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I'm the Boss is a much better (drunk) "no, gently caress you" game.
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Xelkelvos posted:I also remember there were coward tokens or something? Oh gently caress, I forgot about that. In both games, after guns are aimed, you can opt to hit the deck to avoid getting shot and sit the round out. In C&G1, you got a Shame counter for doing this. It was worth -$5k at the end of the game. In C&G2, nothing. They took Shame counters out. They basically went out of their way to remove all interesting cost/benefit decisions from the game, and then they went out of their way to include as much RNG as possible.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:12
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Broken Loose posted:It gets worse. In order to become the Godfather, you must try to take the Godfather's desk token instead of taking a piece of Loot during a distribution round. That seems tidy on the surface, given that Godfather is such a ludicrously powerful ability, but you don't take the Godfather by just sacrificing your loot claim action. You take the Godfather by flipping the desk token (as if it were a coin), and if it lands heads-up you inherit the status. If it lands tails-up, you wasted your action. It's so loving asinine and indicative of the greater design problems both with C&G2E and with lovely monkey cheese games as a whole. I don't think this is correct.
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Mar 11, 2016 22:15
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Broken Loose posted:It gets worse. In order to become the Godfather, you must try to take the Godfather's desk token instead of taking a piece of Loot during a distribution round. That seems tidy on the surface, given that Godfather is such a ludicrously powerful ability, but you don't take the Godfather by just sacrificing your loot claim action. You take the Godfather by flipping the desk token (as if it were a coin), and if it lands heads-up you inherit the status. If it lands tails-up, you wasted your action. It's so loving asinine and indicative of the greater design problems both with C&G2E and with lovely monkey cheese games as a whole. quote:*Instead of taking a card, it’s possible to flip the New It's clear that what they mean by flipping it is just turning it upside down so that it is clear that other people can't take it, not actually flipping it in the air.
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Mar 11, 2016 23:10
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Is there any reason not to take Godfather other than it being last round? Also, is there still a set number of rounds? Because if it isn't # of rounds = # of players that definitely favors the people who get it more than once. Or is the loot diverse and enticing enough to avoid that scenario? It strikes me a lot of base Twilight Imperium where your top two choices are something like "Grab the 2VP role first" and "Grab 'Be First Player' second so you can grab the 2VP role first next round."
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Mar 11, 2016 23:30
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Edit: whoops, didn't load last page before replying. Ignore me!
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Mar 11, 2016 23:31
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Broken Loose posted:The new loot system in C&G2E is so much worse than the original. Let's make a great new update to Tragedy Looper where we make it about zombies and cthulu and the scenarios will have scenarios with special rules that the players don't know aside from "they're there."  At least you can make C&G first edition from the second with a marker (for the Bang Bang Bang!), taking out the non-cash loot, finding some random tokens for shame, and swallowing eternal regret.
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Mar 12, 2016 00:23
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Selecta84 posted:Fields of Arle is a great game. taser rates posted:7 Wonders Duel and Patchwork Big McHuge posted:I'd grab Patchwork and Istanbul off that list. Gilgameshback posted:Commands and Colors Ancients. golden bubble posted:Patchwork app.. PAL-18 posted:Dungeon Petz Narrowed down the list, thank you for the input and suggestions
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Mar 12, 2016 01:17
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Played some more Pax Pamir tonight. I got stuck in a cycle where I had to keep preventing the person going after me from winning until I couldn't do so anymore and he won. I made some errors earlier that probably cost me the game but the two times we've played it's been with three which seems...not great. The designer says it's very fragile with three and I agree. I think I would rather play something else with three players and reserve it for four or five where the diplomatic aspects would be more prevalent. Everyone had a much better handle on it this time and some really nasty plays presented themselves. It seems to be intensely strategic but somehow very tactical and free-wheeling at the same time. I quite like it. Then we played some Sticheln which is probably the best trick-taking game ever devised, at least with three players. Four might be okay but with more it seems like it would get too chaotic.
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Mar 12, 2016 06:18
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Trynant posted:Let's make a great new update to Tragedy Looper where we make it about ... cthulu You joke, but...
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Mar 12, 2016 06:41
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Yea, but on the other hand this is by the original TLooper designer so it's probably actually good.
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Mar 12, 2016 06:46
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Tekopo posted:This isn't actually a rule in the game as far as I know. The rules can be misconstrued but here they are: Wonderful, on one hand I got taught the game by a degenerate idiot (and by that point in the game my patience was already out the window), on the other hand the manual is written poorly enough for that to be an issue.
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Mar 12, 2016 08:06
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lmfao this avatar rules, i'm also super stoked that they kept my gently caress BOARD GAMES tag
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Mar 12, 2016 08:07
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Don't play Elysium with Athena and Hermes. Just don't. In a normal game (with Hades), I have 2-3 cards in my legend and 14 in my Elysium. Even without Hades, I'm about 5 to 12. I had 13 cards in my Elysium. I had fourteen left in my legend. I still lost by 2.
