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Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.
I personally approve of the bird pictures so :shrug:

The new CG sounds promising with the lines about AI and weaponry involved with it.

quote:

The Federation has launched an initiative to develop autonomous military hardware with which to fight the Thargoids.

Federal Shadow President Felicia Winters shed further light on the initiative, which has been christened the Bulwark Project:

As the Thargoids' aggression escalates, it's essential that we find ways to minimise casualties while continuing to protect ourselves. Aegis is doing commendable work, but it needn't be our only line of defence.
Imperial commentators have criticised the initiative, however, drawing attention to long-standing conventions against the development of artificial intelligence. Shadow President Winters was quick to dismiss such concerns, saying:

The purpose of the Bulwark Project is to investigate alternative defence strategies, not to develop machine intelligence.
The operation has received financial support from the Momoirent Central and Co, which has placed an open order for various commodities for use in the campaign.

Looking forward to the eventual AI rebellion after the Thargoids are finally defeated.

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xoFcitcrA
Feb 16, 2010

took the bread and the lamb spread
Lipstick Apathy

iospace posted:

Man your posting has gone to the birds :dadjoke:

Hobold
Jan 10, 2012


I love my Cutlass
I love big stompy mechs
I love my HOTAS
I love to salvage wrecks
I love Star Citizen, and all it's craziness
GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA, GOONDEYADA
College Slice

:bird:
:birddrugs:
:smugbird:

Is the thread title actually correct? AI gets most of the payout for multi? Why?

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Rynoto posted:

Looking forward to the eventual AI rebellion after the Thargoids are finally defeated.

I'm looking forward to the AI rebelling at the worst possible moment before the Thargoids are defeated

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde

DrNutt posted:

Okay. The adv discovery scanner is the 1.5 mil one so I was hoping it would be a way to grind that up more quickly than missions. Might as well get both then because the surface scanner is only like 2-300,000 thousand iirc.

Take a cheap (c rated) cobra to a bounty hunting cg where there is a low to high res (or even better enter any low to high res if there is no cg) and start kill stealing pirates from the police. Standard warnings apply : attack only pirates that were already attacked by the police and scan them till you read wanted on their read out before opening fire.

Inspector Hound
Jul 14, 2003

Hobold posted:

:bird:
:birddrugs:
:smugbird:

Is the thread title actually correct? AI gets most of the payout for multi? Why?

They've been in since beta

xoFcitcrA
Feb 16, 2010

took the bread and the lamb spread
Lipstick Apathy

limaCAT posted:

Take a cheap (c rated) cobra to a bounty hunting cg where there is a low to high res (or even better enter any low to high res if there is no cg) and start kill stealing pirates from the police. Standard warnings apply : attack only pirates that were already attacked by the police and scan them till you read wanted on their read out before opening fire.

This. And jump to Ceos if you want enough fed rank to get back home. Plus, having rep with Sirius Corp helps you later on.

Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.

Libluini posted:

I'm looking forward to the AI rebelling at the worst possible moment before the Thargoids are defeated

There aren't any actual global rewards listed otherwise it would have been fun to sensor bomb the station for the greater good :patriot:

Sedisp
Jun 20, 2012


So thinking about loving around with a PPA Vulture now that my space madness quest is over. Should I just use beams on the other hardpoint or would that run too hot?

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011
So what is with the random permits that you unlock while getting fed ranks? As far as I can tell there isn't anything special about them except a discount on an eagle (whoopie doo).

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

jubjub64 posted:

So what is with the random permits that you unlock while getting fed ranks? As far as I can tell there isn't anything special about them except a discount on an eagle (whoopie doo).

Some of the systems are cool to go to. Sol is cool, for example.

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Gort posted:

Some of the systems are cool to go to. Sol is cool, for example.

No, I get why Sol is cool but why PLX 695, Ross 128, Exbeur or Hors? As far as I can tell there isn't anything there that is worth going out of my way for. You'd think that they would put these systems under a permit lock for some cool reason gameplay-wise but who am I kidding right?

Blind Rasputin
Nov 25, 2002

Farewell, good Hunter. May you find your worth in the waking world.

Speaking of, what is the reason for unlocking Sirius?

The new Isinona video is great, just so fun. He really makes this game seem better than it has any right to be.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea

jubjub64 posted:

No, I get why Sol is cool but why PLX 695, Ross 128, Exbeur or Hors? As far as I can tell there isn't anything there that is worth going out of my way for. You'd think that they would put these systems under a permit lock for some cool reason gameplay-wise but who am I kidding right?

Oh, fully agreed on that. It's the same with the Imperial systems you unlock. There's basically nothing noteworthy about any of the unlockable systems except Sol (for the sightseeing) and Shinrarta Dezhra (since it has all the equipment and ships buyable in one station, which is a huge deal).

It's a bit like the military rank system in general - you do a bunch of trash missions to get the ability to do a rank-up mission... which is just the same kind of trash mission as all the others. The military rank-up missions are a fantastic opportunity to put some interesting missions in the game that everyone would do sooner or later, but instead they're just nothing.

