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Flint Ironstag
Apr 2, 2004

Bob Johnson...oh, wait

Sigh....

Let politics go, once in a while.

Sometimes, things are just bad people making bad decisions. Enjoy a car thread about bad drivers for what it is.

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Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Flint Ironstag posted:

Sigh....

Let politics go, once in a while.

Sometimes, things are just bad people making bad decisions. Enjoy a car thread about bad drivers for what it is.
Fix poo poo, then we’ll let it go.

Acid Reflux
Oct 18, 2004

The low beams on my Elantra have such a sharp cutoff that you can clearly see the height at which they stop being useful... and it's about 12" too low, in my opinion. Even the tiniest dip in the road reduces forward visibility by a pretty significant distance. The high beams, though, are probably bright enough to be seen from loving orbit. The reflection off stuff like speed limit signs is just like getting someone else's high beams right in the face. They're *really* good for spotting deer on the side of the road though, I've been able to easily avoid a few of them this season that I might not have seen as soon in my old car.

AFewBricksShy
Jun 19, 2003

of a full load.



Acid Reflux posted:

The low beams on my Elantra have such a sharp cutoff that you can clearly see the height at which they stop being useful... and it's about 12" too low, in my opinion. Even the tiniest dip in the road reduces forward visibility by a pretty significant distance. The high beams, though, are probably bright enough to be seen from loving orbit. The reflection off stuff like speed limit signs is just like getting someone else's high beams right in the face. They're *really* good for spotting deer on the side of the road though, I've been able to easily avoid a few of them this season that I might not have seen as soon in my old car.

If you think they are too low you can adjust them to be higher, but just make sure you aren't going to be blinding people.

My car (BRZ) has the sharp cut off as well. Since my car is so light, it actually has a dial that can drop the headlights if you have too much weight in the trunk (which would angle the lights upwards).

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

PremiumSupport posted:

I want to know why so many taller rigs are being sold without having mudflaps these days. I go through way too much washer fluid when I'm behind newer pickups and SUVs.

SUVs are actually the worst offenders. Manufacturers have moved the wheels as far back as they can on the frame and eliminated the mudflaps at the same time.

Hey maybe don’t ride so close behind people

Acid Reflux
Oct 18, 2004

AFewBricksShy posted:

If you think they are too low you can adjust them to be higher, but just make sure you aren't going to be blinding people.

My car (BRZ) has the sharp cut off as well. Since my car is so light, it actually has a dial that can drop the headlights if you have too much weight in the trunk (which would angle the lights upwards).
I'm probably going to have the adjustment looked at the next scheduled service. My poor old back can't take being hunched over a car anymore, ugh. But maybe it's just the way they are... this is the newest car I've owned in a very long time (it's a '17) and I'm probably just used to Ye Olde Standarde headlights. Last two cars were a '96 Camry and an '03 Escort ZX2 so this one is quite a modern step up for me.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

PremiumSupport posted:

I want to know why so many taller rigs are being sold without having mudflaps these days. I go through way too much washer fluid when I'm behind newer pickups and SUVs.

SUVs are actually the worst offenders. Manufacturers have moved the wheels as far back as they can on the frame and eliminated the mudflaps at the same time.
I don't know if this is a thing everywhere, but here in Ohio recently there seems to be a trend among truck owners to install wheels with the wrong offset that cause the tires to stick many inches out of the fender. Not oversize mud tires, mind you, but just plain old roughly stock diameter road tires. They don't run extended fenders or anything, just tires poking out. Obviously those fling a ton of poo poo in all directions.

Anyways, the mud flap law at least here only applies to commercial vehicles over three tons so personal vehicles are entirely exempt.

Acid Reflux posted:

The low beams on my Elantra have such a sharp cutoff that you can clearly see the height at which they stop being useful... and it's about 12" too low, in my opinion. Even the tiniest dip in the road reduces forward visibility by a pretty significant distance.
Definitely check the headlight alignment. If you have access to a level surface where you can park facing a wall you can realign most cars' headlights with a screwdriver and a tape measure in less than five minutes. The owner's manual should give you a guide saying to park the car X distance from the wall, measure and mark some spots, then adjust the aim by turning some screws until you hit the mark.

