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1st gen products always sucks, especially Apple's. The first Air was a travesty with the closed hinge that covered up the ports.
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Cingulate posted:I need a new computer Just get a 2015
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Nov 4, 2016 12:48
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Jose Valasquez posted:Just get a 2015 Applies across the whole Apple range TBH
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Nov 4, 2016 12:51
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Jose Valasquez posted:Just get a 2015
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Nov 4, 2016 13:00
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too heavy? They're less than 2kg do you have polio?
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Nov 4, 2016 13:16
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No, I just use my portable as a portable, in the sense Tim and Steve intended Man to, and not as a desktop replacement.
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Nov 4, 2016 13:19
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You are insane if you think a 13" 2kg laptop is too heavy for portable use.
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Nov 4, 2016 13:20
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I think I write this in like every second post ITT, but I carry my laptop with me at least 4 hours every day. If you actually use your portable as a portable, you begin to notice half a kg. Going from my old pro to my current air was a massive improvement.
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Nov 4, 2016 13:25
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If you can't carry around 3.5lbs all day perhaps you should go check out the general exercise thread in W&W.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:04
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Mu Zeta posted:I'm going to wait for another refresh Never buy 1st rev hardware by anyone. Including (and maybe especially) Apple. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 14:05
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Jose Valasquez posted:If you can't carry around 3.5lbs all day perhaps you should go check out the general exercise thread in W&W. In fact, the 2016 is only 0.5lbs lighter than that.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:09
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Bob Morales posted:what the gently caress is a tech bro Jose Valasquez posted:If you can't carry around 3.5lbs all day perhaps you should go check out the general exercise thread in W&W.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:12
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Jose Valasquez posted:In fact, the 2016 is only 0.5lbs lighter than that. A lot more than going from one type of RAM to another I am sure. Apple, with all of their legendary understanding of customer desires, being able to predict not what you want, but what you will want, seem to agree. I'm super happy for everyone who can get a fully decked out 2015 15" now though and be satisfied. Isn't that amazing - last gens apple product always seems to be exactly what a bunch of people think this gen should have been.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:33
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Personally I'm a weak skinny-fat computer geek, 160lbs 6'0", and I carried a 17" MBP around campus for entire days in a backpack, and I didn't find it heavy at all. I brought it with me on trips where I had to walk around a lot too. I don't get why you can't unless you have some condition that tires you or causes pain. If you're healthy, it shouldn't be a problem. Either you're not healthy and you're not telling us, or you're making a big deal out of nothing. Personally? I'd rather have the extra weight, and the ports, and the battery life. I wish we had a retina 17 :/
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Nov 4, 2016 14:42
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[neckbeard] I'm a bigger guy (6-3 350) so I need a bigger machine  [/neckbeard] Actually my favorite comment by people is that they have 'big hands' so they need a bigger machine. THE KEYBOARDS ARE ALL THE SAME SIZE. The 15" MBP is pretty thin and light, especially compared to clunkier PC laptops of not that long ago. I don't think anyone would really complain about it in a backpack. But If you're using it on the go, especially at a tiny coffee shop table or classroom desk, it's just too big. Compared to the 13" it's only an inch one way and two inches the other, but the footprint increase is pretty big. and going down to a 11" Air or 12" MacBook is an even nicer setup, but you start to make screen space sacrifices. 
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Nov 4, 2016 14:53
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Pivo posted:Personally I'm a weak skinny-fat computer geek, 160lbs 6'0", and I carried a 17" MBP around campus for entire days in a backpack, and I didn't find it heavy at all. I brought it with me on trips where I had to walk around a lot too. I don't get why you can't unless you have some condition that tires you or causes pain. If you're healthy, it shouldn't be a problem. Either you're not healthy and you're not telling us, or you're making a big deal out of nothing. Okay, it's not that it's objectively the only correct way for laptops to be as thin as possible. There's a wide spectrum from optimal performance to optimal portability. But on the other hand, it's not objectively correct for laptops to not be as thin as possible either. I very clearly benefit from them being lighter. It's just a lot of trains and airports and running to meetings - you notice it very quickly.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:54
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It's just really dumb to bypass a 2015 because "it's too heavy". I tote a 2012 non retina to school four days a week 5 hours a day and sometimes I forget I have it with me. It's one of the lightest things I have to carry.
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Nov 4, 2016 14:58
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rally posted:It's just really dumb to bypass a 2015 because "it's too heavy". I tote a 2012 non retina to school four days a week 5 hours a day and sometimes I forget I have it with me. It's one of the lightest things I have to carry.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:01
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Please just shut this thread down now, we've hit peak insanity when .5lb on an Apple product (which are already lighter than everything else) is factoring into buying decisions.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:06
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TraderStav posted:Please just shut this thread down now, we've hit peak insanity when .5lb on an Apple product (which are already lighter than everything else) is factoring into buying decisions. But what are legitimate concerns - RAM that's 25% faster? Having to carry around a <.5lb dongle?
