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overdesigned posted:Synced Turret requires a target lock to attack, which sort of brings it back down to earth a bit. I think it'll be good, but not great? Have to have the lock, but don't need to spend it. Anyone that can pass off a target lock is looking like a decent wingman for anyone else carrying this turret. .
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I think their strategy of getting the K-wing out early is working since everything else won't look like as lovely in comparison. The wookiee gunship looks like a great command and conquer hovercraft though.
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Mar 15, 2017 15:39
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On the bright side, I guess they finally figured out how to do the Y-wing "switch all power to front deflector screens."
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Unguided Rockets basically gives TIE Bombers a 3 dice primary that ignores range 3 agility bonuses. Seems not terrible.
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Strobe posted:Unguided Rockets basically gives TIE Bombers a 3 dice primary that ignores range 3 agility bonuses. Seems not terrible.
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Strobe posted:Unguided Rockets basically gives TIE Bombers a 3 dice primary that ignores range 3 agility bonuses. Seems not terrible. And TIE Punisher lol
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Strobe posted:Unguided Rockets basically gives TIE Bombers a 3 dice primary that ignores range 3 agility bonuses. Seems not terrible. Eh. Flechette torps did much the same with the added benefit of providing stress, for the same cost. I fly DeathFire a lot and his loadout is: Flechette Torp Extra Munitions Connor Net (Optional) Lightweight Frame Total: 25-27 points I'm not sure that Unguided Rockets are better. Sure they're unlimited use but how often does a TIE Bomber really get more than two shots at range 2-3? It's a sidegrade at best. You lose the stress but you just need a focus to fire them, not a lock.
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ConfusedUs posted:Eh. Flechette torps did much the same with the added benefit of providing stress, for the same cost.
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Tekopo posted:It's 2 points versus 4 for a flechette with extra munitions. It's worth it for that alone. I guess if you're not going to run any other bombs or torps it's better, but why would you do that? Just run a better ship at that point.
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ConfusedUs posted:I guess if you're not going to run any other bombs or torps it's better, but why would you do that? Just run a better ship at that point. EDIT: Really, it's just good on Tomax to be fair. There's still little point in taking low-PS bombers, it's pointless on Rhymer, and Deathfire probably wants EM anyway. Might be decent on Jonus though, although he's a better TIE Shuttle anyway. Tekopo fucked around with this message at 16:16 on Mar 15, 2017 |
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You can run five bombers with Unguided Rockets and Lightweight Frame lol.
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Strobe posted:You can run five bombers with Unguided Rockets and Lightweight Frame lol. I could run five interceptors with autothrusters too. Doesn't make it good. 
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BOMBERS BOMBERS 97 points PILOTS Major Rhymer (37) TIE Bomber (26), Advanced Proton Torpedoes (6), Extra Munitions (2), Veteran Instincts (1), Lightweight Frame (2) Tomax Bren (29) TIE Bomber (24), Crack Shot (1), Unguided Rockets (2), Lightweight Frame (2) Omicron Group Pilot (31) Lambda-Class Shuttle (21), Advanced Sensors (3), General Hux (5), Systems Officer (2) View: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/view/674331/bombers Tweak: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/build/674331 XWS: http://xwing-builder.co.uk/xws/674331 The meta of the future, ladies and gents.
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Yeah, I've been tweaking some Hux lists, myself. Nothing that I'd say is spectacular, yet. Mostly I've been riffing on this formula: Major Stridan (32) General Hux (5) "Pure Sabacc" (22) Adaptability (0) Lightweight Frame (2) Adaptive Ailerons (0) "Echo" (30) Veteran Instincts (1) Fire-Control System (2) Agent Kallus (2) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) Total: 100 I want to play this because I think Echo might be something fun that I've never flown before. I love ships with crazy re-position options.
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I'm seriously considering taking Echo, Whisper, and Dutchess to a store thing this weekend, just to make every turn take 10 minutes and have my brain fry from the wealth of movement options.
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enigmahfc posted:I'm seriously considering taking Echo, Whisper, and Dutchess to a store thing this weekend, just to make every turn take 10 minutes and have my brain fry from the wealth of movement options. How are you fitting Duchess in with both Phantom aces? With their standard kits you'll have less than 20 points left. You gotta be compromising on something...
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enigmahfc posted:I'm seriously considering taking Echo, Whisper, and Dutchess to a store thing this weekend, just to make every turn take 10 minutes and have my brain fry from the wealth of movement options. Something like this? "Whisper" (32) Veteran Instincts (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) "Echo" (30) Veteran Instincts (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) "Duchess" (23) Expertise (4) Adaptive Ailerons (0) Total: 99 View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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Some Numbers posted:Something like this? Those are indeed some bare-bones phantoms. I'd strongly consider dropping Expertise (in favor of Trick Shot or Adaptability) and adding some combination of fire control systems and crew to the phantoms. Think of FCS as a defensive upgrade on the Phantoms: it lets them evade without sacrificing offense. Especially on Whisper, who is likely to come out of most attacks with an extra focus. Intel Agent(s) are super useful on Echo, who is squirrely enough to make the best use of it. Agent Kallus is another good all-around crew for a Phantom.
