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Mrenda posted:(The competition winning screen/trophy presentation, spoilered in case you want to see it first in your own save.) Also: Wizard Styles posted:I want to be the god king of set pieces   Easily my worst center back but he keeps finding his way into the team because that 18 Jumping Reach does so much work. 9 goals in 31 games.  The board wants entertaining football, but they will learn to love corner kick/penalty hattricks the way I do. e: my rear end man understands 
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Took over as Bolton manager and already fuming at the absolute shite the previous manager signed that I now can't get rid of without upsetting the entire team
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Nov 27, 2020 12:44
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Wizard Styles posted:drat, that looks Irish. Not with that many fans in the ground...
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Nov 27, 2020 12:54
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Wizard Styles posted:They definitely last 3 weeks. I just went with that 3 week rotation I outlined because there are three of the light blue sessions to cycle through (Attacking Movement, Defensive Positioning, Teamwork) so that just happened naturally and it keeps all boosts going. The boosts might last even longer but I never tested that because I have never strayed from my setup. Can't say natural fitness is ever something I've cared about.
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Nov 27, 2020 14:59
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sassassin posted:Can't say natural fitness is ever something I've cared about.
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Nov 27, 2020 15:15
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They say there's no such thing as a perfect player, but... It says left back but he's a left-footed centre half with 18 Determination. Holy grail.
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Nov 27, 2020 15:18
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I should probably spend some time on tactics. Maybe when I decide on a proper, challenging save. At the moment I'm still playing my beta Arsenal save, but being a big Premier league team is too easy. Last season we went unbeaten in the league, hit 100 points and only conceded 7 league goals. I can count on United pushing me until the last few weeks, but it's ultimately become a case of I win, or My world beating attackers can't score a goal between them so I draw 0-0. And I'm still at the start of the 4th season, I haven't even started to see my wonderkid regens break through yet. To be fair, I did do the one thing Arsenal need to do to win everything. I replaced the entire squad basically. Only Saka is still there.
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Nov 27, 2020 15:32
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sassassin posted:They say there's no such thing as a perfect player, but... Isn't Determination a junk stat?
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Nov 27, 2020 15:50
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Eric the Mauve posted:Isn't Determination a junk stat? Determination, Aggression, Bravery, Work Rate all 18 or higher or you're not getting anywhere near my team of referee worriers
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Nov 27, 2020 16:18
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Eric the Mauve posted:Isn't Determination a junk stat? Until a few years ago it wasn't important imo but then SI bowed to the popular myth and made it a bigger factor in both player development and in-game performance. It's good to have in team leaders because they will drag poor determination youngsters up (or down) quickly compared to other attributes, and as it's unweighted against CA/PA it's basically a free and very visible upgrade whether its effect is big or small. The other, more significant "free" attributes are hidden, so people don't care half as much.
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Nov 27, 2020 16:32
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Masonity posted:I should probably spend some time on tactics. Maybe when I decide on a proper, challenging save. At the moment I'm still playing my beta Arsenal save, but being a big Premier league team is too easy. Last season we went unbeaten in the league, hit 100 points and only conceded 7 league goals. I can count on United pushing me until the last few weeks, but it's ultimately become a case of I win, or My world beating attackers can't score a goal between them so I draw 0-0. And I'm still at the start of the 4th season, I haven't even started to see my wonderkid regens break through yet. The problem with a Big Team save is you can play the exact same way from the start until you get bored. Need to have promotions and over/underperformance to keep things interesting tactically, with teams responding to your changing reputation.
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Nov 27, 2020 16:41
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Eric the Mauve posted:Isn't Determination a junk stat? Even when it was a junk stat, it seemed like you could often use it as a proxy for professionalism because it was rare to have a player with high or low in one of those and not the other. People liked to do experiments of "I set professionalism to 1 and determination to 20 and the player was utter poo poo" but in the actual game no player has professionalism 1 and determination 20.
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Nov 27, 2020 16:51
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Playing out my league winning season (I think I still have three games to go before it's fully over) I ended up playing third place in the division above me (that I'll be going to) twice, once in a quarter final and once in a final. We lost 1-0 and 2-1. I don't think my attacking 4-3-3 DM tactic is going to work against better players. I need a re-think, before next season, but I'm hesitant to go 4-4-2 hoofball, especially having to play a tactic dance with whether I use that or my 4-3-3 DM against a team based on their form, league position, home or away, and expected tactic. It seems like a recipe for disaster. All in all I just don't think my players are good enough to compete highly in the Irish Premiership, and this next season will have to be for building for the year after (presuming I get a budget.)
