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rex rabidorum vires
Mar 26, 2007

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Hellsau posted:

Bundle it with 15000 gold and 10 million credits, Wargaming, and you've got my money.

Ughh....fffffffffffffff :shepspends: :suicide: :homebrew:

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Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
god damnit i missed a sale on a supposedly op Obj 252U? WTF man

gently caress you WG NA gently caress you

deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008

Hellsau posted:

Bundle it with 15000 gold and 10 million credits, Wargaming, and you've got my money.

I feel like they'd have to do something like this to get people to buy it. It's not a tank worth $90 by itself.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Agrajag posted:

god damnit i missed a sale on a supposedly op Obj 252U? WTF man

gently caress you WG NA gently caress you

It'll be on sale once a month for forever mate.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Hellsau posted:

It'll be on sale once a month for forever mate.

well, it was, but now he's missed and WG knows

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Prav posted:

well, it was, but now he's missed and WG knows

I mean at least he didn't miss that Type 59 sale last month, there's no way they're going to put that on sale again.

Cartoon
Jun 20, 2008

poop
Allow me to introduce the Ikv 103. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:S14_Ikv_103 Garbage fire of a tank. To ace this horrendous piece of poo poo you need ~ five damage dealing shots. Getting five damage dealing shots well.... It only fires HEAT. It is a low accuracy howitzer. You can't snipe because even if you miraculously hit something the chances of the HEAT actually dealing damage are a coin flip at best. So you need to be up close and personal, in a turret-less TD with no armour, a coin flip for penetration and a pathetic traverse, yeah let me know how that works out for you... It does have decent gun depression and AWESOME *ohmygod* camo but due to the previously mentioned issues neither of these are actually much loving use in practice. Now I suppose all of this would be tolerable but on NA tier V is painful in a KV1

tl;dr Ikv103 is for suicide bombing if the RNG allows even that.

deathbagel
Jun 10, 2008

Hellsau posted:

I mean at least he didn't miss that Type 59 sale last month, there's no way they're going to put that on sale again.

Wait... they put it on sale again!? Did you finally get one Hellsau?

Turmoilx
Nov 24, 2015

I possibly could of done something more effective with this money but I'm not sure.
flanks three enemies not a single one looks at me :huh: it was so amusing i had to save it https://youtu.be/v8I4IKtq2dg


im sure it was the camo net , also holyshit i just noticed that video is in 1440p 60fps looks like changing a setting actually did work

Turmoilx fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Mar 30, 2017

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

deathbagel posted:

Wait... they put it on sale again!? Did you finally get one Hellsau?

Psh I have four Type 59s, I'm just loaning them out.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Cartoon posted:

Allow me to introduce the Ikv 103. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:S14_Ikv_103 Garbage fire of a tank. To ace this horrendous piece of poo poo you need ~ five damage dealing shots. Getting five damage dealing shots well.... It only fires HEAT. It is a low accuracy howitzer. You can't snipe because even if you miraculously hit something the chances of the HEAT actually dealing damage are a coin flip at best. So you need to be up close and personal, in a turret-less TD with no armour, a coin flip for penetration and a pathetic traverse, yeah let me know how that works out for you... It does have decent gun depression and AWESOME *ohmygod* camo but due to the previously mentioned issues neither of these are actually much loving use in practice. Now I suppose all of this would be tolerable but on NA tier V is painful in a KV1

tl;dr Ikv103 is for suicide bombing if the RNG allows even that.

Lol
Pro;
- No need to bring large amounts of premium shells since they do not offer a significant advantage to the standard shells.

Really?

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

SocketWrench posted:

Lol
Pro;
- No need to bring large amounts of premium shells since they do not offer a significant advantage to the standard shells.

Really?

Ignore any advice given on the WoT Wiki, you'll get stupid poo poo like "put a camo net on a Tiger because you're a sniper!" 140mm of pen on HEAT shells lets you reliably punch through flat shots on enemy heavies, but 120mm is substantially less likely to do so. You really need every little bit of pen when dealing with HEAT because you get no normalization and if you happen to hit a piece of spaced armor, you'd like to have a slim chance of actually punching through whatever's behind it. Like, the KV-1(S) can use the 122mm derp gun because 140mm HEAT is reasonable, but there isn't a chance I'd use that with a max of 120mm of pen.

