More shit that pisses you off: What does that say about the quality of your emails?

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Sheep: Jul 24, 2003

Thanatosian posted:

Google and Microsoft really need to get on inventing email 2.0.

Just what I need, Email 2.0 where everything requires a loving monthly subscription.

Want to send and receive basic email? Monthly subscription.
Want to use TLS? That's extra!
Want built-in virus scanning? That's a per-user subscription fee as well!
Want to use DMARC records? Open up the wallet because that requires subscription to a substantially more expensive tier!
Want to use S/MIME? That's extra!
Want to use DKIM? Have we got a deal for you!
Want to opt out of data collection whereby we scan all your emails so we can send targeted ads to you? That requires subscription to our enterprise plan!

# ? Feb 24, 2017 18:59

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:21

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

I want an MTA that doesn't require a billion config files or supporting daemons or other bits and bobs you have to configure (like DNS records).

Like apache. Can we have something that you install, set a couple options, and it fires up and is secure enough to put on the public internet and be a good neighbor to everyone else?

# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:04

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

Sheep posted:

Just what I need, Email 2.0 where everything requires a loving monthly subscription.

Want to send and receive basic email? Monthly subscription.
Want to use TLS? That's extra!
Want built-in virus scanning? That's a per-user subscription fee as well!
Want to use DMARC records? Open up the wallet because that requires subscription to a substantially more expensive tier!
Want to use S/MIME? That's extra!
Want to use DKIM? Have we got a deal for you!
Want to opt out of data collection whereby we scan all your emails so we can send targeted ads to you? That requires subscription to our enterprise plan!

Are you talking about Google Apps? Because Office 365 has all of those built in.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:12

Proteus Jones: Feb 28, 2013

anthonypants posted:

Are you talking about Google Apps? Because Office 365 has all of those built in.

But it's a ~~thing you have to pay an annual license fee for,~~ subscription!

# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:14

Sheep: Jul 24, 2003

anthonypants posted:

Are you talking about Google Apps? Because Office 365 has all of those built in.

Sheep posted:

Just what I need, Email 2.0

It's okay, you can get the whole bundle in a season pass.

I was joking about the parcelizing and subscription-based monetization of various bits and pieces of stuff that in the past has typically been part of the package deal, for example operating systems and Office in Microsoft's case.

Sheep fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Feb 24, 2017

# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:54

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

Sheep posted:

I was joking about how they would take the opportunity to build a new email system (Email 2.0) from the ground up using a bunch of subscription/add-on models. Surely it didn't fly over your head considering you're familiar with O365 and the fact that Microsoft is pushing hard for subscriptions on things like operating systems and Office now whereas in the past these were often one-off costs (especially for smaller businesses)?

Ah well, you can get the entire bundle in the season pass if you want

So you want an "Email 2.0" product which necessitates garbage-tier hacks like S/MIME, and which doesn't enforce TLS as mandatory? That's even more disgusting.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 19:59

Sheep: Jul 24, 2003

anthonypants posted:

So you want an "Email 2.0" product which necessitates garbage-tier hacks like S/MIME, and which doesn't enforce TLS as mandatory? That's even more disgusting.

Nothing of what I posted in any way equates to "what I want" and I am genuinely confused as to how you'd read it as such.

It's okay though, I think we've all been drinking since the Cloudflare announcement.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 20:03

anthonypants: May 6, 2007; by Nyc_Tattoo; Dinosaur Gum

Sheep posted:

Nothing of what I posted in any way equates to "what I want" and I am genuinely confused as to how you'd read it as such.

It's okay though, I think we've all been drinking since the Cloudflare announcement.

Oh, I should've said "need" instead of "want". My bad.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 20:15

The Fool: Oct 16, 2003

The Fool posted:

Big remodel of the board room has been in planning for nearly 6 months. The contractors were scheduled to come next Monday to start the work.

Except the board chairman threw a fit about not being able to hold committee meetings in the board room during the two weeks the construction was scheduled and forced us to push the whole project back another month.

Mind you, these are small 5-person groups, most of whom would be attending by phone, and we have a half-dozen other rooms that would have worked for them.

To add on to this, the projector died yesterday, and they are going to have to use one of our janky portables until the remodel is done.

# ? Feb 24, 2017 22:22

unruly: May 12, 2002; YES!!!

I'm not 100% if it fits, but IT billing sucks. Working for an MSP is like 30% just juggling hours around so you don't get hosed out of your 40+. God I miss jobs where all I have to do is come to work, clock in and clock out.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 03:47

The Fool: Oct 16, 2003

unruly posted:

I'm not 100% if it fits, but IT billing sucks. Working for an MSP is like 30% just juggling hours around so you don't get hosed out of your 40+. God I miss jobs where all I have to do is come to work, clock in and clock out.

