterphreak posted:

My favorite is when people get mad that I don’t know where something is because it’s not my loving department. Like, I can point you in the general direction, but I’ve already got thousands of skus memorized by sight and that’s not even half the store.
I do a shift like once a week or less at the moment just for beer money as I've bailed from retail and last time I clocked in I got this old dude come up to roast me for changing the price of stuff and how it used to be cheaper. "What you're doing is illegal!"
Like mate I don't set the prices and I'm pretty confident it wouldn't be.


Also had another dude rip into me because he went up to buy something and it was $11 but the ticket said $12 because there was a price drop and it hadn't been marked yet.

My new pet peeve however are people demanding stock on poo poo that's sold and telling me the website says it's in stock, then showing me our competitor's website.

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