AFewBricksShy posted:

My car (BRZ) has the sharp cut off as well. Since my car is so light, it actually has a dial that can drop the headlights if you have too much weight in the trunk (which would angle the lights upwards).
This too, if you have a manual level control it's possible yours may have been bumped down. AFAIK the manual control is not really common on US-market vehicles but it does show up from time to time when an automaker wants to standardize across markets. I've seen auto-level on a bunch of mid-range and nicer vehicles though.

PremiumSupport
Aug 17, 2015

nsaP posted:

Hey maybe don’t ride so close behind people

I wouldn't be complaining about it if I were tailgating. I totally get that being right on someone's rear end when the road is wet/snowy/slushy is not the right place to be for many reasons. It's when I'm 4 or 5 carlengths back and still get my windshield covered with dots of road slime that I have a problem with.

Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

wolrah posted:

Definitely check the headlight alignment. If you have access to a level surface where you can park facing a wall you can realign most cars' headlights with a screwdriver and a tape measure in less than five minutes. The owner's manual should give you a guide saying to park the car X distance from the wall, measure and mark some spots, then adjust the aim by turning some screws until you hit the mark.

A fairly comprehensive guide: http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/aim/aim.html

BOOTY-ADE
Aug 30, 2006

BIG KOOL TELLIN' Y'ALL TO KEEP IT TIGHT

Javid posted:

I would hugely love to have some gigantic fuckoff light bar I can engage on dirt roads at night, but I cannot fathom willfully activating such on a friggin freeway with other people.

Yeah I get it if you're taking a truck off-road or somewhere that doesn't have decent streetlamps, but being in the midwest I see trucks like this all the drat time, usually with 2-3 light bars on the front & all of them turned on at once with the headlights going simultaneously. loving inbred redneck douchebags gotta ruin everyone's day with their obnoxious poo poo because mommy didn't pay enough attention to them, she was too busy beating up the other 6 retarded kids in their double wide I guess.

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010
I'm still in the newspaper business, and I've thought quite seriously about putting a gently caress-off big light bar on top of the CRV for visibility. Hell if I would ever run it with cars in front of me, I'd run it off the high beams with a relay.

Beach Bum fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 22, 2019

LloydDobler
Oct 15, 2005

You shared it with a dick.


That's a great guide, although I drive lowered cars so I've found that I do what's in that guide, but perfectly level. I shoot a very long beam of light below everyone's eye line and it works great.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Beach Bum posted:

I'm still in the newspaper business, and I've thought quite seriously about putting a gently caress-off big light bar on top of the CRV for visibility. Hell if I would ever run it with cars in front of me, I'd run it off the high beams with a relay.

Yeah, for the most part those light bars are straight up illegal to use on the road no matter what, in some states you actually have to have them covered, but I see nothing morally wrong with wiring them to the high beams.

PremiumSupport
Aug 17, 2015

wolrah posted:

Yeah, for the most part those light bars are straight up illegal to use on the road no matter what, in some states you actually have to have them covered, but I see nothing morally wrong with wiring them to the high beams.

Especially in the situation of doing delivery dropoffs in the dark. Headlights, even high-beams, just don't throw enough light were you need it in areas without good streetlighting.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG
People can literally run a red light in front of a police officer and not get pulled over most of the time so if you do install a light bar like that are are actually conscientious about it I doubt anyone would say anything.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Protocol7 posted:

People can literally run a red light in front of a police officer and not get pulled over most of the time so if you do install a light bar like that are are actually conscientious about it I doubt anyone would say anything.

But if they ever do get pulled over they're gonna burn a ream of paper printing out the ticket. Turns into a "oh now that I've got you here, let's fine you for all this other poo poo too!"