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot

Hellsau posted:

I mean at least he didn't miss that Type 59 sale last month, there's no way they're going to put that on sale again.

WHAT?

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
I spend most of my playing time as a walk-on player on other clan's stronghold detachments these days. AMA!

Some anecdotal observations:

The matchmaker is definitely weighted. Sometimes I have more fun on teams with poorer players because you can average 3-4 kills a game and be the superstar. When you get on teams with purples you are going against teams of purples and if your rating is somewhere around mine, you're the scrub.

Teams that want you on Teamspeak vs. silent teams is like a 60/40 ratio.

Spanish language teams almost always want Spanish speaking players. French Canadian teams are usually more hard up for players and will let you join.

ROFLburger
Jan 12, 2006

what the gently caress happened to this community?

ROFLburger
Jan 12, 2006

back in the day i would have at least a couple of players tell me that i'd burn in hell or god would smite me

Turmoilx
Nov 24, 2015

I possibly could of done something more effective with this money but I'm not sure.

ROFLburger posted:

what the gently caress happened to this community?



finally i have been noticed for my trump trolling , SAD!

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Hellsau posted:

Ignore any advice given on the WoT Wiki, you'll get stupid poo poo like "put a camo net on a Tiger because you're a sniper!" 140mm of pen on HEAT shells lets you reliably punch through flat shots on enemy heavies, but 120mm is substantially less likely to do so. You really need every little bit of pen when dealing with HEAT because you get no normalization and if you happen to hit a piece of spaced armor, you'd like to have a slim chance of actually punching through whatever's behind it. Like, the KV-1(S) can use the 122mm derp gun because 140mm HEAT is reasonable, but there isn't a chance I'd use that with a max of 120mm of pen.

I just found it funny they list "Don't bother with premium as it's no better" as a pro. That seems more like a giant loving con since you'll likely never ever be the top tier in a match, or if so it's a damned rarity. I think in any matchup with any tank I've used, maybe one in 15 I'll be in the top tier, but still low on the list anyways

ROFLburger posted:

back in the day i would have at least a couple of players tell me that i'd burn in hell or god would smite me

Trump won. The cool non conformist thing now is to not be a Christian/republican douche bag.
Speaking of which, I find it kind of funny any match I'm in when someone hails Trump before it starts, they're one of the first to die and usually have 0 damage and double digit XP at most

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 05:06 on Mar 30, 2017

Turmoilx
Nov 24, 2015

I possibly could of done something more effective with this money but I'm not sure.
yeah what else to spam knowing you have the cursed battle other than trump stuff when you see cabra or C4BRA ..whatever the name is, on your team

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost
I start games with "Viva La Trump" all the time.

I miss all chat. We should all switch to a game with all chat.

Rorac
Aug 19, 2011

NotWearingPants posted:


I miss all chat. We should all switch to a game with all chat.


I miss the full sky cancer experience. They took the one enjoyment I got out of artillery with that change.

Hellsau
Jan 14, 2010

NEVER FUCKING TAKE A NIGHT OFF CLAN WARS.

Rorac posted:

I miss the full sky cancer experience. They took the one enjoyment I got out of artillery with that change.

I won a lot of games through weaponized chat.

Atomizer
Jun 24, 2007



Oh hey has anyone been wondering what kind of crazy poo poo they've been pulling in Blitz? How about the latest update, for example:

quote:

E 25

Increased total HP from 970 to 1,000
Replaced APCR shells with 194mm penetration for HEAT shells with 250mm penetration. Damage: 160 HP, cost: 7 / 2,800
Replaced AP shells with 160mm penetration with APCR shells with 194mm penetration. Damage: 160 HP, cost: 109

:stonk:

Hellsau posted:

loving lol, got a 7v7 tier 4 match after waiting for three minutes in queue, and then I crew killed an AMX 38:




Been a while since I got one of those. Rest in peace, Pz1C.

