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teethgrinder posted:Anyone have thoughts on the new Seabound? It's good. Not as good as Double Crosser, but there's no bad Seabound.
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The Cleaner posted:What would you say was the best/most memorable thing you guys have ever seen at an industrial show? Best: Einsturzende Neubauten touring for Ende Neu at the Rave in Milwaukee. I managed to get right up in front, against the metal security barrier. Worst: Einsturzende Neubauten touring for Silence is Sexy at the Metro in Chicago. Blixa kept getting mad that people were talking during the quiet parts of the songs, which prompted some drunk guy to start antagonizing the band and being a dick. Also, Blixa was apparently mad at his guitarist that night (Alexander Haack was playing bass at this point). Lotta bad energy. All around disaster, embarrassing to watch.
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Feb 13, 2014 12:31
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Best industrial show ... hard to say! I guess I appreciate a good light show. Seabound does the laser thing which suits the music. The lighting was great when I saw FLA & m.i.a.b together: ] Guess I love silhouettes. Worst I'd say was some band did this weird thing about eating rotten food out of a box marked "Monsanto". But to be serious, I think the worst was an early show of KMFDM's modern stable line-up, around 2003. I love guitars in my electro-industrial, but it was just way too loving loud, and had a bland boring sound through every song. Barely any samples or electronics the entire show. It also wrecked my hearing for three days and I've worn earplugs to every show since. (Same line-up, KMFDM were so much better the last time I saw them, a few years ago.) Also bad was Imperative Reaction the last time I saw them. The band was great (and I loved the lighting again!), but there was something like 20 people in the crowd, if that. Kudos to them for still playing an awesome show, but the energy in the room was totally non-existent.  LabyaMynora posted:It's good. Not as good as Double Crosser, but there's no bad Seabound. I'm a little bit hung up on some of the Project Pitchfork-like weird engrishisms like "keep up the pretends". There's a song with literal lyrics about a plane crashing into a carnival and killing all the clowns ha. Finally the last track ... "instead of an angle" he's singing about a spiral. teethgrinder fucked around with this message at 14:30 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 13:51
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edit: you know what, I feel bad comparing the new Seabound album to Double-Crosser. The new album is worth listening to and feels very consistent and well-produced throughout. The Escape is probably my favorite track but I think I was also primed to like it because of the Dependence compilation.
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Feb 13, 2014 14:01
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Were you comparing it in a negative way? I loving love Double-Crosser. Especially the way it builds throughout until the spectacular end of Breathe. It's the most cohesive thing they've done. It's hard for me to judge No Sleep Demon objectively now because I just thought it was the most amazing thing at the time and place. Hell, it's what really got me into "futurepop" (or whatever the gently caress you want to call it) in the first place. Beyond Flatline has great songs on it, possibly my very favourites. Nothing on it is bad, but from one song to another it's a bit uneven.
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Feb 13, 2014 14:23
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Nah it's just that Double-Crosser was such a great album, and my original phrasing was I think "It's not Double-Crosser, but..." which is sort of unfair to say. I'd prefer to just say how I feel about it and then other people can listen to it and make their own judgment without preconceived comparisons. Having said that I definitely didn't notice the lyrics about the plane and the carnival 
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Feb 13, 2014 14:31
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The Cleaner posted:What would you say was the best/most memorable thing you guys have ever seen at an industrial show? Best: The first time I saw Project Pitchfork live at Zita Rock 2009. The sun was shining clear in the sky the whole day through and it was insanely hot, and I was kind of exhausted already at that point and had no idea what to expect from PP since I'd never seen them live or listened to much of them yet. Then the Dream, Tiresias! intro starts playing and the If I Could beat begins, and Peter marches onto the stage and along the big rear end catwalk thing protruding a good five-six-seven meters into the audience with just the biggest grin ever on his face. And then entire crowd went nuts and started dancing and moshing like crazy. Love at first sight  Other favorite moments: The first time I saw Rammstein live was amazing, especially the Mein Teil cauldron and flamethrower bit blew my loving mind (the second show I saw last year was great as well but it just wasn't as exciting as the first time. My mom agreed v  v), and the chat I had with Ayria's members after Pitchfork's show in Leipzig. Such a lovely bunch of people  Least favorite thing: Probably some of the people at Amphi Festival 2010, especially the dancers who pushed their way into the middle of a completely packed crowd, shoved people around so they'd have the five square meters necessary for their dumbass industrial dancing for themselves, and who then proceeded to whip people in the face with their cyberlocks or whatever when dancing. THEN they have the audacity to get mad at people who tell them to go somewhere where they won't piss everyone off and where they'd actually have space to dance because everyone else in the immediate area just wants to mosh and jump around a bit? I didn't say anything to them since it happened a couple of meters away, but jesus christ what a bunch of rude idiots. Why are people so rude at concerts <  >
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Feb 13, 2014 14:56
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Best: Covenant at Das Bunker in September 2012. The energy these guys had was amazing. They went on for two whole hours. I had to step off the floor in the middle it was so crowded and I was overheating. I don't know how they did it. Worst: Combichrist in... 2010? In LA. They did alright but the sound was messed up and they played all their hits early. Nobody cares about some forgotten song about banging cyber-school girls or whatever CC writes about. I left after they played Get Your Body Beat and so did a bunch of other people.
