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What's a good way to abuse Ahsoka/Captured TIE + Roark Garnet? So far the only thing I can come up with is sticking Black Market Slicer Tools on Ahsoka to maybe take advantage of her pilot ability along with PS12 Captured TIE.
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Panzeh posted:You can pretty easily build a 58-pt Kyle Dash and no-bomb Miranda. Norra is a good buddy for Dash too. Can even do the regen stuff too.
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Mar 27, 2017 06:21
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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:What's a good way to abuse Ahsoka/Captured TIE + Roark Garnet? So far the only thing I can come up with is sticking Black Market Slicer Tools on Ahsoka to maybe take advantage of her pilot ability along with PS12 Captured TIE. This is stupid, but could be fun Roark Garnet — HWK-290 19 Twin Laser Turret 6 Ship Total: 25 Ahsoka Tano — TIE Fighter 17 Intimidation 2 Black Market Slicer Tools 1 Captured TIE 1 Sabine's Masterpiece 1 Ship Total: 22 Gold Squadron Pilot — Y-Wing 18 Twin Laser Turret 6 R3-A2 2 BTL-A4 Y-Wing 0 Ship Total: 26 Biggs Darklighter — X-Wing R4-D6 Integrated Astromech
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Mar 27, 2017 09:27
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Raged posted:This is stupid, but could be fun I feel like if you're gonna use Roark and a captured tie for intimidation you're better off using Sabine for the free boost/barrel roll and making it easier to bump into people. Bonus points if you throw on an intel agent too, I guess.
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Mar 27, 2017 10:44
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I went 3-4 at Hoth with a dumb Hotcop Gunner Kylo RAC and Vader. Winning a drawing for one of the LE playmats in round 1 took some of the sting out of sucking so bad. I was 0-4 when I got to play against a list with Coran Horn who obligingly jousted me, and went on to win my last 3 against the potatoes who had sunk to the tables as low as me. The next day I overheard the guy I faced at the 4-2 table in the last round complaining that he didn't think ISYTDS actually works like it says on the card and also is further clarified in the FAQ, so his loss to me "didn't count." Whatever. I think he just didn't like Stunned Pilot on Dash. The guy running the Team Epic made it rain prize support for dumb little in-game stuff, and even though our swarm of B's failed to sink the opposing Raider, we got enough swag to not care. Plastic Biggs and extended art Omega Ace. Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:What's a good way to abuse Ahsoka/Captured TIE + Roark Garnet? So far the only thing I can come up with is sticking Black Market Slicer Tools on Ahsoka to maybe take advantage of her pilot ability along with PS12 Captured TIE. I mean maybe you'll have more luck than I did but I feel like the annoyance TIE is a trap. I ended up doing 1 damage over 3 games with BMST and went back to Vader-RAC for Hoth. The 50-50 is just too unreliable. I'd probably put Sabine and a bomb on it, but I feel like you get to the point where you're spending like 25 points on a TIE/ln with a gimmick that has a very easy hard counter (PS9 pilots). E: Clone Grampa Suppression tie seems to be the more solid option, IMO. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 11:57 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 11:44
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:
 I love justifications for losing.
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Mar 27, 2017 12:25
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
Mine all seem to involve calling myself an idiot.
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Mar 27, 2017 12:44
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Admiral Joeslop posted:
Yeah he was kvetching to a friend that he wasn't going to count it against his "personal record." LOL'ing that the kind of person who ends up playing his final match against another bad like me at the 2-4 table keeps meticulous track of his "personal record." My first match-up was into a weird list that was strangely capable of neutering the Kylo-Vader Cockpit Cracking Nonsense-- Kavil, Xizor, and a Contracted Scout with Draw Their Fire. I ended up putting ISYTD on the scout towards the end so that he'd eat blinded pilots to soak the damage at least. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 27, 2017 |
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Mar 27, 2017 12:56
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Jabba crew reveal article https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2017/3/27/jabba-the-hutt/ He's basically extra munitions for illicits. Costs 5, two crew slots, affects every ship in your squad
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Mar 27, 2017 15:17
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ConfusedUs posted:Jabba crew reveal article Space 420 smoke spice erry day. Before the reveal my Delvan Mud and I were speculating that it would be funny if he took up a team or cargo slot.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:22
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I think I found the error. It mentions dropping a Rigged Chute and then using PTL to SLAM away, but you can't SLAM as a free action, right? Edit: oh wait that's two errors! You can't PTL for a card action either!!
