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Yeah, again it's a decent page given the author. Although I will say that even if I won't nitpick, I'm still going to laugh at things like this:
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Fake Spirit Shepherd con artist ruining the reputation of the real ones, protagonist does something about it. That would make for a decent short story. Bit clichee and it suffers from the usual Mookie style black and white morality, but it's miles ahead of Snout and he's not trying to tackle stuff that's way beyond his comprehension.
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Apr 3, 2024 08:31
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Move over OG Jacob, there's a new 'best character in the comic' in town.
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Apr 3, 2024 09:39
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Tesseraction posted:Yeah, again it's a decent page given the author. Although I will say that even if I won't nitpick, I'm still going to laugh at things like this: 
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Apr 3, 2024 16:19
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This is the best page mookie has ever done. It's almost startling
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I think this story (or at least this section of the story) is better at least partially because it doesn't have a ton of baggage. OG Legacy was locked to Snout's POV, which Mookie wasn't really equipped to handle, and the one character who had a specific motivation and moved the plot along was dependent on the reader having been present during Mookie's WoW RP sessions. Makena's chapter was obligated to include a bunch of kickstarter characters, and the protagonist was again one of Mookie's roleplaying characters that the readers had no previous knowledge of or attachment to. The dwarf stuff also seemed to require the reader to be familiar with all the worldbuilding he did on Patreon (apparently Cresca's mom was in the Deegan epilogue comics he did there?), while also telling a story about social issues that Mookie's never personally experienced. The new chapter has no RP characters with years of backstory (that we know of), no paywalled worldbuilding, no kickstarter obligations, and no arbitrary storytelling restrictions that are outside Mookie's wheelhouse. We know who the characters are, and what their conflict will be. This is Mookie unshackled, at the height of his powers with complete storytelling freedom.
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Apr 3, 2024 18:44
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Let’s see if he can keep it up.
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It's taken a long, long time but he has achieved true mediocrity.
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Those facial expressions are upsetting and I can't work out why
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Robot Style posted:I think this story (or at least this section of the story) is better at least partially because it doesn't have a ton of baggage. I think the big thing is he set up a real conflict here - between the person who can see ghosts and the person who pretends. You have an actual thing to point to where things can go wrong. We don’t yet have a hook, but you can see how one could come. This highlights the weakness in Mookie’s refusal to plan out his story though. The introduction was fumbled, there was no set up for the plot there, and the whole listless character who has to explain everything is really clunky. Things came together when be introduced the antagonist. This one feels more exciting to critique because the stuff he’s given us is something you can work with.
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This is easily the best story Mookie has set up in ages and I am excited to see him gently caress it up. I mean it also helps that I feel like a lot of the heavy lifting has been done by IRL. Like making your villain a Nazi/Neo-Nazi as a way to avoid having to establish their villainy and knowing that it is enough to make the audience hate them. Or was, thee days not so much lol. Lmao, even. But, like, yeah. Those fake psychics are the worst and just predatory parasites who prey on people at their lowest. This guy works as a villain and charlatan because most of the heavy liting has already been done by IRL context/knowledge we all have, rather than Mookie being skillful. Like, it's not anything Mookie did right so much as stuff Theresa Caputo, John Edwards, and others did wrong. And I'm confident he'll still somehow gently caress it up.
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I'm fairly impressed, shocked even, by this development. We know, from years of reading his poo poo, that Mookie is incapable of guile or coming up with a way to convincingly deceive other people on his own. That means he went out and did actual, no poo poo research on cold reading. He wanted to include something he was unfamiliar with in a story and learned about it. Even if it was just scanning the Wikipedia page that's more than he's done for any story or concept before this.
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Dabir posted:Those facial expressions are upsetting and I can't work out why I'm upset more by the total lack of faces in the first panel
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Softface posted:I'm fairly impressed, shocked even, by this development. We know, from years of reading his poo poo, that Mookie is incapable of guile or coming up with a way to convincingly deceive other people on his own. That means he went out and did actual, no poo poo research on cold reading. He wanted to include something he was unfamiliar with in a story and learned about it. Even if it was just scanning the Wikipedia page that's more than he's done for any story or concept before this. You're assuming he didn't just stumble upon that in a random youtube video he happened to watch or something
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Robot Style posted:I think this story (or at least this section of the story) is better at least partially because it doesn't have a ton of baggage. The latest Kickstarter did also include mongrel cameos so we'll see what story they end up being in (3 sold)
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Dabir posted:You're assuming he didn't just stumble upon that in a random youtube video he happened to watch or something Or maybe he just remembered that one South Park episode on the topic.