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Feb 13, 2014 15:01
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This poster loves police brutality, but only when its against minorities!
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All my most memorable moments are from shows I was in some way involved in. I booked it or I DJed or played or whatever. For a show I wasn’t in any way involved in, probably Coil at Mutek. It wasn’t any one thing in particular, it was more of a holy-poo poo-it’s-loving-COIL overwhelming experience. That or seeing Pigface in Albany, and Martin Atkins did a drum solo that was so fast his arms were literally a blur. I didn’t know that could actually happen, that someone could move so fast that they were actually a blur. I have never seen anyone drum that fast before or since. He actually had to pause the show and do a bit of stand-up at the mic because one of his arms went numb for ten minutes after. Worst? God I don’t know. I’ve seen so many terrible shows. Probably an electro-industrial act I saw once where their backing video software crashed during the show and you could see all the songs were MP3s loaded in a winamp playlist.
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Feb 13, 2014 20:19
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The Cleaner posted:What would you say was the best/most memorable thing you guys have ever seen at an industrial show? Hard to pick the best, but the worst is definitely Nazis. Edit: haha, I was thinking about a 5f-x show as the best, where they were dressed in weird outfits, and one of them spent the entire set wandering through the crowd brandishing a ray-gun/antenna thing rather than being onstage. Just not taking the whole ~industrial scene~ thing seriously. I went looking on youtube and found a video of them that Twiin apparently put up in 2007! Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Feb 13, 2014 |
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Feb 13, 2014 20:46
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Hard to pick the best, but the worst is definitely Nazis. Hahaha from Maschinenfest! That was a great show. It totally changed my opinion about how 'live' a show needs to be. As long as you're doing something compelling to entertain everyone, who cares?
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Feb 13, 2014 21:05
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hatelull posted:I don't really understand what you are trying to say here. I mean, like, most industrial shows I've gone to are pretty much just regular concerts. Maybe the dress is a little different, or you see the Cruxshadows and Rogue does some goofy stuff because that's who he is, but mostly it's still just a band on stage and some flashing lights. Skinny Puppy had a lot of weird props, visuals, and outfits and poo poo going on, and it felt to me like I was in some late 90's movie version of a cyberpunk club. I think that's what I meant, that it was a lot weirder and cooler, more performance art than just playing songs, and if I showed it to my mom she would have been like "yes, this is the satanic hell bus i figured it would be", when most of the goth/industrial shows and clubs I go to are just regular people, albeit dressed in more black.
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ANAmal.net posted:I mean, like, most industrial shows I've gone to are pretty much just regular concerts. Maybe the dress is a little different, or you see the Cruxshadows and Rogue does some goofy stuff because that's who he is, but mostly it's still just a band on stage and some flashing lights. Welle: Erdball put on a really good show. Patenbrigade: Wolff too. In both cases, there's a band on stage, but they really act up and entertain the crowd and (in the case of P:W) goof around a lot. But I suppose industrial bands I've seen don't really compare to some Big Deal pop acts I've seen who can have ridiculous OTT stage sets and gimmicks like arriving down from the venue roof on top of their own logo, then using said suspended logo midway through the gig to travel out over the audience to a second stage in the middle of the crowd. That was pretty cool. I think the industrial bands that work really well on stage, for me, are the ones that go all the way to play up to their own image. So the two previously mentioned ones, Nitzer Ebb, Laibach - the kind of bands who are utterly unmistakable live and don't really break character. Kraftwerk were amazing, but then they're Kraftwerk and have spent years perfecting their live show.
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Feb 13, 2014 21:29
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Twiin posted:Hahaha from Maschinenfest! That was a great show. It totally changed my opinion about how 'live' a show needs to be. As long as you're doing something compelling to entertain everyone, who cares?