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Nov 27, 2020 16:53
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Mrenda posted:Playing out my league winning season (I think I still have three games to go before it's fully over) I ended up playing third place in the division above me (that I'll be going to) twice, once in a quarter final and once in a final. We lost 1-0 and 2-1. I don't think my attacking 4-3-3 DM tactic is going to work against better players. I need a re-think, before next season, but I'm hesitant to go 4-4-2 hoofball, especially having to play a tactic dance with whether I use that or my 4-3-3 DM against a team based on their form, league position, home or away, and expected tactic. It seems like a recipe for disaster. All in all I just don't think my players are good enough to compete highly in the Irish Premiership, and this next season will have to be for building for the year after (presuming I get a budget.) 5-3-2 All the cool kids (with bad players) are doing it.
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Nov 27, 2020 17:33
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vyelkin posted:Even when it was a junk stat, it seemed like you could often use it as a proxy for professionalism because it was rare to have a player with high or low in one of those and not the other. People liked to do experiments of "I set professionalism to 1 and determination to 20 and the player was utter poo poo" but in the actual game no player has professionalism 1 and determination 20. https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/jr60h8/taking_player_development_to_the_next_level_an/ This was a pretty sick breakdown of how these work nowadays, for player development anyway.
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Nov 27, 2020 19:55
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KoldPT posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/footballmanagergames/comments/jr60h8/taking_player_development_to_the_next_level_an/ Consistency can change over time (there's literally a scout report line saying if a player needs to work on it) and it tends to be misleading when people do these soak tests on development via the AI, as many of the hidden attributes don't effect development but do indirectly effect selection by the AI (due to form or suspensions), and playing time is the biggest contributor to attribute growth. A human manager knows that his low pressure wonderkid might put in some bad performances early in his career and won't banish him to the u23s as a result. Right?
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Nov 27, 2020 21:07
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Where’s the fun in that? Perform or get the gently caress off my team. (I’d banish him to a lesser team on loan rather than the U23 squad)
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Nov 27, 2020 22:02
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Eric the Mauve posted:Where’s the fun in that? Perform or get the gently caress off my team. I bet you make your players train the day after a bad defeat as well.
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Nov 27, 2020 22:09
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Nah, I let them rest while watching video of them humiliating themselves for 12 straight hours.
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Nov 27, 2020 22:26
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Bad performances are nothing but an opportunity to fine the players for easy Work Rate increases.
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Nov 28, 2020 04:20
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 Finished my first season in the Eredivisie in a few FM releases in a relatively comfortable first place. Ajax is very strong, but beating them both times gave me what I needed to stay in first at the end. The squad was aggressively attacked by Liverpool, Real, PSG, Bayern, etc. at the end of the season, so I had to sell most of my stars like Boadu and resort to my old standby players - got Thiago Almada, Sandro Tonali (for cheap!), Adam Hlozek, Matías Arezo, Armel Bella-Kotchap. It seeems that with the changes to player interaction it's even easier for them to get unsettled! edit: not sure I like the new interface for interacting with the board though, it seems like a straight downgrade
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Nov 28, 2020 10:39
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My post-promotion transfer window I've only brought in two new players - a goalkeeper with 16 Free Kicks and a 27 year old who has the media asking if now is the time he finally fulfils his "potential". Both free, both minor upgrades at best. Where are all the agents pimping their "he would be one of the best players at the club" stars?!?
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Nov 28, 2020 11:46
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My life changed when I realized that I can't just throw a bottle at the team in general but, by not throwing a bottle during the overall team feedback, at every player individually. I wonder if that means I just have one or two crates of water and machine gun bottles at my players or if it's the same bottle and I sprint across the dressing room after each throw to pick it up before assaulting the next player that dared be a part of a 0-0 at halftime against Heerenveen. e: In my ongoing quest to dethrone Ajax with set pieces I have started to sign young center backs based on a Heading, Jumping Reach and height filter. 190cm at age 15-17 or they're of no use to me. I just sign them without waiting for scout reports if they're cheap enough, so I will soon have an army of abnormally tall teenagers.  There are more, although I stopped myself eventually to not tank my transfer rating completely. Most of them won't amount to anything, of course. But there is one that I actually scouted and paid a lot of money for who I suspect may score 10+ goals in a season for me eventually: 
Wizard Styles fucked around with this message at 14:50 on Nov 28, 2020 |
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Nov 28, 2020 13:00
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Sets up Tactics. First match team played exactly as I instructed. Me: oh no I am going to lose my life to this edition.