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Gort posted:

Oh, fully agreed on that. It's the same with the Imperial systems you unlock. There's basically nothing noteworthy about any of the unlockable systems except Sol (for the sightseeing) and Shinrarta Dezhra (since it has all the equipment and ships buyable in one station, which is a huge deal).

It's a bit like the military rank system in general - you do a bunch of trash missions to get the ability to do a rank-up mission... which is just the same kind of trash mission as all the others. The military rank-up missions are a fantastic opportunity to put some interesting missions in the game that everyone would do sooner or later, but instead they're just nothing.

Sometimes the game feels like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNFy49R08Ak

Cardboard cutouts hinting at cool things with no dimension behind them. But I am excited to see where the thargoid invasion takes the game. It FEELS like something cool is about to happen. I just hope I don't get too close and the cutout falls over.

Edit: Just so I say something positive about the game too. I just got a firgher bay and it is awesome. I love launching and docking in it. Plus it melts shields so quickly. Its super cool and makes me want to play the game more and more.

jubjub64 fucked around with this message at 21:13 on Feb 16, 2018

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Blind Rasputin posted:

Speaking of, what is the reason for unlocking Sirius?

The new Isinona video is great, just so fun. He really makes this game seem better than it has any right to be.

Sirius is an engineer system isn't it?

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Blind Rasputin posted:

The new Isinona video is great, just so fun. He really makes this game seem better than it has any right to be.

This is because he roleplays and imo more people should try it

Einbauschrank
Nov 5, 2009

Blind Rasputin posted:

Speaking of, what is the reason for unlocking Sirius?

The new Isinona video is great, just so fun. He really makes this game seem better than it has any right to be.

He's got the ability get tension and drama into trivial activities by making everything harder for himself. He reminds me of the "Better Drink my own piss" guy.

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



i don’t tend to make videogames harder for myself don’t know why you’re thinking of me

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Einbauschrank posted:

He's got the ability get tension and drama into trivial activities by making everything harder for himself. He reminds me of the "Better Drink my own piss" guy.

His ability to fly without flight assist on is amazing. I tried once and it felt like controlling drunk Niko in GTA4. "Yellow caaaaaar"

Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

DrNutt posted:

His ability to fly without flight assist on is amazing. I tried once and it felt like controlling drunk Niko in GTA4. "Yellow caaaaaar"

I'm having the flight assist on a toggle, because I'm so poo poo at aiming, even with gimbals I can only hit someone reliably by flying really, really fast away and then turning my ship backwards to blast them when they try to follow me

Drake_263
Mar 31, 2010

Blind Rasputin posted:

Speaking of, what is the reason for unlocking Sirius?

The new Isinona video is great, just so fun. He really makes this game seem better than it has any right to be.

One of Engineer NPCs, Marco Qwent, has a base in Sirius. Qwent himself is decidedly mediocre, but he's the dude who gets you an introduction to Professor Palin, literally the only Engineer in the game with access to Grade 5 thruster modifications.

Toxic Fart Syndrome
Jul 2, 2006

*hits A-THREAD-5*

Only 3.6 Roentgoons per hour ... not great, not terrible.




...the meter only goes to 3.6...

Pork Pro
What makes Isinona fun is two things for me: one he explains the in-universe lore which gives his activities a context beyond "this dude is actually just kind of treading water," and the lack of voiceover means everyone reads his narrative in their own headvoice, putting the viewer into the cockpit.

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy
Last time I changed my hud color settings it made everything look like crap.

I've seen some hud settings that look fantastic.

What are some presets that look fantastic?

Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.
A thread on the forums with tons of presets people have made

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
"We've lost your heat signature Captain, do you need assistance?"

Nope just people smuggling, thank you though nice Russian lady!

I don't know when they put in so much air command poo poo but I love it

TopHatGenius
Oct 3, 2008

something feels
different

Hot Rope Guy

Wow. This is great. Thanks!

After reading the thread I went for VY Canis Majoris. Holy gently caress this star is beyond huge. I made the mistake of getting super close to it and now 5 minutes + I've been accelerating away from it and my Fuel Scoop is still on.

Voyeur
Dec 5, 2000
I like to watch.

jubjub64 posted:

No, I get why Sol is cool but why PLX 695, Ross 128, Exbeur or Hors? As far as I can tell there isn't anything there that is worth going out of my way for. You'd think that they would put these systems under a permit lock for some cool reason gameplay-wise but who am I kidding right?

Some of them are from previous Elite games; eg Ross 128 is a massive, top security penal colony that you needed to get a permit for, Facece is the home system of the Imperial Navy, Eta Cassiopeiae is home to Fed Navy, etc. Others, I got no idea.

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

Sedisp posted:

So thinking about loving around with a PPA Vulture now that my space madness quest is over. Should I just use beams on the other hardpoint or would that run too hot?