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Mar 27, 2017 15:33
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Some Numbers posted:I think I found the error. It mentions dropping a Rigged Chute and then using PTL to SLAM away, but you can't SLAM as a free action, right? It's just one: Burnout SLAM adds it to your action bar. But yeah you still can't PTL a SLAM because PTL gives you a free action.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:40
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My knee jerk reaction is that Jabba is only worth the points in epic.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:40
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I'm still not clear on when "you" means "you" and when it means "this ship" and the Jabba card isn't helping.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:42
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clayburn posted:My knee jerk reaction is that Jabba is only worth the points in epic. Mine too, because you basically have to have a party bus with no party dedicated to him, while still having enough points left for other good ships with illicit slots? I dunno. I haven't yet tried building a squad. You might get decent mileage out of double glitterstim on something.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:42
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Poopy Palpy posted:I'm still not clear on when "you" means "you" and when it means "this ship" and the Jabba card isn't helping. Yeah, shouldn't it be "a friendly ship"? Going by previous rulings, jabba can only affect the ship he is equipped to.
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Mar 27, 2017 15:44
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Yeah, double Dead Man's switch! Oh, wait...
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Mar 27, 2017 15:58
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Poopy Palpy posted:I'm still not clear on when "you" means "you" and when it means "this ship" and the Jabba card isn't helping. It's wrong. The card as written won't be able to affect anyone but the ship it's on since there's no definition for "you/your squad" outside of the ship carrying the upgrade. If they meant the meta "you", as in the player, then it should have been written to say all friendly ships. But yeah the card is useless until an errata and probably only a specific list, since Bossk + Dengar/Lancer is probably the only real mileage you get out of it. Equipping hot shots and fun little extras to a bunch of Zs and Scyks doesn't seem that great.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:10
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We probably should have seen this coming after the Palpatine nerf.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:13
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Design team definitely erred in the side of caution with a 35 point minimum investment compared to palp's 29, but if scum get a shuttle equivalent to the lambda or u-wing that could breathe some life into Jabba. I think he's got potential, two turns of glitterstim on extra munitions jumpmasters? Cool.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:24
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Chemmy posted:We probably should have seen this coming after the Palpatine nerf. It's great! This is the first one that is a "maybe" purchase, unlike the other epic ships. I don't know what their expectation for epic ships and "tournament need" is anyway. It takes up huge amounts of retail space, most physical stores only get a couple, and it really only benefits online retailers.
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Mar 27, 2017 16:33
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I'm imagining some ordnance and Scavenger Cranes. Like three Z's with Cluster, Chips and Crane. Sure it sucks but whatever man, Missiles all day!
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Mar 27, 2017 17:37
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ConfusedUs posted:It's a turn maneuver. It's red. It's a turn manoeuvre, it goes red, AND it still gives you an extra stress. Poopy Palpy posted:I'm still not clear on when "you" means "you" and when it means "this ship" and the Jabba card isn't helping. It always means 'this ship'. Jabba is badly written and doesn't work by RAW. The first bit works fine - when you (this ship) equip this, each illicit in your squad... is all fine. But the instructions on how to spend it only refer to 'your ship'. I'm super underhwelmed by Jabba.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:13
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Wouldn't be the first time they wrote a card that was immediately invalidated upon release, either just by RAW or an FAQ that came with it.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:21
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Does R3-A2 still only function at all basically by fiat?
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Mar 27, 2017 18:22
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Pac-Manioc Root posted:Does R3-A2 still only function at all basically by fiat? Nah they finally fixed it with the last FAQ. Shame it never came up in a tournament since the ship it was on only ever melted before it fired when I played against it in regionals season.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:27
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Admiral Joeslop posted:Wouldn't be the first time they wrote a card that was immediately invalidated upon release, either just by RAW or an FAQ that came with it. I'm expecting day 1 errata, sadly. I really wish they'd get proper proofreading done of these cards by experts.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:34
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Chill la Chill posted:Nah they finally fixed it with the last FAQ. Shame it never came up in a tournament since the ship it was on only ever melted before it fired when I played against it in regionals season. I ran up against it two or three times at Regional or higher events when it was in the "technically doesn't work" camp, but all of those guys were too nice for me to be dick enough to argue their list fundamentally doesn't work RAW despite the obvious intention.