Since you mentioned that, I got crew-killed the other day...in my STA-1 tier 8. :stare: I got hit in the side (full-penned, of course) by a T49, a fabulous tank that rewards even the droolingest of shitters, by the way; 3 crew members were knocked out. I was still alive but we were on the receiving end of a blowout loss and I don't run a large medkit on that thing, so I just said "gently caress it." The T49 returned (at this point I was surrounded anyway) and didn't pen another shot, but it was enough to kill the last crewman and leave me with like 200-300 HP. That's probably one of the only times I've been crew-killed in my ~17k battles, and I've never seen it happen at that high a tier.

SocketWrench posted:

Well, it can be useful elsewhere. I've seen them do awesome on maps like El Halluf where you can see the enemy pretty much everywhere from a distance. There's always those dumb pubbies that run down into the valley too at the beginning of the match because "OMG gotta cap base!"
Highway just watch the field/north
Westfield would be a good place. Plenty of spots for a TD

But this is for an UDES, not it's lower class "premium" and definitely not very useful against T10 which you'll get a good share of. You're better off with an e-25 taking on T8s

No offense but if you can't make ~300 pen work against tier 10s the problem's with you, not the vehicle.

Hellsau posted:

Bundle it with 15000 gold and 10 million credits, Wargaming, and you've got my money.

Wow $90 for a rare tier 8 premium tank, $60 of gold and $100 of credits? No way man, not worth it. :colbert:

CitizenKain posted:

I remember when the game was new, it was 14v14 clownshoes with the last 2 tanks being whatever was drug into the match.

Ah, I remember those days when the MM was terrible! I'm so glad they fixed it years ago! :v:

Cartoon posted:

Allow me to introduce the Ikv 103. http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Tank:S14_Ikv_103 Garbage fire of a tank. To ace this horrendous piece of poo poo you need ~ five damage dealing shots. Getting five damage dealing shots well.... It only fires HEAT. It is a low accuracy howitzer. You can't snipe because even if you miraculously hit something the chances of the HEAT actually dealing damage are a coin flip at best. So you need to be up close and personal, in a turret-less TD with no armour, a coin flip for penetration and a pathetic traverse, yeah let me know how that works out for you... It does have decent gun depression and AWESOME *ohmygod* camo but due to the previously mentioned issues neither of these are actually much loving use in practice. Now I suppose all of this would be tolerable but on NA tier V is painful in a KV1

tl;dr Ikv103 is for suicide bombing if the RNG allows even that.

Yeah, we've already complained about that Ikv earlier in the thread. The worst thing about that one is that the shell velocity is so low you can't hit moving targets at range with it.

deathbagel posted:

Wait... they put it on sale again!? Did you finally get one Hellsau?

:drat: Hoisted by his own petard, well done goone sire! :golfclap:

Turmoilx posted:

flanks three enemies not a single one looks at me :huh: it was so amusing i had to save it https://youtu.be/v8I4IKtq2dg


im sure it was the camo net , also holyshit i just noticed that video is in 1440p 60fps looks like changing a setting actually did work

Did you report those shitters for botting? Because those are total bots.

Also what issue were you having with Youtube? If it was an issue with the highest resolution not showing up, I think that's a known mechanic whereby when you upload a video it shows up at lower res first until it's finished processing.

NotWearingPants posted:

I spend most of my playing time as a walk-on player on other clan's stronghold detachments these days. AMA!

Some anecdotal observations:

The matchmaker is definitely weighted. Sometimes I have more fun on teams with poorer players because you can average 3-4 kills a game and be the superstar. When you get on teams with purples you are going against teams of purples and if your rating is somewhere around mine, you're the scrub.

Teams that want you on Teamspeak vs. silent teams is like a 60/40 ratio.

Spanish language teams almost always want Spanish speaking players. French Canadian teams are usually more hard up for players and will let you join.

The Skirmish MM is definitely adjusted since the first generation. IIRC for G1, it took into consideration the PR of the detachment leader, so you could game it by having the worst player in that position. Now I think it averages the players' PR, which is an actual surprisingly competent thing for Wargaming to have done and yet they still can't manage to apply anything like it to random battles.

ROFLburger posted:

what the gently caress happened to this community?