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Mar 12, 2016 11:15
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Broken Loose posted:lmfao this avatar rules, i'm also super stoked that they kept my gently caress BOARD GAMES tag Yeah honestly that's pretty boss.
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Mar 12, 2016 14:03
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Archipelago is a thing I got to play. It took us most of the session to get the rules down despite some play aides and prep work, but I don't think we did anything terribly wrong. A medium game with three players took about two hours, but I think we could get that way down. Despite the number of available options, ap wasn't much of an issue. Some aspects of the theme are super unfortunate and not necessary. I would feel uncomfortable playing the game in some settings. We didn't end up negotiating much at all, although I kept trying to force it. Maybe that changes in a five players game, but competition for resources was far less cutthroat than I expected. I keep forgetting that my partner loves euros because we so rarely play them, so I don't regret the purchase at all. It's nice to have something in our collection there besides Castles of Burgundy and Terra Mystica, the latter of which I have trouble getting into.
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Mar 12, 2016 19:48
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Somberbrero posted:Archipelago is a thing I got to play.... With Archipelago negotiations are really just what you make of them in many ways. Higher player count can definitely help it, as well as certain cards coming out (since they're both tradeable and can really mess with the game), and frankly the players in the game. If outright deals don't happen, it's cool. Archipelago is very malleable with what group plays it. Should be noted that the biggest negotiation can and should happen during Balance of the Archipelago and Evolution Card crises since a player can leverage the resources needed to pay for, well, the whole game...though there's always that risk of a Separatist. quote:...Some aspects of the theme are super unfortunate and not necessary. I would feel uncomfortable playing the game in some settings.... yeah 
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Mar 12, 2016 23:06
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Selecta84 posted:I was thinking about trying the LOTR lcg but I know myself to well. I would really have to restrain myself really hard from getting all the expansions if I like it. Why restrain yourself
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Foehammer posted:Why restrain yourself Good argument
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Mar 13, 2016 02:09
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Hello. I have finally had a chance to play Codenames. I am late, but I am still fortunate. (It's seriously amazing! No wonder it's sold out everywhere here)
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Mar 13, 2016 04:08
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Just get the core set and see how you like it. It's cheap. You don't need any expansions right off the bat to make it fun, and unless you plan to play with more than 2 people, you really don't need a second core ever. Then every time you order a different game (or anything at all from Amazon, if that's how you roll), tack on one or two adventure packs. That way you keep enjoying the game at a steady pace and you don't get immediately bogged down in optimizing your deck from a huge pool of options right from the start.
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Mar 13, 2016 04:15
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I don't know whether they got this idea from somewhere on the internet, but my friends have started referring to individual games by the name "Operation: ________ _________" where the blanks are the first two clues given. Just got done playing Operation: Weed Vanderbilt.
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Mar 13, 2016 09:12
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Artelier posted:Hello. Seems like every game night in my meetup group, we're playing that.
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Mar 13, 2016 11:02
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Is Batavia any good there's a copy on sale for £10 at the meet up I'm at?
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Mar 13, 2016 11:29
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CaptainRightful posted:Just get the core set and see how you like it. It's cheap. You don't need any expansions right off the bat to make it fun, and unless you plan to play with more than 2 people, you really don't need a second core ever. Note that this is a post about LOTR:LCG, not Codenames. In case anyone was thinking "Expansions!?"
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Mar 13, 2016 12:19
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Which is better, Suburbia or Castles of Mad King Ludwig?
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Mar 13, 2016 16:04
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Suburbia is definitely tighter design wise, but it's also more mathy and brainy. Overall I'd say choose whichever theme you enjoy more because they're pretty close. I prefer Suburbia, but Castles has the great master builder mechanic.
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Mar 13, 2016 16:12
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Bullbar posted:Which is better, Suburbia or Castles of Mad King Ludwig? I like Mad King best at a full player count of 4, Suburbia is better at 3/2/1
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Mar 13, 2016 16:45
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What's the ideal count for Keyflower? I played it for the first time with 5 a few weeks ago and each game there was 1 or 2 people who were hopelessly out of the game by the end of the second round. I'm sure we were playing badly since most of us were new, but it seemed that with 5 people there was always a player or two who would be completely out of it by the end of the second round.
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Mar 13, 2016 16:53
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drat Dirty Ape posted:What's the ideal count for Keyflower? I played it for the first time with 5 a few weeks ago and each game there was 1 or 2 people who were hopelessly out of the game by the end of the second round. I'm sure we were playing badly since most of us were new, but it seemed that with 5 people there was always a player or two who would be completely out of it by the end of the second round. I like it best with just 2 players, and feel it gets less good as you add players. Other people like it best with 4. Either way, there's a general consensus that with 5 or 6 players, it gets worse
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Mar 13, 2016 17:44
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unpronounceable posted:I like it best with just 2 players, and feel it gets less good as you add players. Other people like it best with 4. Either way, there's a general consensus that with 5 or 6 players, it gets worse Wow my last post was terrible, but thanks this is sort of the feeling I was getting as we were playing. At 5 it almost felt a little too crowded for me, with people stepping on each others toes constantly for no real reason other than 'there is nothing else I can do'.