I don't even clock in or out, I just do work and mark 80 hours every pay period.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 03:59

Maigius: Jun 29, 2013

I really wish we could stick to our rules about not deploying anything on Fridays or after 2PM. Last week I deployed something (relatively urgent) at around 1:30 PM, mostly because a different group couldn't make one stupid little graphic. This morning, I asked the PM to talk down one of the managers from having me deploy an "urgent" change that wouldn't be needed until April. :psyduck:

The cherry on the sundae is that I had to deploy a different type of thing at 4:15 PM today, breaking both of the rules. At least it will actually be needed over the weekend. If I am asked to deploy something next Friday, I think I will scream.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 05:47

devmd01: Mar 7, 2006; Elektronik
Supersonik

poo poo that no longer pisses me off: my idiot boss, because I have a new one on Monday! :toot:

# ? Feb 25, 2017 11:33

vanity slug: Jul 20, 2010

Trigger warning: Buffalo NAS

https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/334-extensive-breach-at-intl-airport

# ? Feb 25, 2017 13:32

unruly: May 12, 2002; YES!!!

Jeoh posted:

Trigger warning: Buffalo NAS

https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/334-extensive-breach-at-intl-airport

[screams internally]

I've seen stuff like this. Not as bad as that, but restricted resources being easily available to people who are capable of clicking a couple of buttons on a toolbar.

# ? Feb 25, 2017 18:32

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Jeoh posted:

Trigger warning: Buffalo NAS

https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/334-extensive-breach-at-intl-airport

ratbert90 posted:

Jet fuel can't melt Buffalo Nas'

# ? Feb 26, 2017 02:20

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

unruly posted:

[screams internally]

I've seen stuff like this. Not as bad as that, but restricted resources being easily available to people who are capable of clicking a couple of buttons on a toolbar.

Yeah, at work they have a major file store available on the guest WiFi. I have yet to tell them as I am not strictly supposed to have access to the guest WiFi. It is sort of an open secret, I guess.

# ? Feb 26, 2017 02:45

unruly: May 12, 2002; YES!!!

Samizdata posted:

Yeah, at work they have a major file store available on the guest WiFi. I have yet to tell them as I am not strictly supposed to have access to the guest WiFi. It is sort of an open secret, I guess.

I have a client who was given access to an office building's vending wifi (one used for processing credit card transactions from vending machines, PoS, etc). Yet they would refuse to unblock a URL from their content filter.

:cry:

# ? Feb 26, 2017 04:58

Ham Equity: Apr 16, 2013; The first thing we do, let's kill all the cars.; Grimey Drawer

Samizdata posted:

Yeah, at work they have a major file store available on the guest WiFi. I have yet to tell them as I am not strictly supposed to have access to the guest WiFi. It is sort of an open secret, I guess.

Isn't the whole point of guest wifi that pretty much anyone can have access...?

# ? Feb 26, 2017 05:17

Agrikk: Oct 17, 2003; Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

mllaneza posted:

Thank god we can close tickets without positive confirmation. "If I don't hear from you by Friday I'll assume we really fixed your poo poo, have a great weekend."

Auto resolvers own. Here, if a case is pending customer action for seven days it auto closes. It's reopenable by the customer (usually with a "whoops! Sorry.") but it sure filters out a lot of chaff.

# ? Feb 26, 2017 05:26

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

unruly posted:

I have a client who was given access to an office building's vending wifi (one used for processing credit card transactions from vending machines, PoS, etc). Yet they would refuse to unblock a URL from their content filter.

Right right. Really all I use it for is Telegram messaging and looking stuff up (all good stuff) from my tablet. Well, that and boring crap like personal calendar syncs.

Thanatosian posted:

Isn't the whole point of guest wifi that pretty much anyone can have access...?

Not where I work at least. You need a password. It's not a good one, and they aren't really careful with it (which is how I found it out, while waiting weeks for access.)

# ? Feb 26, 2017 05:36

Samizdata: May 14, 2007

Upon a bit more shitposting elsewhere, I thought I should clarify. Really, as far as I can tell, the distinction at work is that corporate LAN resources (or so I thought up until seeing the file dump) are unavailable from the guest access.

# ? Feb 26, 2017 05:54

Che Delilas: Nov 23, 2009; FREE TIBET WEED

Thanks Ants posted:

You should keep the cable safe, ready to swap into the PC of a co-worker as a hilarious test.

I just want you to know that at least one person appreciated your callback to one of the classics.