That's a pretty standard PANSY response. Also we were trying to wean ourselves off the LGBT-recruiting thing because it was making people take us seriously. (And then I was considering changing the clan name.)

Atomizer fucked around with this message at 07:40 on Mar 30, 2017

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

So what are people's thoughts on whether that report that WG is considering removing artillery if sandbox changes aren't well recorded is genuine?

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Bulky Bartokomous posted:

So what are people's thoughts on whether that report that WG is considering removing artillery if sandbox changes aren't well recorded is genuine?

and refund millions of exp and credits, and compensate owners for the sold-as-OP lefh? not happening

Bulky Bartokomous
Nov 3, 2006

In Mypos, only the strong survive.

Prav posted:

and refund millions of exp and credits, and compensate owners for the sold-as-OP lefh? not happening

I think they're much more likely to make them useless than flat out remove them, but I'd be fine with either tbh.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

Bulky Bartokomous posted:

I think they're much more likely to make them useless

they did that years ago

Cardiac
Aug 28, 2012

Prav posted:

they did that years ago

Yeah, it not like removing arty is going to change anything major in this game considering the player base.
Might make some purples cry less, which frankly is one reason for keeping arty in the game.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015


I buy premium tanks, use them once, then mothball them forever to preserve a bunch of meaningless colours and numbers.

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

Atomizer posted:

Oh hey has anyone been wondering what kind of crazy poo poo they've been pulling in Blitz? How about the latest update, for example:


:stonk:


:allbuttons:

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

Atomizer posted:

Did you report those shitters for botting? Because those are total bots.

I use up a vast majority of my reports every night. I'm glad it doesn't really do anything because I just use it to make myself feel better. Got shot by arty? Unsportsmanlike conduct. Terrible player that does nothing? Inaction. Think you're the Desert Fox and dispense poo poo advice in chat? Inappropriate behavior in chat.

ZogrimAteMyHamster
Dec 8, 2015

Barry posted:

Got shot by arty? Unsportsmanlike conduct.
As soon as I see anyone on the enemy team using the S-51, it's Unsportsmanlike Conduct.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:

As soon as I see anyone on the enemy team using the S-51, it's Unsportsmanlike Conduct.

Hah, I do that for the leFH.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Atomizer posted:

Oh hey has anyone been wondering what kind of crazy poo poo they've been pulling in Blitz? How about the latest update, for example:


:stonk:



Because the roach wasn't annoying enough as is. Now you have to hunt the fucker down

quote:

No offense but if you can't make ~300 pen work against tier 10s the problem's with you, not the vehicle.

You'll be engaging at long distance. Unless you like shotgunning. I had one bouncing off the rear of my Panther last night because he was across the map

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Mar 30, 2017

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012

HFX posted:

Well it looks like Wargaming already has their April Fools joke up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKlrZL4qIIs

Cool, I should pull it out saturday and see if pubbies get mad at me. Shame abut the lack of all chat though. I miss listening ot the enemy team rage out after bouncing 10 shells off the front of my tank.

NotWearingPants
Jan 3, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Nap Ghost

Atomizer posted:

That's a pretty standard PANSY response. Also we were trying to wean ourselves off the LGBT-recruiting thing because it was making people take us seriously. (And then I was considering changing the clan name.)

Yeah, we're the Pan-American National Socialist Youth again! Viva La Trump!

ROFLburger
Jan 12, 2006

I don't remember anything actually coming out of the talks of switching to something else. What are we now? Anything that isn't [lgbt joke]? Might want to change the clan insignia if that's the case

JuffoWup
Mar 28, 2012
Oooo, 9.18 info is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haclBVtbDbM

Faster reload on spgs you say? You are saying my bat 155 58 will reload its drum quicker? I'm ready.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
Lol, press a button to display a target where you intend to fire. This is just going to encourage douche bag arty to do those friendly fires. "But guys, I put a target where I was going to shoot" because firing into a group of friendlies to hit an enemy is always a smart move
It'd be nice if they'd give everyone a fourth spot for equipment now that everyone is gonna kinda have to buy spall liners

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Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
good god the Mutant better not be in a 100 dollar bundle

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