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Nov 4, 2016 15:12
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Cingulate posted:I didn't have much of a problem carrying around a massive Dell with Linux on it when I was a student either, but I'm older now, actually work a job, commute very far, and know things can be better. Yeah I'm nearly 30 campus was a long time ago and I had a job where I had to carry around a huge heavy Dell and that was a pain in the rear end. The MacBook Pro is a featherweight in that context - any of them.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:12
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Cingulate posted:But what are legitimate concerns - RAM that's 25% faster? Having to carry around a <.5lb dongle? The lower battery life due to the 1/3 smaller battery.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:16
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Twerk from Home posted:The lower battery life due to the 1/3 smaller battery. Pivo posted:Yeah I'm nearly 30 campus was a long time ago and I had a job where I had to carry around a huge heavy Dell and that was a pain in the rear end. The MacBook Pro is a featherweight in that context - any of them.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:23
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Cingulate posted:You call it .5lb, I call it 25%. Yes, you can use percentages. However, when you begin to divide by small amounts then large percentages are created to sound much more impressive. I don't lift percentages, I lift pounds.
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Nov 4, 2016 15:48
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I can't loving wait to get my touchbar MBP, you goddamn nerds
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Nov 4, 2016 15:53
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TraderStav posted:Yes, you can use percentages. However, when you begin to divide by small amounts then large percentages are created to sound much more impressive. I don't lift percentages, I lift pounds.
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Cingulate posted:I don't think it's dumb, but how lucky are you that you can use Mac hardware from 2 years ago and it totally works fine for you? You must save so much money compared to me. Hah what? I'm positive you missed my point. There's also the fact that a 2015 could possibly provide more computing power for less money but okay ... if that weight difference matters so much to you then I am deeply sorry for your severe handicap. rally fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 16:05
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rally posted:Hah what? I'm positive you missed my point. There's also the fact that a 2015 could possibly provide more computing power for less money but okay ... if that weight difference matters so much to you then I am deeply sorry for your severe handicap.
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Nov 4, 2016 16:37
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I carry a Mac Pro on my back like I'm going to go bust some ghosts
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Mu Zeta posted:1st gen products always sucks, especially Apple's. The first Air was a travesty with the closed hinge that covered up the ports. flosofl posted:Never buy 1st rev hardware by anyone. Including (and maybe especially) Apple. MBP pro users I know wanted a speed-bump. Apple said they didn't want to do a speed-bump release. Cingulate posted:Okay, it's not that it's objectively the only correct way for laptops to be as thin as possible. There's a wide spectrum from optimal performance to optimal portability. If you step back a moment you might appreciate people have other use cases than you.
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Nov 4, 2016 17:29
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Selling a 15" early 2013 rMBP, posting here 'cause I've noticed people dont watch SA mart much for macbooks.
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no joke I forget my 2015 13" is even in my backpack sometime. edit: i had to metric-ify .5lb - you seriously care about a 220g difference? I'm pretty sure a belt buckle or a particularly heavy fedora would tip 200g. well why not fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Nov 4, 2016 |
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Nov 4, 2016 18:00
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Khablam posted:The problem here is they've mashed the air into the pro and created a hybrid that isn't ideal for enthusiasts of either previous machine. The 15" MBP is now a worse 'main computer' than at any previous time and Apple don't have an alternative that does it, and are in fact busy telling people they shouldn't want such a thing. Cingulate posted:Okay, it's not that it's objectively the only correct way for laptops to be as thin as possible. There's a wide spectrum from optimal performance to optimal portability.
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Nov 4, 2016 18:04
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I'd be happiest if apple adopted a business model much like juice shop. you should be able to pick a size and scoop as much computer juice into it was u like
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Nov 4, 2016 18:05
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Mu Zeta posted:1st gen products always sucks, especially Apple's. The first Air was a travesty with the closed hinge that covered up the ports. I would take the bomber-hatch again if they'd give me my ports back. How far I've fallen. 
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Nov 4, 2016 18:06
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The air doesn't make sense now since laptops are so thin. Two lines for all: MacBook and MacBook Pro iPad (reg and mini) iPad Pro (Reg and mini) iPhone and + Daaaaaats it
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Nov 4, 2016 18:07
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mods just gas the thread
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Nov 4, 2016 18:08
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so did the hatch just break of instantly or what? for everyone's huge 'STEVE WOULD NEVER ALLOW THIS' whinges, the hatch is kind of a glaring example of crap design he pushed out.
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Pivo gas ur cat(s).
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