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ConfusedUs posted:Those are indeed some bare-bones phantoms. I was thinking about that, but I wanted to get some value out of Duchess' EPT. This is probably better. "Whisper" (32) Veteran Instincts (1) Fire-Control System (2) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) "Echo" (30) Veteran Instincts (1) Intelligence Agent (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) "Duchess" (23) A Score to Settle (0) Lightweight Frame (2) Adaptive Ailerons (0) Total: 100 View in Yet Another Squad Builder
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I was thinking this, because why the hell not. The Phantom Annoyance "Duchess" (23) Adaptability (0) Adaptive Ailerons (0) "Whisper" (32) Veteran Instincts (1) Fire-Control System (2) Intelligence Agent (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) "Echo" (30) Veteran Instincts (1) Collision Detector (0) Intelligence Agent (1) Advanced Cloaking Device (4) Total: 99
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enigmahfc posted:I was thinking this, because why the hell not. Yeah that's not bad!
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Need some opinons on what to fly at a local store tournament this weekend. I don't get a lot of practice games in so I hardly ever get to "test" lists. I want to go Rebel with some sort of combo of the following ships/pilots: Kanan Dash Rey Cassian Norra Here are a couple of combos I was thinking of: Rebel Sandwitch: Cassian (35) -Tactical jammer -Title -Rage -FCS -Inspiring Recruit -Kyle Katarn Kanan (48) -Tactical Jammer -FCS -Autoblaster Turret -Rey -Recon Specialist Captain Rex (17) -Sabine's Masterpiece -Jan Ors Played this with some other jank lists and it was fun. The idea is to keep Rex laying down fire (I suck at trying to make this work) while Cassian/Kanan pass tokens around as needed with the Jan/Kyle/Recon/Rey combo. Rey/Cassian: Rey (62) -EU -Expertise -Finn -Kanan Cassian (38) -EU -Title -Rage -FCS -Ezra -Inspring Recruit Norra more, Mr. Nice Guy: Dash (58) -EU -Title -PTL -Heavy Laser Cannon -Kanan Norra (42) -Vectored Thrusters -Title -Expertise -C3PO -R2D2
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Speaking of Rebel Jank, I flew a very close variant of that Hera/Ahsoka list that went 2nd at Yavin. https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f...t%20Shenanigans This list is incredibly fun to fly and incredibly unfun to fly against. The combo of Hera/Navigator, plus boost, plus the option to take an action (including a boost) at start of combat if Ahsoka is close enough, plus intel agent...it means you really should never get shot. And if you do, okay? You got 16 health and at least one evade token. Basic strat goes: Read board, decide if you think you'll need to either go straight/bank or k-turn/hard turn. Dial in a green move for the former and a red for the later. Change with Hera/Navigator if board state changes before reveal. Evade, or boost out of arcs. Use Ahsoka to give Hera an extra action. LANDO if you you've already evaded and a boost won't help, or if you've somehow got into a position where you'll be eating multiple attacks. TLT something to death. Repeat.
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ConfusedUs posted:Speaking of Rebel Jank, I flew a very close variant of that Hera/Ahsoka list that went 2nd at Yavin. Dumb noob question: in a lot of these "keep Phantom docked and turret things to death" lists like this one. I see Chopper on the Phantom. Since it never deploys, what's the purpose on this? His ability can't be used on Ghost while docked, right? Is this just insurance in case things go horribly wrong and you need to undock Phantom?
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The shorthand is that revealing a green lets you end up on any straight or bank, while any red lets you choose any hard turn or the k turn. Some examples: Reveal green two straight. Hera to green one left bank. Navigator to any other left bank. Reveal red three right turn. Hera to red one left turn. Navigate to white two left turn. Reveal green one straight. Navigate to white four forward. Don't use Hera at all.
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And yeah. Chopper is just there cuz he's free.
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head58 posted:Dumb noob question: in a lot of these "keep Phantom docked and turret things to death" lists like this one. I see Chopper on the Phantom. Since it never deploys, what's the purpose on this? His ability can't be used on Ghost while docked, right? Is this just insurance in case things go horribly wrong and you need to undock Phantom? Yeah, he's zero points so why not? If you need to undock the shuttle, you can pop out with a K Turn and then take a damage to take an action
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ConfusedUs posted:The shorthand is that revealing a green lets you end up on any straight or bank, while any red lets you choose any hard turn or the k turn. Got it, thanks!
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The panic about torpedo boats returning to scum with the H-6 is glorious.  It would be pretty funny if the PS3 carried an EPT slot for either mindlink or deadeye though.
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Chill la Chill posted:The panic about torpedo boats returning to scum with the H-6 is glorious. So, good news. It does.
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The PS3 version will (Almost certainly) be two points more expensive than the Contracted Scout, however, and there aren't any great 3 point options for missiles. One or two loaded out will certainly be deadly, but it looks like it'll be just too expensive to properly emulate classic U-Boat lists.
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No, it won't work. U-boats had huge arcs and could slowly bump into each other so had ridiculous control of its tempo. I'm just laughing that people are already panicking about it returning.
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And unless I'm missing something, there's no way to get the salvaged astromech slot on all of them that was the lynchpin for giving triple U-Boats their near-perfect modification on munition dice. Without (pre-nerf) R4 Agromech or Overclocked R4, torps are very much at the mercy of what-you-roll-is-what-you-get.
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Is that Wookiee ship from Episode 3? And allow me to express my complete lack of surprise that some EU-authoring dimwit made a new TIE by taking an Advanced and slapping an Interceptor's wings on it, backwards. But, like, it has a prong where the Interceptor is open, and vice versa, so it's double-backwards.
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SuperKlaus posted:Is that Wookiee ship from Episode 3? And allow me to express my complete lack of surprise that some EU-authoring dimwit made a new TIE by taking an Advanced and slapping an Interceptor's wings on it, backwards. But, like, it has a prong where the Interceptor is open, and vice versa, so it's double-backwards. Wookiee ship is from Rebels, Aggressor is from a video game. X-Wing Alliance, IIRC.
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