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Feb 13, 2014 22:32
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Hard to pick the best, but the worst is definitely Nazis. So out of curiosity a friend and me went down to a free show and stayed for a few minutes. There were people I recognized, like one of the goth club DJs, walking around in full blackshirt attire. It was like one of those movies where everyone in the village is in on a dark conspiracy.
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Feb 13, 2014 22:53
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What the gently caress is "neo-folk" anyway?
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Feb 13, 2014 23:06
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Halloween Jack posted:What the gently caress is "neo-folk" anyway? It's totally not fascist, except when it is, and even then you're just forcing a label on them, man.
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^ Yup.Halloween Jack posted:What the gently caress is "neo-folk" anyway? In a nutshell, after WW2 the far right splintered into a million pieces. Some groups tried to reform themselves into friendly fascists ("we're not Nazis, we're national patriots" etc.); others turned into a parody of the Third Reich with swastika tattoos -- the whole nine yards. Neofolk emerged as the musical expression of a third splinter, where you had the brainier and depressive types saying "all is lost, the dream is dead. We're doomed." And they argued that one should disengage politically, retreat inwards, cultivate an "aristocracy of the soul," drink wine and put up candelabras in your apartment and sing wistful songs about Europe on the decline. It's like lifestyle Nazism. Think of it like the reverse mirror opposite of Nazi hate rock. Where hate rock is vulgar, populist and openly bigoted -- but also hides itself -- the concerts are held in basements and kept secret, neofolk is sophisticated and elitist, but hides in plain sight. You wouldn't get what they were singing about if you weren't read up on esoteric Nazis like Julius Evola. It just sounds "artsy." But some of it is more explicit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8jk5v8NCNo
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Feb 14, 2014 01:34
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I knew that was a Death in June link before I clicked.
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Feb 14, 2014 01:39
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Halloween Jack posted:What the gently caress is "neo-folk" anyway? If industrial (nachtmahr )got the fascist look, neo-folk got the ideology. It's pretty hard to find a good neo-folk band that doesn't eventually wind up talking about, ex, "a strong storm from the west, uniting mother europa" or some horrible coded nonsense.
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Feb 14, 2014 04:43
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So now that I know all my (and Mick Mercer's) prejudice against it was totally justified, can anyone explain why it's so goddamned boring?
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Feb 14, 2014 06:08
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Because it's made by the kind of people who are about 50 years too late to refer to music with a backbeat as "Negro music"?
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Feb 14, 2014 06:17
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Twiin posted:so many terrible shows. Probably an electro-industrial act I saw once where their backing video software crashed during the show and you could see all the songs were MP3s loaded in a winamp playlist. Bahaha.. wow that's.. amazing. All the neo-folk Nazism aside, I think you win. teethgrinder posted:Worst I'd say was some band did this weird thing about eating rotten food out of a box marked "Monsanto" Dunno if I said this but originally it was going to have fish-pumps and all this foaming swirling liquid and crazy mad-scientist aesthetic. Then I realized it was LEAKING water everywhere, so we toned it down to practically nothing last minute. I mean, imagine seeing some sparks on the stage, then some equipment and outlets blow out. Then the club owner comes out and says: "Sorry but LEGEND can't play tonight because those 9000 retards flooded the loving stage"
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Feb 14, 2014 20:44
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boo_radley posted:If industrial (nachtmahr )got the fascist look, neo-folk got the ideology. It's pretty hard to find a good neo-folk band that doesn't eventually wind up talking about, ex, "a strong storm from the west, uniting mother europa" or some horrible coded nonsense. Yeah, when you get towards the more martial side of neo-folk, things can get a bit dodgy. So just listen to Volk by Laibach basically, if you want martial music about Europe. Edit: Holy poo poo, Test Dept are putting on some kind of installation that you watch from a boat on the Tyne. Danger - Octopus! fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Feb 14, 2014 |
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Feb 14, 2014 21:10
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Danger - Octopus! posted:Edit: Holy poo poo, Test Dept are putting on some kind of installation that you watch from a boat on the Tyne. I just can't not adore these guys.
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Anybody know what the music the hacker dude/McPoyle is playing during Season 2 Ep 10 of House of Cards? Can't find it anywhere. Very ATR.
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Feb 18, 2014 14:59
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magiccarpet posted:Anybody know what the music the hacker dude/McPoyle is playing during Season 2 Ep 10 of House of Cards? Can't find it anywhere. Very ATR. I wondered the same thing. Sounded like weird gabber.
