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Grey Hunter posted:Erm, Guys. They are landing troops in the Home Islands. In 1942!
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Pickled Tink posted:I suggest that you treat this as an opportunity. Let the allies keep it and use it as a target for your pilots to train against, both the base itself, and any shipping that comes in to resupply it. That is tempting, isn't it? I suppose the question is if the AI is stupid enough to keep sending ships and men on a hopeless rescue - or was stupid enough to make a landing with no plan for supporting it.
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Jun 28, 2016 00:32
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BurningStone posted:That is tempting, isn't it? I suppose the question is if the AI is stupid enough to keep sending ships and men on a hopeless rescue - or was stupid enough to make a landing with no plan for supporting it. Past evidence strongly suggests that it is.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:19
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   A sub picks off a ship coming into Singapore. We have ASW out, but its rubbish.  The continued strikes on the airfield are effective.   One of our resource convoys also comes under attack.   Another mini heart attack.   The CAP continues its good work.  Which sensibility runs away when the escorts arrive.  Dammit! Why did I put one of my few LSD's in this force!   Once again, we see that terrain is king.   A fairly busy day over the theatre, but mostly coming up in our favour. It was a really bad day for the Allied airforce.  It continues to be a bad month for our shipping.
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Jun 28, 2016 04:36
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Also a bad month for your heart with all the carrier attacks.
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Jun 28, 2016 07:31
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Yeah, they have destroyers out, but the enemy subs keep getting a bead on them. Thankfully, there have been no hits. Yet.
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Jun 28, 2016 09:04
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Did the carrier captains piss into the destroyer's breakfast? You* have one job, do it properly. *destroyer you
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Jun 28, 2016 12:05
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Omobono posted:Did the carrier captains piss into the destroyer's breakfast? You* have one job, do it properly. Army paid them off. 
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Jun 28, 2016 16:58
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  I'm beginning to hate this sub.  We continue to return Melang to the stone age.  I need to take this base – they have nowhere to run to!  That's more like it!  We start working over another city.  We're equal on base numbers, so one more good hit and we'll be in the lead. We have troops at two undefended bases, so it will certainly happen tomorrow!  Stupid sleep deprived me. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jun 29, 2016 |
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Jun 28, 2016 17:21
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What's going on at Chungking?
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Jun 28, 2016 17:28
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You missed a close bracket on the China header
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Jun 29, 2016 03:59
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I don't exactly know why you even felt you had to land at Chittagong, Grey. Akyab is right next door and a landing didn't give you any great advantage.
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Jun 29, 2016 07:30
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Does that -supply in China mean the Chunking Siege is having the desired effect?
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Jun 29, 2016 07:31
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Kemper Boyd posted:I don't exactly know why you even felt you had to land at Chittagong, Grey. Akyab is right next door and a landing didn't give you any great advantage. He's marching to Calcutta?
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Jun 29, 2016 07:52
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What's an LSD? It sure is expensive.
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Jun 29, 2016 16:26
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Landing Ship, Dock. A big supply boat that loads men and supplies onto landing craft better than anything else. Basically a ship that is really useful to have around for amphibious assaults.
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Jun 29, 2016 16:29
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The big IJN LSD's are the best amphibious landing ships the IJN gets and there are only about 3 of them. I think they also provide a bonus to assist other ships unload.
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Jun 29, 2016 16:31
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  They have to run out of torpedoes soon.  Their subs are much more active all of a sudden.  The bombers hit Soerabaja, and do some good damage to the shipping there as well.  We begin attacking the city.  We take another unmanned base.  We take Changteh, one more supply line cut.  We have more bases than the Allies! Today is a good day!  We also get one of those cruisers confirmed.
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Jun 29, 2016 17:24
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An 800 kilo AP bomb into the HNLMS Tjerimai. A boat that fully loaded weighed 80 ton. That might be our biggest overkill so far. Though it probably didn't register enough resistance to actually go off.
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Jun 29, 2016 18:10
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I feel the only reason you remotely have parity in regards to beating them in ship points is Force Z. Losing several boats a day, you're gonna run out of boats!
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Jun 29, 2016 20:18
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Kemper Boyd posted:I don't exactly know why you even felt you had to land at Chittagong, Grey. Akyab is right next door and a landing didn't give you any great advantage. Chittagong is a little farther north; presumably he's trying to cut off that unit retreating from Akyab?
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Jun 29, 2016 20:53
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Wow Soerabaja is a ghost town. I guess they threw everything into Singas.
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Jun 29, 2016 23:32
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PittTheElder posted:Chittagong is a little farther north; presumably he's trying to cut off that unit retreating from Akyab? They'll just retreat to the east instead. Besides, the units there are practically of no combat value and won't matter in a fight at this point, as far as comes to my experience. The first serious fight will be somewhere to the north when the untouched Indian and British troops come to play.
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Jun 30, 2016 09:57
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  My destroyers suck, but their torpedoes suck more.  We see more air combat.  Its only one kill, but its a kill.  The Zeros here are doing very well.  We smash their airfield once more.  We continue to make advances here.  Another good day in the air, and we're moving troops forwards.
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Jun 30, 2016 16:45
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Do flying boats get destroyed on the ground as part of bombing airfields?