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Mar 13, 2016 17:56
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I played a few games of Viceroy and didn't like it, while everyone else thought it was amazing. Am I an idiot? Apart from hoping to get lucky draws, I didn't like the auction system since some cards seems plain better than others, so it was often a choice between getting nothing but gems, or letting the other guy get this great card.
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Mar 13, 2016 20:44
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Re: LOTR LCG, I really badly want to like it, but with the core set, I feel like every scenario I play is just a very, very strict puzzle with so little wiggle room that if I get a bad draw, or send one person questing on the wrong turn, I'm just totally hosed. Is this feeling of always being set back on your heels just always going to be there, or is this something that gives you a little more breathing room if you have some expansions? I really like the core mechanics, but I don't enjoy the feeling of just barely treading water to keep from losing. edit: And I do understand the mitigation of luck factors with cards that let you peek at the encounter deck beforehand and whatnot, but even utilizing what I understand to be "correct" play, I still just feel so dang much like I'm barely squeaking by, and not in the fun Mage Knight way where I'm getting stronger every turn. dropkickpikachu fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Mar 13, 2016 |
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Mar 13, 2016 20:54
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Bullbar posted:Which is better, Suburbia or Castles of Mad King Ludwig? Absolutely love Suburbia, absolutely hated Ludwig. YMMV. As for Keyflower, I've enjoyed it all any player count. It is a brutal game, so the more players, the more of a moshpit it becomes, which is fun.
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Mar 13, 2016 21:09
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dropkickpikachu posted:Re: LOTR LCG, I really badly want to like it, but with the core set, I feel like every scenario I play is just a very, very strict puzzle with so little wiggle room that if I get a bad draw, or send one person questing on the wrong turn, I'm just totally hosed. It's very, very difficult until something clicks and you get an insight. Also some of the decks in the core game are really not viable by themselves - I played a few rounds with the core set Bravery deck and thought that the game was just awful, but it turns out that core set Bravery just won't cut it in solo play. Building your own deck will help a great deal (even is you only use core set cards, many of which are extremely good). Also note that the quests in the core set are not by any means the easiest in the game - some are extremely difficult. The feeling of being one turn away from total disaster eventually goes away, but the whole game is kind of structured around a small group of heroes fighting for their lives, and certainly a few bad encounters in a row can make things very difficult very fast.
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Mar 13, 2016 21:29
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By Bravery do you mean Tactics? The red sphere? If so yeah it seems a little too tough. Are there any good recommendations for a beginner deck that mixes spheres and tends to teach good habits if not make things a bit easier?
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dropkickpikachu posted:By Bravery do you mean Tactics? The red sphere? We didn't get too deep in LotR, and this is largely why. It's not just that the sample decks you get are bad, they're terribly inconsistent between each other, and internally within each deck. It felt really random whether you could draw key cards and contribute, or just kind of sit and spin and get slapped around. I'm sure some skill and experience and deckbuilding effort would have got us over the hump, but in the end we just moved on to the next thing. I think they could probably have presented the game a lot better than they did.
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Mar 13, 2016 22:00
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dropkickpikachu posted:By Bravery do you mean Tactics? The red sphere? Sorry, meant to write Leadership - the pink rune. Building a two color deck that combines one of the martial spheres (Tactics or Leadership) with Lore or Spirit will help a great deal. The single color decks in the core set are not well balanced. Tactics/Spirit is my current favorite because it combines very strong questing with enough combat strength to deal with most enemies fairly easily. Make sure to include three copies of Gandalf!
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cenotaph posted:Played some more Pax Pamir tonight. I got stuck in a cycle where I had to keep preventing the person going after me from winning until I couldn't do so anymore and he won. I made some errors earlier that probably cost me the game but the two times we've played it's been with three which seems...not great. The designer says it's very fragile with three and I agree. I think I would rather play something else with three players and reserve it for four or five where the diplomatic aspects would be more prevalent. Everyone had a much better handle on it this time and some really nasty plays presented themselves. It seems to be intensely strategic but somehow very tactical and free-wheeling at the same time. I quite like it. My brother is coming down from NYC and he loves these kinds of games, so I'll probably be able to get a 5p game in this week. Interested to see how it plays if 3 players become loyal to one country, or even if it becomes a 2v2v1. Also have you played the Chicago Express expansion? Is it any good? I've been thinking about that or American Rails until I can get the courage to buy 1889.
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Gilgameshback posted:Sorry, meant to write Leadership - the pink rune. Tactics is the only sphere inadequate by itself, but it's definitely easier to build a balanced deck with two spheres. The first cycle of adventure packs includes the Song cards that really help get those two-sphere engines running.
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