# ? Feb 26, 2017 11:26

Corsair Pool Boy: Dec 17, 2004; College Slice

Agrikk posted:

Auto resolvers own. Here, if a case is pending customer action for seven days it auto closes. It's reopenable by the customer (usually with a "whoops! Sorry.") but it sure filters out a lot of chaff.

At my place, it's 3 attempts to contact or follow up, no more than once a day. Usually followed by indignant users because we didn't fix it. Fuckers. You opened the ticket on monday, ignored calls and emails tues, wed, and thur, then get mad when you get the closure email Friday that says "no return contact from user".

# ? Feb 26, 2017 13:07

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

Che Delilas posted:

I just want you to know that at least one person appreciated your callback to one of the classics.

I was waiting for the follow-up dog pile to complete it.

# ? Feb 26, 2017 16:41

Agrikk: Oct 17, 2003; Take care with that! We have not fully ascertained its function, and the ticking is accelerating.

The Fool posted:

I don't even clock in or out ~~I just do work and mark 80 hours every pay period.~~

Ftfy

# ? Feb 26, 2017 19:37

Walked: Apr 14, 2003

Just sent my resignation effective immediately. Feels good man.

Not my style; but I'm sick of this lovely poo poo and between consulting on the side, and multiple offers on the table, I'm not feeling the need to stick out the typical two weeks for people who act like everyone they work with is the enemy. Ain't got time for that stress.

:unsmith:

# ? Feb 27, 2017 01:34

Volmarias: Dec 31, 2002; EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Che Delilas posted:

I just want you to know that at least one person appreciated your callback to one of the classics.

I was just going to hope that unfortunate piece of posting history silently went away.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 03:29

GreenBuckanneer: Sep 15, 2007

Jeoh posted:

Trigger warning: Buffalo NAS

https://mackeeper.com/blog/post/334-extensive-breach-at-intl-airport

Trigger Warning: Mackeeper :froggonk:

# ? Feb 27, 2017 05:33

Crowley: Mar 13, 2003

Today I managed to piss off a vendor.

Apparently it's bad form to insist on following the law and refusing to "just install" their AD-scraping service on a domain controller. If that wasn't bad enough the same service would be sending the scraped names, usernames, group memberships, e-mails, phone numbers, and cellphone numbers to the vendor via FTP. All to help implement a nice-but-by-no-means-vital service. At the bare minimum we'd be setting up a separate server for the service, requiring an FTPS connection, and doing not a loving thing until they sign a vendor contract ("Databehandleraftale") ensuring they're legally obliged to implement the national security standards regarding personal data.

I'm suggesting they use our handy ADFS instead, but that's not what they're used to, so now we're the bad guys.
I won't lose any sleep over that.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 15:15

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

11 < 7? Ooookay

# ? Feb 27, 2017 15:42

mewse: May 2, 2006

Bob Morales posted:

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

11 < 7? Ooookay

They probably read one character for the version number and think you're running MSIE 1

# ? Feb 27, 2017 15:50

xzzy: Mar 5, 2009

Or they have an array of accepted versions and stopped adding anything after 10.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 15:54

FlapYoJacks: Feb 12, 2009

Bob Morales posted:

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

11 < 7? Ooookay

New sage works with IE11 at my work place. :confused:

# ? Feb 27, 2017 15:55

carry on then: Jul 10, 2010; by VideoGames
(and can't post for 10 years!)

Bob Morales posted:

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

11 < 7? Ooookay

Ahaha what is that icon from, IE 4?

# ? Feb 27, 2017 16:04

RFC2324: Jun 7, 2012; http 418

xzzy posted:

Or they have an array of accepted versions and stopped adding anything after 10.

This is what I normally see with these things.

User Agent String editors are useful tho!

# ? Feb 27, 2017 16:12

A Pinball Wizard: Mar 23, 2005; I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands; College Slice

Bob Morales posted:

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

Didn't look at screenshot, still agreed

# ? Feb 27, 2017 16:17

Bob Morales: Aug 18, 2006; ~~Just wear the fucking mask, Bob~~

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

carry on then posted:

Ahaha what is that icon from, IE 4?

# ? Feb 27, 2017 16:27

Paladine_PSoT: Jan 2, 2010; If you have a problem Yo, I'll solve it

Day 1 of being the expert on call for a cryptography system I don't understand nor do I have any background in.

Bring it on.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 19:46

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 12:21

DigitalMocking: Jun 8, 2010; Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
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Bob Morales posted:

Suck a fat dick, ACT!/Sage

11 < 7? Ooookay

Triggered.

# ? Feb 27, 2017 19:49

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