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Nov 29, 2020 01:38
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I have a good 16 year old midfielder who was flying in his development but some idiot in my u19s has played him up front for some matches when I wasn't paying attention and he's hit that familiarity threshold where the CA weightings change and boom, big red down arrows across the board. I can't remember if familiarity ever drops when they learn this young but hopefully it will as he's now a worse player with effectively less potential as a CB/MC/ST. Maybe if he was tall it'd pay off chucking him up front on special occasions but he's just an average midfielder.
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Nov 29, 2020 13:02
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I tyrannically micromanage every game the three actual prospects in my youth squad play, but I've had that happen to guys out on loan (AI managers don't give a poo poo about "Preferred Position" loan clauses) and it's annoying as hell.
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Nov 29, 2020 16:23
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I always thought the youth team stuff was handled at a level of abstraction where it wouldn’t care if your only three prospects were left backs or maybe even keepers, it would just develop them and play them as usual? I guess it’s good if it isn’t tbh
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Nov 29, 2020 17:39
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Your youth manager will play them to death (because the few actual prospects are usually the best players on the youth squad) and get them hosed up with recurring injuries if you don't intervene, in my experience.
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Nov 29, 2020 17:52
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Yeah, I always put the youth players I care about into the senior squad straight away so I can put them into mentoring groups but also to keep an eye on their injury risk.
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Nov 29, 2020 18:16
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Wizard Styles posted:Yeah, I always put the youth players I care about into the senior squad straight away so I can put them into mentoring groups but also to keep an eye on their injury risk. Full time training with the best coaches you have is ideal but sometimes they have great personalities which could go backwards in with your senior mercenaries (wonderkids will usually be Team Leaders within their youth squads and avoid negative gains). I think by default the game is set to ask you before every game who you want to lend the development sides, and you can control where they play from that screen. But this doesn't help if you don't pay attention. Johan Bakke (who turns out to be the son of the manager I replaced at Sogndal, ex-Leeds player Erik) is doomed to mediocrity as a result. Retraining all the promising left-footed midfielders into left-backs is good business though and I applaud my u19s manager for starting that process for me.
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Nov 29, 2020 18:35
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tldr: save corrupted, even the "clean" one before the issue becomes noticeable. RIP Norway career.
sassassin fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 29, 2020 22:53
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I was chuffed when I received FM2020 free on Epic, and then this thread hots up and it turns that that 20 is shite and 21 is much more promising. This isn't a dig at people in this thread, but part of me looks at last year's game and says "Why bloody bother"?
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Nov 30, 2020 03:16
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There really isn't much of a reason to play FM20 now, yeah. Free or not. Its match engine was the worst one they put out since I've been playing (17) by a distance. The current one is easily the best. The transfer market is better than it has been in the past as well now.sassassin posted:Full time training with the best coaches you have is ideal but sometimes they have great personalities which could go backwards in with your senior mercenaries (wonderkids will usually be Team Leaders within their youth squads and avoid negative gains). On that note:  My reserves manager quite enjoys a wide target man.
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Nov 30, 2020 13:58
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JustJeff88 posted:I was chuffed when I received FM2020 free on Epic, and then this thread hots up and it turns that that 20 is shite and 21 is much more promising. This isn't a dig at people in this thread, but part of me looks at last year's game and says "Why bloody bother"? The reason we used to play it is because it was crap but it was the only game in town. FM seriously needs some decent competition. It hasn't really had one since Ultimate Soccer Manager died.
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Nov 30, 2020 14:09
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Wizard Styles posted:On that note: With how many heading opportunities my IF-S was getting at the back post I can see the value.
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Nov 30, 2020 14:12
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 RIP Finlay, you tried to squat 700lbs with 8 strength and now you're crippled for life
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Nov 30, 2020 14:47
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Does FM21 model the pandemic at all? Like, previous FM games have had real-world things like Brexit, and the pandemic is a much larger impactor on the game of football than one island's dumb mistakes have been.
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Nov 30, 2020 14:49
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Drone posted:Does FM21 model the pandemic at all? Not really. They decided that people have enough pandemic in their lives without it being in their video game too so they didn't include it. They just put in the fixture and money impacts (i.e. later start to first season, English leagues are even more suicide squads than usual with 11 games in 20 days, player prices are tanked, teams have little cash to spend), but the fixtures get back on track season 2 and money slowly recovers back to normal
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Nov 30, 2020 14:51
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fm wouldn't be able to really do the economic impact correctly anyway its impossible to bankrupt a club and even if your in loads of debt someone buys you out of it eventually. Always been a weak area of fm the modelling of financial ruin of a football club.
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an inbox message informing you that your recently laid-off reserves assistant manager took his own life
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