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I am not hating this potential skeptic vs believer protagonist set-up, even if one's objectively wrong. Fun reversal of real life 
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he watched mob psycho 100 and the con-artist will be the hero
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a cartoon duck posted:he watched mob psycho 100 and the con-artist will be the hero Nah, this dude puts in effort, and has probably learned and studied. He's a bad guy. Maybe if he was just naturally good at talking and also everything came to him, then we'd be talking! Also it just occurred to me how wild it is that Mookie, an artist, is portraying a guy who takes money for his work as being evil and someone else who as good because she does it for free.
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Apr 4, 2024 08:56
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Being fair the guy who's taking money is just telling people what they want to hear rather than what their dead ancestors actually said.
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Tesseraction posted:Being fair the guy who's taking money is just telling people what they want to hear rather than what their dead ancestors actually said. The implication so far is that his spirit isn't even there, yeah. It's potentially all in her head - might be even more upsetting for her to find out her father died without any regrets for how he treated her  Spirit shepherds having a secret community who go around collecting communal funds from people who are only haunted by their own troubles, so the actual spirit shepherds can work with spirits directly while still being able to function, could be an interesting morally grey concept. It's totally a scam taking advantage of emotional people and their trauma, sure. But if it helps people heal from that trauma and live happier lives, while also keeping the actual spirit shepherds housed, clothed and fed so they can do their work for free no matter where they are... Pyrotoad fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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Heliotrope posted:Nah, this dude puts in effort, and has probably learned and studied. Aha, definitely a villain then.
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Eh, I'm fine with this guy being the villain when he's so clearly based on real-life "psychics" who toy with clients' emotions for fame and money. I've had zero respect for them as a whole ever since a psychic told some parents that their missing child was dead but it's fine because her ghost is at peace, and then it turned out a decade or two later their daughter was still alive. I would even argue that given the nature of this setting, con artists might cause even more damage considering that ghosts and the afterlife provably exist. What if one of them manages to completely gently caress up some guy's final wishes and ends up prolonging his haunted existence? That's probably where this is headed anyway if the estranged dad actually does appear as a ghost and the protagonist has to help him. That being said I wouldn't be surprised if this conflict also leans into the pattern of heroes who simply have cool powers with little to no effort versus villains who dragged themselves to power and still can't compete. MiracleFlare fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 4, 2024 |
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MiracleFlare posted:provably 'Mavpel' has apparently hosed me up, because this actual, real word caught me up and I had to reread it a few times before I realised how it was supposed to be. I like how Mookie finally has something that isn't awful, and we can't help but hold our breath waiting for him to gently caress it up. Honestly, I kinda hope he manages to pull of something semi-competent, even if I wouldn't put money on it.
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rudecyrus posted:c'mon, we all know Mookie will spoil this somehow Yes, which is why we don't need to pre-declare this guy is actually a good guy in advance. Let Mookie cook.
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No one is saying Captain Coldread did nothing wrong, it's just very silly for it to be a dichotomy between him and the selfless maiden who wanders around randomly looking for ghosts to ascend while having no other needs or concerns.
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I think a lot of it comes down to "nobody would really be ragging on this if Mookie didn't have a long-established habit of making people who work for things and put effort into their jobs villains, as opposed to protagonists, who are entitled to gently caress around because they're virtuous and therefore naturally talented." It's the pattern that people mock rather than any given instance of it.
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So her dad doesn't actually forgive her, I guess. How does real!Shepherd get this guy to move on in a way different from con-man here? Like, she'll get there and see a ghost dad flinging rocks at his daughter and his side of the story will change things somehow? Also I didn't comment before but the previous page was definitely one of the most interesting in all of DD, and it's hilarious that Mookie will never, ever get it.
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There’s room for an interesting twist here, he read the situation wrong (though the client didn’t notice) and the issue is something else But that might require planning ahead.
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Dad's a dick to wait until she paid the fake psychic to reveal it didn't work
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Maxwell Lord posted:There’s room for an interesting twist here, he read the situation wrong (though the client didn’t notice) and the issue is something else
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Dauuughter. Daughterrrrrrrr. Arrange the rocks in size order or I'll never forgive youuuuuuuu.
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what if the ghost is right to be a controlling rear end in a top hat he could be a heroic controlling rear end in a top hat
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Maxwell Lord posted:There’s room for an interesting twist here, he read the situation wrong (though the client didn’t notice) and the issue is something else It would be funny if conman spirit shepherd does actually solve things half the time and makes lingering spirits move on just because he's good at reading social cues and actually figures out the problem, even with lacking actual necromantic powers. Like if he had read this situation right, would there be anything holding dadghost to the material world?
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Or Mookie will do the least obvious thing, and this isn't even dadghost, it's just some random rear end in a top hat that moved in.
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