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
imagine driving while black with offroad accessories

waffle iron
Jan 16, 2004
Sometimes you have to pull your car over, spotlight a deer, and shoot it through your rolled down passenger window.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

waffle iron posted:

Sometimes you have to pull your car over, spotlight a deer, and shoot it through your rolled down passenger window.

Just do like that one super badass cop and one-hand your rifle while shooting through your windshield.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Protocol7 posted:

People can literally run a red light in front of a police officer and not get pulled over most of the time so if you do install a light bar like that are are actually conscientious about it I doubt anyone would say anything.

I was going to say something like this based on how little effort they put into HID retrofits, but a light bar mounted externally is a lot easier to spot than to know which vehicles have OEM HIDs and which don't, or barring that, how to spot the difference.

Also since headlight specifications are USDOT regulated its harder to prove non-compliance with incorrect bulbs in an otherwise legal enclosure vs a state law or statute outright bars use of light bars.

SilvergunSuperman
Aug 7, 2010

Protocol7 posted:

Just do like that one super badass cop and one-hand your rifle while shooting through your windshield.

Got a link sir,?

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

I think it’s a reference to this, but this is a pistol:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/police-officer-shoots-through-his-cruisers-windshield-during-high-speed-pursuit/

There was another one with a rifle but it was a while lot more ambiguous in terms of ethics, sooooo

Craptacular
Jul 11, 2004

Krakkles posted:

There was another one with a rifle but it was a while lot more ambiguous in terms of ethics, sooooo

It doesn't really appear ambiguous to me. The guy was a violent felon, and was shooting at police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47ONDlR9aY

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

Craptacular posted:

It doesn't really appear ambiguous to me. The guy was a violent felon, and was shooting at police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47ONDlR9aY
That’s definitely not the other video I was thinking of, but it sounds like a better match to this situation.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Craptacular posted:

It doesn't really appear ambiguous to me. The guy was a violent felon, and was shooting at police.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p47ONDlR9aY

Except "shooting wildly through your windshield while driving a car" is a perfect way to shoot an innocent bystander.

Then again it's not like law enforcement ever takes what lies beyond their intended target into consideration when they start magdumping.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Protocol7 posted:

Just do like that one super badass cop and one-hand your rifle while shooting through your windshield.

What about using a, by design, one-handed SMG intended for police use? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3thJ9Tm2ecU
(Love Forgotten Weapons. So many "This is such a bad idea" engineering moments)

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Geoj posted:

Except "shooting wildly through your windshield while driving a car" is a perfect way to shoot an innocent bystander.

Then again it's not like law enforcement ever takes what lies beyond their intended target into consideration when they start magdumping.

People I my town were HAPPY when a cop magdumped at a criminal car with a public school as a backdrop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiWik49vQQ

Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Nov 24, 2019

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

Alkydere posted:

(Love Forgotten Weapons. So many "This is such a bad idea" engineering moments)

Well, at least weapon engineers share that with vehicle engineers.

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
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Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Protocol7 posted:

Well, at least weapon engineers share that with vehicle engineers.

I've yet to find a car that's such a mess as the Breda Model 30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFJI04ifSoM) but if you have a video of a breakdown of one I'd love to watch it.

Showed that video to a friend and he described it as an "expanding fractal of bad ideas".

(Gonna stop posting those because as fun as they are they're off topic. I just think it's fun to inform as many people as I can about the Breda Model 30's existence)

Alkydere fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Nov 24, 2019

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Alkydere posted:

I've yet to find a car that's such a mess as the Breda Model 30 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFJI04ifSoM) but if you have a video of a breakdown of one I'd love to watch it.

Showed that video to a friend and he described it as an "expanding fractal of bad ideas".

(Gonna stop posting those because as fun as they are they're off topic. I just think it's fun to inform as many people as I can about the Breda Model 30's existence)

If you like how they built guns, wait until you see how they fuckle trains. These are the people you share international high-speed rail contracts with. IIRC, some wag spray painted words to the effect of, "Ansaldo-Breda sucks and they've ripped us off for millions on poo poo that doesn't work!", on the side of one consist. Dutch rail happily left that on there while putting it through test runs all over the country.