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Jun 30, 2016 16:54
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I get the feeling the moment that failchance hits 50% or so the entire IJN is going to be sunk.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:01
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First appearance of my lucky ship, the Salmon, and it's putting a fish into an aircraft carrier. Niiiice. Too bad about the dud, but still.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:27
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Gamerofthegame posted:I get the feeling the moment that failchance hits 50% or so the entire IJN is going to be sunk. Yep. Right now, the destroyers suck but so do the torpedoes. Two years from now, the destroyers will still suck. The torpedoes...?
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Jun 30, 2016 19:42
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It seems like if the US didn't have the torpedo problem the war would've been a year or two shorter.
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Jun 30, 2016 19:54
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Oh, absolutely. There was a story upthread of, I think the Skipjack, having all 5 of its loaded torpedoes smack into a Japanese CVE and fail to detonate.
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Jun 30, 2016 20:42
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Leperflesh posted:First appearance of my lucky ship, the Salmon, and it's putting a fish into an aircraft carrier. Niiiice. Too bad about the dud, but still. Second, it was somewhere off Batan Island in December.
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Jun 30, 2016 21:23
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Second, it was somewhere off Batan Island in December. Huh. I must have missed it. Or, I might not have picked it as my ship yet at that point.
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Jul 1, 2016 00:12
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Leperflesh posted:Huh. I must have missed it. Or, I might not have picked it as my ship yet at that point. I think was the 9th? Really early stuff.
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Night10194 posted:It seems like if the US didn't have the torpedo problem the war would've been a year or two shorter. The US sub, uh, corps were actually really loving good (and Japan really loving bad, but that's the usual theme) at what they did. Their boats were pretty top of the line, too. If the torpedo snafu hadn't gotten caught up in red tape and lovely dudes then honestly I imagine Midway and maybe even the Coral sea wouldn't have happened. Because submarines would have sunk everything. The subpens (historically, anyway) went virtually untouched at Pearl Harbor and the other subbases in the Philliphines etc could keep operational until the last minute by the nature of being subterfuge vessels. They don't get a lot of fanfare because the subs' efforts were sworn to secrecy until "relatively" recently in like... the 90s or so? And, of course, because by the time torpedoes were fixed all the big fish were at the bottom anyway. Still, it's not like IJN kept supremacy over the seas and really did anything against the island hopping campaign, so it'd probably have been just as long.
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Subs sunk virtually everything. At least 70 percent of the ships that sunk in the Pacific between 1941-1945 can be attributed to a sub's torpedo. Had the Silent Service had, ya know, actual functioning torpedos in 1942 and the 6 months of 1943, that ratio would probably be a lot higher.
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Jul 1, 2016 02:51
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Wasn't Nimitz a big sub proponent and trained submariner himself?
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Jul 1, 2016 02:59
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So I just began my invasion of Rabaul and this happened I would withdraw but I have 3 divisions already landed and 4 more in reserve. Any tips? Night10194 posted:Wasn't Nimitz a big sub proponent and trained submariner himself? He definitely was the latter and served on three different submarines.
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Dreamsicle posted:So I just began my invasion of Rabaul and this happened Land some engineers, if you have any. You'll need them to break down those forts. In the meantime, you need to disrupt his troops as much as possible. Artillery is useful for this, but if you don't have any handy already landed on transports, you'll want to cycle in bombardment task forces. Bombing is also good. I see you don't have any armor here either. The hard AV from armor makes a big difference in assaults, especially since Japan doesn't have great anti-armor. You don't need a lot, but any time you launch an invasion, try to have at least one small armor unit with your landing force. What month/year is it in your game? That will make a huge difference. If I remember correctly, Rabaul is good defensive terrain, so you may have better luck with surface bombardments than air attack. You're also suffering from fatigue, so let your troops sit for a bit before they attack again. In any case, you can't take the base with what you have now. If your troops are well supplied, leave them and let the defenders try to counter attack - which I think they'll have a hard time doing in the terrain - and dump reinforcements in when you can. Bring a couple more divisions, a combat engineering regiment and some armor, season with regular bombardments, and you should be good to go. To help keep those bombardments going, dump a ton of supply in a nearby base that you control - within 3-4 hexes ideally - and disband some of your big AEs there. They can help reload your ships between bombardment runs so you can bombard daily. Be sure to set the float planes on your bombarding battleships to night recon of the base so they can spot for the bombardment TF.
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Yeah my next reinforcements should have some artillery and one USMC tank battalion. Will Stuarts be good enough though? Also regarding engineers do they need to have AV to help break forts? Using base forces instead of my abundant Seabees units isn't ideal. It's November 1942 currently. My initial plan from the start was to build from the Southwest Pacific (Noumea) and work my way through the Solomons with Rabaul as the end goal so that's why I'm early. Thanks for the AE's in a nearby base tip. It's going to take a while to get it going but I do have the Shortlands nearby.
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Only Combat engineers break forts, they are differentiated by being named types of engineer e.g. 'USMC Engineer' rather than just 'engineer'. Your divisions will have organic ones but you need more. Really though you should just smash the airfield with Air/Naval bombardment and pull out, it will take a long time to break down a fortress like that and there's no reason to spend the time and smash up your units when you can just go around and build up alternative bases with your million Seabees.
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