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Mar 27, 2017 18:57
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ConfusedUs posted:I ran up against it two or three times at Regional or higher events when it was in the "technically doesn't work" camp, but all of those guys were too nice for me to be dick enough to argue their list fundamentally doesn't work RAW despite the obvious intention. I just wanted to make the judge call just so someone inevitably writes about it online and they actually get attention to fix it. I've allowed people to play it "as intended" for many tournaments, just not higher level ones because it never came up.  I just don't like "as intended" arguments since games are closed systems with no real-world complications or context, and I'm not a mind reader.
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Mar 27, 2017 19:05
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thespaceinvader posted:I'm expecting day 1 errata, sadly. Hire me FFG.
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Mar 27, 2017 19:11
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What they need is a lexicon from which they pull the text for every card. Especially for timing issues. That way everything that acts one way has the exact same wording as everything ELSE that acts that way. Think of the minute difference between the new Falcon title and Inertial Dampeners. Due to that minute difference once works with Kanan, and the other doesn't. But they're so similar that even with a FAQ you still have people playing it incorrectly.
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Mar 27, 2017 19:22
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Chill la Chill posted:I just don't like "as intended" arguments since games are closed systems with no real-world complications or context, and I'm not a mind reader. I agree. I mentioned here before that a dude was telling me that he thinks guessing zero evades with C-3PO was abusive, and was against the intention of the upgrade. Uhh, dude, when the card was printed there was only the Millennium Falcon and the HWK-290 that could equip it. If that was a concern, it would have been addressed already in the 3 years since and in the reprinting of the card for the prize kit. For the specific example of R3-A2 I'd give more leeway to the rules as intended argument, because with the timing chart and no other FAQ update the card does literally nothing under any circumstances. Just like Lone Wolf as first printed did literally nothing under any circumstance (said "if there are no friendly ships at R1/2" rather than no OTHER friendly ships, because you always count yourself) Rolling back to the way it used to work one FAQ ago when the new FAQ makes it literally impossible to use under any circumstances seems like a reasonable interpretation of the judge
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Mar 27, 2017 19:42
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canyoneer posted:I agree. I mentioned here before that a dude was telling me that he thinks guessing zero evades with C-3PO was abusive, and was against the intention of the upgrade. What could be more c-3po than shrieking that you're doomed, only to survive despite your predictions?
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Mar 27, 2017 20:34
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Besides Jabba, you know what's disappointing about the C-ROC? No new illicit upgrades. You would figure there would be a new one with an epic ship.
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Mar 28, 2017 00:00
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Raged posted:Besides Jabba, you know what's disappointing about the C-ROC? No new illicit upgrades. You would figure there would be a new one with an epic ship.  Jabba would be carrying some sweet drugs on that boat. I don't know what flavor of drugs is supposed to correspond to the Star Wars fantasy drugs but tgeres gotta be something better than glitterstim that gives you focus/target lock/evade results.
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Mar 28, 2017 00:05
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Chill la Chill posted:
An illicit that says "You may ignore all stress and range limits for ability and upgrade purposes" and Dengaroo is back, baby
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Mar 28, 2017 00:13
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Raged posted:Besides Jabba, you know what's disappointing about the C-ROC? No new illicit upgrades. You would figure there would be a new one with an epic ship. Ya you'd think if they weren't going to put in a new illicit they'd pack it with a couple of glitterstims at least.
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Mar 28, 2017 00:15
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canyoneer posted:An illicit that says "You may ignore all stress and range limits for ability and upgrade purposes" and Dengaroo is back, baby That would be worth it for the tears alone.
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Mar 28, 2017 00:34
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I, too, would love unlimited range torpedoes and hotshot blasters.
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5-6 Z-95s chucking Proton Rockets across the map turn 1 would be pretty hilarious, granted.
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