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Feb 18, 2014 15:06
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Has Flint Glass been up to anything recently (last three years)? I haven't seen anything, but hope he is. Hierakonpolis and Nyarlathotep are some of my favorite albums, but it's been a while.
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Feb 19, 2014 03:50
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In a weird turn, I got turned into a hand model for the local club: I was drinking a "blu glo" which is about as sophisticated as it sounds.
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A buncha bands that no one really cares that much about are playing before the usual AnalogueTrash night in Manchester (UK) this Saturday. https://www.facebook.com/events/381649715303850/ I'm going anyway cos 'Trash init. That said I'm pretty sure I'll be able to count the number of times I've seen Deviant UK in double digits after this weekend, oh boy. [edit] New GodMod CD is out, haven't listened to it yet. [edit] Man that first track is the worst thing on the CD, don't know why that's there at all. The whole thing could happily be the 2nd CD of Empath in my opinion. I know a lot of people stopped liking anything GodMod past that. I'm not one of them, I think it's a shame. It feels a bit paint-by-numbers and somehow rushed. Oh well, it's not terrible if you want a bit more of the same. Babby Sathanas fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Feb 19, 2014 |
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Feb 19, 2014 04:39
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Noricae posted:Has Flint Glass been up to anything recently (last three years)? I haven't seen anything, but hope he is. Hierakonpolis and Nyarlathotep are some of my favorite albums, but it's been a while. He's got a project with Empusae going. Tzolk'in, I think?
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Feb 19, 2014 05:43
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Twiin posted:I wondered the same thing. Sounded like weird gabber. Yeah, sounded like gabber.
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I DJed an industrial/noise set on Valentine's Day and recorded it, if y'all are into that kind of thing. Featuring 3 TEETH, Kanga, Spoek Mathambo, Melt-Banana, A Tribe Called Red, Architect, and more! Check it out on the Mixclouds!
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Anyone else listen to Tom Shear's Surveillance Indiegogo project yet? I kind of ...hated it from the Bandcamp post. But either it's grown on me significantly on my second listen, or the FLAC download sounds a hell of a lot better than the stream. (I'm not one typically to notice a huge difference between digital music qualities, but the synth sounds sounded horribly chintzy to me originally, like the most anaemic of softsynths.) The lyrics are a big heavy-handed for my tastes, but the sound and music is pretty drat solid. Love the Depeche Mode-vibe in the verses of Thoughtcrime. Twiin posted:I DJed an industrial/noise set on Valentine's Day and recorded it, if y'all are into that kind of thing. Featuring 3 TEETH, Kanga, Spoek Mathambo, Melt-Banana, A Tribe Called Red, Architect, and more! Check it out on the Mixclouds!
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Twiin posted:I DJed an industrial/noise set on Valentine's Day and recorded it, if y'all are into that kind of thing. Featuring 3 TEETH, Kanga, Spoek Mathambo, Melt-Banana, A Tribe Called Red, Architect, and more! Check it out on the Mixclouds! What did you do to ian curtis, twiin? Or is that a cover? Also where is the playlist because we need a playlist. Seriously, this is 1000x better than the combichrist cookie cutter hot nonsense we got for our vday clubbing.
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boo_radley posted:What did you do to ian curtis, twiin? Or is that a cover? That's Spoek Mathambo! The video is amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKfwSFI8LhQ There's a 'show playlist' button there, but the interface isn't great. I'll paste it here: quote:1. Baal by Soma
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Twiin posted:That's Spoek Mathambo! The video is amazing. Augh, this is fantastic. Clicking around related links brought me to this, which reminds me of Tetsuo for its lo-fi cyber-futurism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX8USzx0prE
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The Cleaner posted:What would you say was the best/most memorable thing you guys have ever seen at an industrial show? Most memorable was Censor headbanging, busting his head on his laptop, and then continuing to headbang spraying blood all over the photos on the gallery's walls.  Worst was seeing Kompressor live. He a CD player and a distortion pedal and a mic. And the distortion pedal broke. And it was daylight saving time, so the bar was closing early and he had to skip a bunch of tracks on his CD player. Then he got winded and sat down while he sand the rest of the songs.
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Feb 21, 2014 15:34
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Zyklon B Zombie posted:Worst was seeing Kompressor live. He a CD player and a distortion pedal and a mic. And the distortion pedal broke. And it was daylight saving time, so the bar was closing early and he had to skip a bunch of tracks on his CD player. Then he got winded and sat down while he sand the rest of the songs. That is almost like another layer of performance art on top of everything.
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Twiin posted:That is almost like another layer of performance art on top of everything. Seriously, are you sure that wasn't on purpose?
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