Javid
Oct 21, 2004

:jpmf:

Wasabi the J posted:

People I my town were HAPPY when a cop magdumped at a criminal car with a public school as a backdrop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IiWik49vQQ

There are powerful hearing aids in that cop's future

slidebite
Nov 6, 2005

Good egg
:colbert:

That is literally the first thing that I thought of. Holy gently caress. I can't imagine how loud that was.

I'm not going to poo poo on that cop. He took his time making that decision and it was ultimately what ended the pursuit.

Nocheez
Sep 5, 2000

Can you spare a little cheddar?
Nap Ghost

Javid posted:

There are powerful hearing aids in that cop's future

Better than losing his life. Holy crap that was intense.

edit: can you imagine being the driver of the U-haul when the cop opens fire the first time?

Nocheez fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Nov 25, 2019

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
drat

Colostomy Bag
Jan 11, 2016

:lesnick: C-Bangin' it :lesnick:

Power of the Panther.

Edit: Anyone have an idea on the weight of that thing?

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Colostomy Bag posted:

Power of the Panther.

Edit: Anyone have an idea on the weight of that thing?

Power ain't the problem, it's the everything else.

Dry, on trailer? 7-8000lbs. Any half-ton from the last 15 years would tow that on flat ground just fine.

Guess what the tow rating on a non-Lincoln (short wheel base, no air-ride) panther car is? Go ahead, guess. 1500lbs. lol

This is something a lot of people don't seem to understand, trucks are built to handle weight differently than cars. Someone here noticed the carry weight rating on an F150 was within a few hundred pounds of their Fiesta from the same year. Try putting all that weight over the rear axle of a car and poo poo will break before you even put it in gear. My dad decides to put 1000lbs of field stones in his Fiesta, springs break. I put 1000lbs of stone in the back of an older American pickup, it just drives slower.

That doesn't even get into towing. Even a smaller car can pull a surprising amount of weight compared to what it can carry on the vehicle's chassis. Go with a weight distributing hitch and you even have some measure of controlability.

tldr: Tow heavy poo poo with heavy poo poo, as heavy poo poo is less lovely to tow with.

TotalLossBrain
Oct 20, 2010

Hier graben!
You forgot to mention brakes. The problem with towing heavy poo poo isn't necessarily accelerating - can you slow it down effectively?

the answer to that for the pictured combo is a hearty LOL

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

TotalLossBrain posted:

You forgot to mention brakes. The problem with towing heavy poo poo isn't necessarily accelerating - can you slow it down effectively?

the answer to that for the pictured combo is a hearty LOL

Yup. Brakes are super important. You'd be floored to find out how many people don't even bother with a trailer brake controller, running with no brakes at all out back. Shocks, too. Blow them shits and you'll get a real nasty surprise when panic stopping.

You are 100% correct about acceleration being the least of your problems. I got a story, too (because of course I do): Go to my great-uncle's house to pick up a truck and trailer so I can cover his work while he's on vacation. The littlest 2006 V-6 Chevy half-ton with the shortest bed and a single cab that tows a 20ft long, 8.5 ft wide, 7.5ft tall, flat-nosed cargo trailer five days a week. "This thing is grossly inadequate for the job", he tells me, "once it's up to speed it's fine, getting there and slowing down is the problem."
gently caress me, that was terrifying. 55mph in the right lane, engine screaming, truckers pulling alongside with shocked looks on their faces once they got past the trailer. I missed my first few turns on a route I've run in multiple other vehicles/combinations because evidently a quarter mile was not enough room to brake from 45mph.

I told the business owner his truck was dying a slow death by 20ft trailer. He went out a bought a 2013 Silverado 2500HD not too long after ($33k for a three year old truck with 75,000 miles :gonk:). loving thing is a beast, even with a 6.0 gas motor. Everything is just so huge and over-built. Rides and drives better with the loaded trailer behind it.

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