Efficient mod the beams and they'll work well, but without that they're too power-hungry and hot to be very practical on a Vulture with other power-hungry weapons. Same goes for the PAs.

But once efficient modded (and perhaps with a mild overcharge on the powerplant) you get a lot more options on what will work :)

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor
Just picked this up during the Steam Sale. Worked through the first couple of tutorials. gently caress I think I need a HOTAS, keyboard bindings feel off and I wanna run this with my Vive at some point...

Behotti
Apr 30, 2008
Fun Shoe

Gearhead posted:

Just picked this up during the Steam Sale. Worked through the first couple of tutorials. gently caress I think I need a HOTAS, keyboard bindings feel off and I wanna run this with my Vive at some point...

I picked up the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick from Amazon for like 35bux because I didn't know how into this game I would be. So far it has been more than serviceable. I've setup my own bindings for the ones that didn't pre-fill and it has been a dream compared to trying to use the mouse/keyboard combo.

Bohemian Nights
Jul 14, 2006

When I wake up,
I look into the mirror
I can see a clearer, vision
I should start living today
Clapping Larry

Gearhead posted:

Just picked this up during the Steam Sale. Worked through the first couple of tutorials. gently caress I think I need a HOTAS, keyboard bindings feel off and I wanna run this with my Vive at some point...

I'm playing this with the rift, and while it would probably be better with a full HOTAS setup, it works just fine with my lovely sidewinder pro and keyboard. WASD+ the nearby keys should cover most of the non-joystick movements and keybinds- of course that's assuming you can manage to handle it while blind, which shouldn't be a problem for anyone who touch types, which I would assume mostly includes every goon there ever was, is, or will be

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

Behotti posted:

I picked up the Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X Flight Stick from Amazon for like 35bux because I didn't know how into this game I would be. So far it has been more than serviceable. I've setup my own bindings for the ones that didn't pre-fill and it has been a dream compared to trying to use the mouse/keyboard combo.

Yeah, the mouse feels suuuuper awkward.

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Gearhead posted:

Just picked this up during the Steam Sale. Worked through the first couple of tutorials. gently caress I think I need a HOTAS, keyboard bindings feel off and I wanna run this with my Vive at some point...

I have a mostly working t16000m with thruster if you want to try and fix it. The only thing wrong is that the twist on the stick isn't working. I bought a X52 so I don't need it anymore.

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

jubjub64 posted:

I have a mostly working t16000m with thruster if you want to try and fix it. The only thing wrong is that the twist on the stick isn't working. I bought a X52 so I don't need it anymore.

I'm actually eyeing an X52 myself. A friend of mine who is BIG into sims is trying to talk me into an X56, but I'm not quite ready for that step yet.

jubjub64
Feb 17, 2011

Gearhead posted:

I'm actually eyeing an X52 myself. A friend of mine who is BIG into sims is trying to talk me into an X56, but I'm not quite ready for that step yet.

I really like the X52, the only thing I wish it had was better controls on the thrust.

Mimesweeper
Mar 11, 2009

Smellrose

Gearhead posted:

Yeah, the mouse feels suuuuper awkward.

The default keyboard/mouse controls are awkward as hell, if you mess with them they're quite nice.

I'd tell you what I did but it's been so long since I played I can't remember for sure. Mainly getting all of your thrusters on and within easy reach of WASD, throttle on the mousewheel with 25% increments and I think I put yaw on the keyboard, roll on the mouse X and pitch on the mouse Y with auto return to center enabled. Also +50%/-50%/0% throttle binds wherever they feel right.

I think I had W forward thrust, S reverse, A left, D right, R up, F, down, Q yaw left, E yaw right, Z to toggle flight assist, X throttle 0%, and +50/-50 on the two thumb buttons on the side of my mouse. Once you learn to mainly fly with the thrusters and abuse flight assist toggling it all feels comfortable.

Some people prefer having yaw on the mouse and roll on the keyboard, so try that too.

Mimesweeper fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 17, 2018

Gearhead
Feb 13, 2007
The Metroid of Humor

Mimesweeper posted:

Some people prefer having yaw on the mouse and roll on the keyboard, so try that too.

That's what I did to start.

Trustworthy
Dec 28, 2004

with catte-like thread
upon our prey we steal
And so, brothers and sisters, we come to my yearly sermon... For those of you in the congregation who have, in your heart of hearts, transcended your base desires for desks full of chunky peripherals, I beseech thee! Hear these Holy Words of Light, and hold them dear within thy breast. And the Words are: "You know, with the right binds and a little practice, Elite works pretty spectacularly with an XBox controller."

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Tippis
Mar 21, 2008

It's yet another day in the wasteland.

Elite works pretty spectacularly with any kind of control peripheral you care to plug in.

Just not out of the box.

The sheer amount of binds and alternatives and the easy with which you can bind anything to anything means that you can always make something work for you. You just have to figure out how to run things in a way that feels natural to you.

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